I refuse to pay full price for any game with less than 10 hours of gameplay.

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#1 Lord_Tik
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Paying $60 for a game that I can beat in a weekend sounds like a waste of money to me. I am sure I'm not the only one that belives that with the "next gen" prices we would get next gen graphics, sound, and most importantly...gameplay. It was bad enough to pay $50 for a game that ended in under 10 hours; let alone $60.

Look at Stranglehold with 6-8 hours of gameplay. What are we paying for? Sure it looks good and game is fun to play, but it's over before you can really get into it. To me, it's simple. If game developers want me to pay full price for a game, then they better give me more than 10 hours of gameplay.

Some people are going to argue that multiplayer can make a game fun long after the singleplayer story. Multiplayer can be a fun diversion, but the majority of players I believe would still rather have a solid single campaign. Then go online and play with their friends. What if the Halo singleplayer games were only 6-8 hours long? Would it still have the same appeal as it does today? I don't know.

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#2 ELJUDEZ
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Thanks for letting me know.
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#3 Mariofreak1216
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Yea, your argument is meaningless to me, I actually didn't beat halo 2s single player campaign until last week. Even though I have owned it since it came out, and played it for over 1000 hours.
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#4 Mariofreak1216
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Even though I agree with your argument if multiplayer sucks and single player is all it has.
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#5 warz989
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its no secret 95% of the 360 games out there are not worth 60 $

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#7 Lord_Tik
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its no secret 95% of the 360 games out there are not worth 60 $

warz989

Sad but true. The only 360 games I bought at full price were Oblivion and Forze. Both games have well overa 100 hours of gameplay.

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#8 Radiozo
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Well dont buy them at full price then.
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#9 zael99
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Wait until the price goes down... you don't have to buy them when they come out,
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#10 Scarface_tm431
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That;s why most the time I try to just rent now
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#11 dubya05
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If you're looking to get more out of your games, try going for all of the achievements in a game.. That usually adds one or two extra play throughs onto the game. If you don't like the sounds of that, then I guess don't buy them at full price... By used, wait, or just rent them.
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#12 destinhpark
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If I ever feel a game is too short, I just trade it in and get another. Don't freak out.
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#13 SecretWasianMan
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I can understand where you're coming from, but "back in the day" games were no more than 30 minutes to an hour long (except for RPGs). I remember paying $40 for Streets of Rage 2 for my Genesis and I payed $50 for MGS1 (if you know what you're doing the game is about 3 hours long). I don't regret ANY of those purchases. As long as I feel as if I get my money's worth. Esspecially, Stranglehold... that game was worth every penny. *sigh*.... I'm gonna go play Stranglehold now.....
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#14 gander448
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i agree but i include mp in that measure. so games like gears i got a lot of mp out of (at least in the beginning) Thats why the only games i have bought for 360 for the full 60 is gears of war and madden 08
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#15 SizeMatterzz
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then get gamefly, gottaplay, or gamerang.
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#16 190586385885857957282413308806
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If you're looking to get more out of your games, try going for all of the achievements in a game.. That usually adds one or two extra play throughs onto the game. If you don't like the sounds of that, then I guess don't buy them at full price... By used, wait, or just rent them.dubya05

exactly... try playing Stranglehold on hard boiled after the first playthrough... i bet that 6 hours gets a lot longer because of the difficulty

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#17 spazzx625
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$60 for a 10 hour game comes out to $6/hour...Which is a better deal than going to the movies. I see your logic, but I don't think you should be so quick to judge.
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#18 pianoman4life
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Honestly you should have played the demo for games like Stranglehold first. To me, it seemed like it would have ended quickly, but it was a game that i could play over and over again. The action is amazing and great to show friends, too. Plus, I like getting the achievements, so that makes all my games last longer.

Not Galaga... sorry.

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#19 EnderSR388
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Since when did "Next-Gen" mean more gameplay hours?? I guess MS left that chip out of the 360's, you know, to add more hours. :? At least we'll have good looking short games then!
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#20 NSR34GTR
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there are alot of people who would prefer MP over SP
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#21 Gamersince81
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Ask yourself if you want ONLYsuper long games when you work 8 hours a day and take 8- 12 credit workload in College. No offense, but people do have lives!! Only time i want super long games is when i have time....
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#22 sonofabear17
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oooook...... dont buy them :|
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so you want some cheese with that whine or should i call the whambulance right now?
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#24 barbierian205
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a good example of a game I wasted 60$ on was the Darkness. 10 hours long with minimal replay value and throwaway mulitplayer. sure it was great, but I've played it no more than 3 times. It would have been an easy rent. But I guess if everyone rented there would be no game industry, so I guess its all for the best.
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#25 xXmeatwad225Xx
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Ok i agree about paying full price for a game that has a short campaign. but look at shadowrun that is one of my favorite games for the 360 rite now and it doesn't have a singly player game.

and also gears of war great multi and single player but the single player is only like 10 hours.

its the multi-player of games that makes them great for me. But hey thats just my opinion.

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#26 Shooty_McSnipe
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Meh... I just hit up blockbuster for games I pay $12 and if I'm still having fun with the game after the week , I can keep it for a month and only pay $2 restocking fee :P
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#27 Shooty_McSnipe
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Games I'm sure i'll get lots of play out of , single player and online though I'll buy np , upcoming full price purchases for me..... NHL08 , Halo 3, CoD4
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#28 jdc6305
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Short games with multiplayer tacked on is a copout by the studios to save money and develpment time. I don't like short games because just as I'm getting into it it ends. I will not buy halo3 beacause halo2 was short and a rip off.

Resident evil4 was 20 hours long epic couldn't even give us 7 hours with gears of war.

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#29 Author_Jerry
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One unfortunate problem with next-gen technology is that it takes longer to create games with a satisfying length, which costs more money. Since no consumer enjoys waiting for anticipated products to be released, developers are pressured by the publisher and gamers to release their games quickly. This, logically, means shorter games, unless publishers give their developers more than just two years to create their games (Oblivion took six or seven years to develope).

You also have to understand that the games wouldn't be $60 if they didn't think consumers wouldn't pay that price (I think $50 is too expensive for most games). Since I doubt the the standard price is ever going to drop, there isn't much you can do except wait for the retailers to lower the price after demand has, itself, lowered for the games. That could take months--or even a year or more--after a game's release. =|
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#30 arcelice
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AMEN brother

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#31 Generic_Dude
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its no secret 95% of the 360 games out there are not worth 60 $

warz989

I wish you were wrong, but you're not. But the games that ARE worth it are REALLY worth it. But I try to get deals whenever I can. I actually grabbed Rainbow Six for $40 just a few weeks after it came out. But it would've been worth $60. Oblivion? DEFINITELY worth $60. But then you get games like Crackdown or Gears or whatever and it's a few hours of shallow, if attractive, gameplay that makes you feel loose in the caboose.

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#32 SecretWasianMan
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Ask yourself if you want ONLYsuper long games when you work 8 hours a day and take 8- 12 credit workload in College. No offense, but people do have lives!! Only time i want super long games is when i have time....Gamersince81

Amen Bro. I'm done with 12 credit workloads. I've taken it down 6 - 9, roughly 3 classes or so. So expensive... :(

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#33 reubendarosa
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That's why you rent games you don't want to buy.
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#34 Food_Nipple
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So that means that you won't be getting Halo 3 then
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#35 DevilMustCry
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I usually just rent games with 10 or less hours of gameplay unless the multiplayer is good enough to keep me playing for a while.

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#36 Diablo2343
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Paying $60 for a game that I can beat in a weekend sounds like a waste of money to me. I am sure I'm not the only one that belives that with the "next gen" prices we would get next gen graphics, sound, and most importantly...gameplay. It was bad enough to pay $50 for a game that ended in under 10 hours; let alone $60.

Look at Stranglehold with 6-8 hours of gameplay. What are we paying for? Sure it looks good and game is fun to play, but it's over before you can really get into it. To me, it's simple. If game developers want me to pay full price for a game, then they better give me more than 10 hours of gameplay.

Some people are going to argue that multiplayer can make a game fun long after the singleplayer story. Multiplayer can be a fun diversion, but the majority of players I believe would still rather have a solid single campaign. Then go online and play with their friends. What if the Halo singleplayer games were only 6-8 hours long? Would it still have the same appeal as it does today? I don't know.

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#37 Lord_Tik
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[QUOTE="Lord_Tik"]

Paying $60 for a game that I can beat in a weekend sounds like a waste of money to me. I am sure I'm not the only one that belives that with the "next gen" prices we would get next gen graphics, sound, and most importantly...gameplay. It was bad enough to pay $50 for a game that ended in under 10 hours; let alone $60.

Look at Stranglehold with 6-8 hours of gameplay. What are we paying for? Sure it looks good and game is fun to play, but it's over before you can really get into it. To me, it's simple. If game developers want me to pay full price for a game, then they better give me more than 10 hours of gameplay.

Some people are going to argue that multiplayer can make a game fun long after the singleplayer story. Multiplayer can be a fun diversion, but the majority of players I believe would still rather have a solid single campaign. Then go online and play with their friends. What if the Halo singleplayer games were only 6-8 hours long? Would it still have the same appeal as it does today? I don't know.

Diablo2343

OK says the man w/ a Shadowrun banner.

Heh I refuse to buy that sad excuse for a Shadowrun game. Hell, I don't even have XBL. This latest "Shadowrun" game basically proves my point. No way in hell is that game worth $60, even for the multiplayer.

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#38 Prodigy117
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$60 for a 10 hour game comes out to $6/hour...Which is a better deal than going to the movies. I see your logic, but I don't think you should be so quick to judge.spazzx625

Oh snap! Spazz just owned u lol.

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#39 cjgangsta
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they should turn down them prices a bit. getting mad greedy.
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#40 Lord_Yuber
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This is why i only buy quality games for the Xbox360, Strangle Hold in my opinion is definitely not up to those standards. For future reference, these are quality games.

Mass Effect, Halo 3, Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter 4?, Bioshock (short for those who have busy schedules) and perhaps some more.

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#41 ag1002
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I agree. Oblivion's singleplayer lasted me months, but not every game can be like that. I'm not looking for a quick fix here, I'm paying $60. I expect to get a lot out of it. I'm very picky, I think I've only bought games rated 8/10 and higher from gamespot. I've started renting games now though, it's fun because if the game sucks you aren't disapointed... it's inexpensive.
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#42 IXIAntiksIXI
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Okay???????

Why not just stick to RPG's or games with multiplayer action.

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#43 ply74
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Right on bro rent the easy to beat games for the gamer points and buy the long houred games or ones that are repetative that you love in Multiplayer. I more of a story drivin gamer so Multiplayer is nice but not in shooters to me, because it's the same. And COD$ beta is pretty but not good enough to hold my attention for long. Halo3 will be awesome 1 player and Multiplayer. There are just to many ways to change the multiplayer maps to keep it different and fun. But for those plain hardcore shooter fans you may like COD4 better, It's basically still just to much of tghe same to me.
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#44 ply74
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Very good advise dude thats what i do buy mainly rpg's with the exception of Halo3 of course and rent the rest.
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#45 ply74
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Is forza motorsport 2 worth getting or should i just wait for PGR4. If you guys had to choose between the 2 which would you get?
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#46 codemaster008
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Honestly, I don't know why we have to pay $60 for a game that costs $50 for the PC.
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#47 NavigatorsGhost
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its no secret 95% of the 360 games out there are not worth 60 $

warz989

Exactly. I've had a 360 since Bioshock was released. I've got Bioshock and downloaded Castlevania: SotN. Not getting anothr game until Halo.

I've had a PS3 SINCE LAUNCH and own Resistance and The Darkness. Thats it.

I refuse to buy rental games for 60 bucks.

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#48 jbaird1981
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Bio shock is the perfect expample of a game that lasts longer than 10 hours. I took my time with the game, probably played 20+ hours. Now I am playing through it again to get the rest of the achievements.

On that note, I agree with the topic starter that games no matter their worth, should be longer than 8-10 hours. Bioshock lasted me a good three weeks to beat, playing it here and there. DirT lasted me a very long time too. However, games like Ghost Recon Ad. Warfighter 2, lasts what, 6 hours? What's the point? it's the same sh*t. Wait till it drops to 25$, then buy it, that'll be worth it.

Valve's Orange Box, now that's a bargain. Go for shbangs like that.

By the way, MP blows, gets so boring and repetitive. They should enforce age group only MPs, because all the hate online, and the twelve year old kids with sh*t for brains are a waste of mytime.

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#49 metallica0283
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Achievement points defiently add more replay value, i think it's time to go save all of those little sisters now