I think most are losing site of what makes video games what they are.

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#1 ghstbstr
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The whole point of video games used to be the single-player not the online multi-player.
It seems like most of the companies who make video games are slowly losing site of the single-player part of games and only focusing on the online multi-player parts of games, also it seems like alot of gamers are just going along with this. To me that stinks because most games used to have single-player parts that lasts for 10 times the length that games are now and they had no multi-player, and there are some newer games lately that have no single-player parts and have online multi-player parts only.
I am not saying that I do not play any online multi-player games as I do but only a few, as the only online multi-player games that I have ever played and play are Battlefield 2: Modern Combat for PC and Xbox360 and GRAW 1 & 2 on Xbox360 and COD 2 & 4 for Xbox360 but with those I like the single-player parts much better.
I am 33 and I have played every video game system that has been released in the USA since the Pong, and I still have most of my console systems. I also have played PC games since 1999 and have almost every year upgrade my PC that I build myself. So I know video games, and I am not saying that I am better then anyone else as I am just trying to make a point that video games have changed over the years. Which I think video games are changing for the worse not for the better.

Do you agree or disagree or don't care? Please explain why?

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#2 jrobinow
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I agree that there has been more and more focus on the multiplayer aspect of games, but I think it's because that is what most younger gamers are looking for these days. The current 18-25 year olds have grown up in a world of constant connection to their friends through the internet, so it makes sense that they want games that involve the same kind of interaction. I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing, and personally I don't mind it if the single player campaign is only 10-15 hours as long as it is good, but I definitely see your point.
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#3 ShadowofTulkas
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To be blunt, I would have to say I agree with you about the single player status of today. However online games are still good too. Personally I would like to see more multiplayer games.
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#4 Hermitkermit
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I agree, nowadays games are focus on multiplayer and online gameplay.

There's nothing more annoying then buying a game only to find out the campaiqn last like for 15 to 20 hours. Gone are the days of 4 people playing splitscreen on one TV and playing coop side by side, I am only hoping coop spiltscreen is still in style.

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#5 msdd9
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I would like to see companies put a little more effort into sp, but there are still plenty of great sp games (Bioshock, ME, OBLIVION,etc).
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#6 msdd9
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I agree, nowadays games are focus on multiplayer and online gameplay.

There's nothing more annoying then buying a game only to find out the campaiqn last like for 15 to 20 hours. Gone are the days of 4 people playing splitscreen on one TV and playing coop side by side, I am only hoping coop spiltscreen is still in style.

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#7 LightColor
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agreed, COD4 has a good campaign, but way too short, to much is focused on MP, not sayin its bad but the SP should b just as fun n good and long lasting as the MP
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#8 stevo_511
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You guys all say that game makers should focus more on the single player and less on the multiplayer, well, multiplayer games is what most of the world wants right now, and its bigger than ever, so they figure they can make a shorter single player, good but short, and make an amazing online multiplayer, that never gets old. Its all about making money, and the online industry is where all the money is at.
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#9 DJ_Xbox
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The whole point of video games used to be the single-player not the online multi-player.
It seems like most of the companies who make video games are slowly losing site of the single-player part of games and only focusing on the online multi-player parts of games, also it seems like alot of gamers are just going along with this. To me that stinks because most games used to have single-player parts that lasts for 10 times the length that games are now and they had no multi-player, and there are some newer games lately that have no single-player parts and have online multi-player parts only.
I am not saying that I do not play any online multi-player games as I do but only a few, as the only online multi-player games that I have ever played and play are Battlefield 2: Modern Combat for PC and Xbox360 and GRAW 1 & 2 on Xbox360 and COD 2 & 4 for Xbox360 but with those I like the single-player parts much better.
I am 33 and I have played every video game system that has been released in the USA since the Pong, and I still have most of my console systems. I also have played PC games since 1999 and have almost every year upgrade my PC that I build myself. So I know video games, and I am not saying that I am better then anyone else as I am just trying to make a point that video games have changed over the years. Which I think video games are changing for the worse not for the better.

Do you agree or disagree or don't care? Please explain why?

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#10 Nerd_Man
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I think as times change (From the day of Pong, until now), the innovations in gaming also change. Multiplayer being one of the things that change over the years. Things get better.

What I do not like, is the people who buy great games like Call of Duty 4 and completely ignore the campaign mode and skip to online play only, and worst of all, say it's the best game ever made without even getting the full experience (As goes for any game). Then there's the people who completely reject a game like Bioshock or Mass Effect, simply because the games lack online multiplayer.

As long as there's people like this out there in the world, developers will keep going for better multiplayer experiences, with either dulled down or shorter single player experiences, because multiplayer has become a selling point in the gaming world, and where there's money, business will be there.
If Halo 3 contained no multiplayer, tons of people wouldn't have bought it.

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#11 wreak
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personally i realy don't give 2 poos about most multie player unless somthing realy astounding or addictive comes along like team fortress 2, and yes even halo. for the other 90% of the time i play games i play them for the single player, and latley...infact ever since the 360 came out i'v found that there is just no story w/ single player games these days w/ a few exceptions, bioshock being a towering example of one. this is actualy a real shame considering games have an unpresadented advantage when it comes to getting the player to give a crap considering it's an interactive medium, and most ppl, not just gamers or developers but ppl in general don't seem to realize this, they are far to concerned w/ keeping up the traditional view of gaming being for nerds w/ no girl friends or social life. i guess what i'm trying to say is that games are realy awesome, but it's a shame because i'v never seen a meduim so unwilling to perpetuate it'self into becoming a legitimate artform.
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#12 Food_Nipple
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no, what makes a video game what it is, is an entertaining and interactive way to spend time in a virtual world and it doesn't matter how it's done, whether it be multiplayer or single player. No one is losing sight of anything
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#13 ElArab
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damnit I still can't vote in polls - stupid glitch.
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#14 KneeltoErasmus
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i remember a lot of games on the n64 and xbox sometimes took me forever to beat. I mean at least 20-30 hours at least...now on the 360 I'm lucky to find a solid 8 hours.
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#15 defdans
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I couldn't disagree more. When I think of playing games when i was a kid, I think of playing Nintendo at my best friends house. Double Dribble, Zelda, etc. Games that even when they were single player, we played together. Pong was more fun against another person. If you ask me (which you did), then the fact that many games focus on the online aspect is actually bringing games back to their roots. The only difference is that we can play with our friends from the comfort of our homes, rather than having to convince our parents to drive us over and let us stay up late.
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#16 MsCortana
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As with any industry money is the key motivator. Multiplayer games are in demand and the gaming industry is responding. I definitely see your point and would like to see more singleplayer focused gaming. Not so sure that things are getting worse, rather evolving. The question is can you evolve with it?
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#17 jbaird1981
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Completely aggreed.

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#18 luigismansion101
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i tend to get a new multiplayer shooter about every 2 months, i cant stand them much longer because by that time everyone is cheating with glitches b/c everyone knows how to do them. if you want to goof off with a bunch of friends thats one thing, but to go into a ranked match and do glitches is annoying. i hate buying games that have short 6 hour campaigns and live for just multiplayer, but even worse are these games that come out that are 6 hours and have no multiplayer. it's quality over quantity, but i want my money's worth out of a game if i spend 60 bucks for it. i guess that is what renting is for though right. i could def go for some more great single player games like Bioshock.
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#19 Fuzzman38
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I cant wait for Ninja Gaiden 2, that will be the best single player game on the 360
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#20 ConflictMaster
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Since the single player on most games is longer than older games SP I dont think you could get more wrong(super mario bros-short 2 hours or so,Sonic the Hedghog was an hour or so long,COD4 -at least 10,Halo 3 at least 5)
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#21 TigerFangRed
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I see nothing wrong with online gameplay, but I see your point. And by the way, Mass Effect came out, which has an epic singleplayer and zero multiplayer.
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#22 Kingjames11
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Agreed. I'm on the far end of the spectrum though. I don't have live or play any games online. I'm single player all the way, so when a game like COD4 comes out, no matter how awesome, I don't buy it unless I'm getting my money's worth. Six to eight hours of gameplay just isn't enough for me to spend $60 for. I don't care anything about multiplayer. If they release multiplayer only games, I will never buy. I'm just not interested. Which is why I'm all for Mass Effect and Oblivion type games. Either that or the SP mode has to have a lot of replayability (such as RS:Vegas with its terrorist hunt).
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#23 deactivated-5f89ab8e63049
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Unfortunately the focus is changing. People want multiplayer - it addds replay value much greater than any single player campaign to a great deal of people. There are still some games focused on a single player experience. Bioshock, Mass Effect, Eternal Sonata, Oblivion, Half Life 2, Dead Rising, etc. But this gaming generation is really going to be pushing multiplayer/online games - it's the latest evolution.

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#24 Necromancer5
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I agree with you its sad that its happening. But there are atill MANY good Single player games out there they've mentioned some of them already. But like some1 else said its that times that are changing. Soon we'll have something else and Mulltiplayer will be yesterday's news (as hard as that may be to believe) But just like everything else the gaming industry must be flexible and I personally can't find anything that changes any better than this industry. I'm sure we'll have more than enough SP games to satisfy us.
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#25 SorasGhost009
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agree but i love multi too
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#26 OnLineKilla
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Since the single player on most games is longer than older games SP I dont think you could get more wrong(super mario bros-short 2 hours or so,Sonic the Hedghog was an hour or so long,COD4 -at least 10,Halo 3 at least 5)ConflictMaster

Man you're way off about new games having longer SP than older games, i guess u never played a snes, genesis, N64, ps1, dreamcast, or even ps2.

But in either case, I agree and think they need to put more into the SP for games, but at the same time they don't need to necessarily take away from online MP.

Mass Effect & Bioshock were great SP games. I've pumped about 50 hours into mass effect now...