If Black Ops Isnt better than MW2...

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#1 xboxmad12
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If Black Ops is still the same old boosters,overpowered Killstreak rewards Overpowered Guns/perks,etc

Does that mean Call of duty will lose its crown ? Alot of people are sick of COD already But the rest of the fans might think if this isnt top class then thats it.

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#2 Stevo7991
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You'll see the time by november. Just wait for it.

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#3 beau_x
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If Black Ops is still the same old boosters,overpowered Killstreak rewards Overpowered Guns/perks,etc

Does that mean Call of duty will lose its crown ? Alot of people are sick of COD already But the rest of the fans might think if this isnt top class then thats it.

xboxmad12

I'm not sick of COD, it's alot of fun. I will say that some of the killstreaks in MW 2 are a bit overpowered and annoying though.

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#4 Drakebunny
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MW2 was great, the community wasn't, which gives the notion that the game is bad. If someone poured acid on your favorite meal all the time before you ate it, and it tasted horrible, that doesn't mean the meal at its core is bad.

Bad analogies for the win ^^^^.

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#5 Kazincski
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MW2 was great, the community wasn't, which gives the notion that the game is bad. If someone poured acid on your favorite meal all the time before you ate it, and it tasted horrible, that doesn't mean the meal at its core is bad.

Bad analogies for the win ^^^^.

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True - 95% of the games where you need team work from random ppl will fail...somehow few of them are still alive

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#6 Assassin_73
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[QUOTE="Kazincski"]

[QUOTE="Drakebunny"]

MW2 was great, the community wasn't, which gives the notion that the game is bad. If someone poured acid on your favorite meal all the time before you ate it, and it tasted horrible, that doesn't mean the meal at its core is bad.

Bad analogies for the win ^^^^.

True - 95% of the games where you need team work from random ppl will fail...somehow few of them are still alive

i agree with u
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#7 Elann2008
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For every one person that is sick of Call of Duty, there are two more that like it.
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#8 k2theswiss
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mw2 sucks because of it's devs don't know how put a dollar towards fixing a bug... plus the noobtubes everywhere. i say if you can't get it right take it out...

because they sure don't know how balance them...

game is fun but until they know how balance some of it's crap and spand a dollar fixxing bugs. done buying them

thats a fact...

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#9 KlepticGrooves
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The problem lies with the community.

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#10 jesseandnikki
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I'm not holding my breath...waiting for MW3
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#11 Xbox360Gamer15
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[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]

mw2 sucks because of it's devs don't know how put a dollar towards fixing a bug... plus the noobtubes everywhere. i say if you can't get it right take it out...

because they sure don't know how balance them...

game is fun but until they know how balance some of it's crap and spand a dollar fixxing bugs. done buying them

thats a fact...

i have had mw2 for a while and ive played online for a long time and im still bad at it......im not new at it but im not good at it....whatever team im on usaully loses
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#12 SpArKs424
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Same old Rehash game .

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#13 GearsOfWar11111
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well the only reason MW2 is crap(my opion) is because of the people playing. if black ops is going to do any good is if people only stop going for easy kills.

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#14 0Hamburgher
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MW2 is crap because of the people who play it AND because it just isn't that much fun. I have to say that it IS the easiest way to make Online friends. My friend rented it, and over half of his friends always play it.
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Black Ops won't fail b/c Treyarch made it clear they have invested a lot of resources into the anti cheat system, and there are no game ending killstreaks.
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If Black Ops is still the same old boosters,overpowered Killstreak rewards Overpowered Guns/perks,etc

Does that mean Call of duty will lose its crown ? Alot of people are sick of COD already But the rest of the fans might think if this isnt top class then thats it.

xboxmad12

I am little sick of it although I will get it, ill just wait till christmas and as for MW2 I stopped playing that after a realised the error of my ways and started playing BF:BC2. Black ops will be the 7th outing on this gen console and people say there are too many Halo games WTF!!

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#17 Twisted-Ice-God
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you have to remember something though, modern warfare and modern warfare 2 are totaly different than the ww2 games under the cod franchise, and black ops will be different, why does everyone always compare back to back cod games, they switch companys every year so it doesnt make sense to compare the two games head to head, they will play differnt and be different, just uses same tech for the most part, just upgraded. compare mw to mw2, the core game minus the people who are noobs and cheats mw2 is much better, compare waw to cod3 and waw was better. its all dependent on how you look at the franchise, its no different than madden every year exept cod has compation there is no madden compotion.

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#18 Black_Knight_00
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MW2 is a great game with a mountain of problems, but I doubt BO will do better (Treyarch anyone?). We'll see.
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#19 furionkings
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MW2 is a great game with a mountain of problems, but I doubt BO will do better (Treyarch anyone?). We'll see.Black_Knight_00

Treyarch did a good job on WaW, in my opinion.. I still go back and play it every once in a while.

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#20 BattleSpectre
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TC, Call of Duty has already lost their crown, or at least to me. A lot of people are jumping off it's bandwagon and are quite worried about how Black Ops will turn out. I loved MW2, but im not too sure about Black Ops. I'm just waiting for MW3, this should freshen things up, and hopefully be a blast.

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#21 archvile_78
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*Read topic title*

Then you can wait next year to ask the same question but with Call of duty 8 instead! :lol:

but yeah lame joke aside, rehash rehash rehash...

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you have to remember something though, modern warfare and modern warfare 2 are totaly different than the ww2 games under the cod franchise, and black ops will be different, why does everyone always compare back to back cod games, they switch companys every year so it doesnt make sense to compare the two games head to head, they will play differnt and be different, just uses same tech for the most part, just upgraded. compare mw to mw2, the core game minus the people who are noobs and cheats mw2 is much better, compare waw to cod3 and waw was better. its all dependent on how you look at the franchise, its no different than madden every year exept cod has compation there is no madden compotion.

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WTF YOU SAYING?

the games back to back is nearly same with very few added things.

they transfer game engines and ideals back to each dev to cut production time. they take same features and add or remove.

only think different is the aqrt and story nothing more

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#23 Samslayer
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[QUOTE="Twisted-Ice-God"]

you have to remember something though, modern warfare and modern warfare 2 are totaly different than the ww2 games under the cod franchise, and black ops will be different, why does everyone always compare back to back cod games, they switch companys every year so it doesnt make sense to compare the two games head to head, they will play differnt and be different, just uses same tech for the most part, just upgraded. compare mw to mw2, the core game minus the people who are noobs and cheats mw2 is much better, compare waw to cod3 and waw was better. its all dependent on how you look at the franchise, its no different than madden every year exept cod has compation there is no madden compotion.

k2theswiss

WTF YOU SAYING?

the games back to back is nearly same with very few added things.

they transfer game engines and ideals back to each dev to cut production time. they take same features and add or remove.

only think different is the aqrt and story nothing more

I agree. If it says Call of Duty and it is a FPS, I will always compare the games.

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#24 nottu
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MW2 was a great game, WaW was a good game, MW was a great game, when your evaluating the game itself and not the people playing them, Im sure that black ops will be a good game, and will most likely have the exact same problems as every CoD game that came before it.
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#25 ZzZEVOLUTIONZzZ
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MW2 was a great game, WaW was a good game, MW was a great game, when your evaluating the game itself and not the people playing them, Im sure that black ops will be a good game, and will most likely have the exact same problems as every CoD game that came before it. nottu

The flaw in your logic is that all those game were made by infinity ward and not treyarch.

My thoughts? It will be a basic copy and paste for multiplayer with a few new guns, modes, and killstreaks.

I hope the campaign isn't so short, maybe medal of honor's campaign will actually bring a decent single player FPS campaign back to the front. With all these lackluster single player campaigns begin released nowadays it is wishful thinking. My guess is 5-6 hours again...

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#26 theonlyway316
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cod is the moste fun me and friends cuzins had in a while with mw2 so we will see nov..

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#27 Ashley_wwe
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Nah, it has a neverending supply of milk. But I am happy... I have been a fan since the first ever one on the PC since it came out, so I love CoD and always have... bring on Black Ops! :D
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#28 vashkey
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In what way do you mean Call of Duty will "lose it's crown"? If you mean as the most played game on Live, thats debatable. Call of Duty has been the most played on particular weeks but as for a year a whole, thats yet to be the case. In 2004 and 5 Halo 2 was the most played game on Live. In 06 is was Gears of War. In 07, 08 and 09 it was Halo 3. Modern Warfare 2 will probably be the most played game this year though, so it'd technically be the first time Call of Duty ever had "the crown" for any particular year.

Black Ops will, without question, be the most played game on Live for some stretch of time simply for being the new Call of Duty. It'll remain to be seen if later when the new wears off if it can still beat Reach. But eventually another Call of Duty will be out to pull the rug from under Black Ops' feet and Reach will, like Halo 3 did before it, endure and keep a loyal fanbase. And history will likely repeat itself where Reach will remain the most played game on live until the next Halo.

Now, if it's in regard to sales then of course Call of Duty will remain the best selling shooter franchise. It's huge and on multiple platforms. Even if Black Ops remains largely the same the fans who bought World at War and Modern Warfare 2 have made it clear that they enjoy that core gameplay enough to buy it again and again. I doubt it'll sell as well as Modern Warfare 2 but I can pretty much guarantee you it'll still sell well over ten million units and thats no number any other shooter franchise can scoff at.

The quality will be debatable if it stays the same but I can promise you there will be millions that will be happy play it.