I'm Getting a 360...

... on Ebay. And I have many questions. You don't have to answer them all, but at least one for each person would be appreciated. =)

This pack is what I'm looking for : http://cgi.ebay.ca/Open-Box-XBOX-360-Live-2-games-cable-

HDMI_W0QQitemZ150243080532QQihZ005QQcategoryZ62054QQss

PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (sorry but gamespot won't allow the link in one part :S )

1. Are the graphics still good-looking without a HDTV?

2. What will I need more to get on Xbox Live and play online with my firends?

3. Can I get online with my 360 with a wireless router?

4. Are the Red Rings still a big problem?

5. Are the two games that come with it (Forza 2 and Marvel Ultimate Alliance) worth 50 $ ?

6. Is it safe to buy this on ebay?

Thanks a lot! =)

1. Yes

4. Kinda. It seems to be hit and miss.

5. I think forza 2 is great but I hated M.U.A. Alot of people like it tho. You can buy the bundle at Gamestop used for 19.99.

I'll leave the harder questions for someone else. Good luck.

and I'd like to give my opinion on your first question, it looks OK on a SDTV. Anyone who's saying that it looks GOOD is lieing and havn't played on a good HDTV.

Games look GREAT on HDTVs
Games look OK on SDTV.

Is the wireless adapter that thing at 100 $ ? o.oRenwyld

yes 70-80$
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Wireless-Network-Adapter/dp/B000B6MLV4

It still looks great on an SDTV - not "Ok"

I've played on a 42" 1080p HDTV and it looks superb, but SD still looks better than "ok"

... on Ebay. And I have many questions. You don't have to answer them all, but at least one for each person would be appreciated. =)

This pack is what I'm looking for : http://cgi.ebay.ca/Open-Box-XBOX-360-Live-2-games-cable-

HDMI_W0QQitemZ150243080532QQihZ005QQcategoryZ62054QQss

PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (sorry but gamespot won't allow the link in one part :S )

1. Are the graphics still good-looking without a HDTV?

2. What will I need more to get on Xbox Live and play online with my firends?

3. Can I get online with my 360 with a wireless router?

4. Are the Red Rings still a big problem?

5. Are the two games that come with it (Forza 2 and Marvel Ultimate Alliance) worth 50 $ ?

6. Is it safe to buy this on ebay?

Thanks a lot! =)

Renwyld

My Opinion for answers...

1) Yes - they are just much better with HDTV - but even on SDTV they are a huge leap over last generation graphics (and gameplay).

2) You will need an XboxLive GOLD membership if you want to play online with your friends. The free Silver account the 360 comes with works for downloads of updates and games - but doesn't allow you to play against other people online. You will also need a wireless network adapter designed for the 360 (see next answer). You can run standard ethernet cable to the 360 instead of going wireless though - if that is an option.

3) It depends on the type of wireless router - but most likely yes. You will also need to buy a wirelss network adapter for the 360 - the MS one is $100, but there are other less expensive 3rd party ones available on the net for $50 to $70.

4) While the 3 red rings are still possible they are not nearly the problem as they used to be due to updated hardware used - MS has extended the warranty for RROD (3 red rings) problem to 3 years though - so don't worry about this just get your 360 and enjoy the amazing games. :)

5) If you bought those 2 games brand new they would retail for about $60 for both right now (I have seen Forza for $20 and MUA for $40) - so while it is a small savings it is still a savings - so yes it's worth it.

6) While these are open box - they are the newer hardware revisions as they include HDMI and are PRemium models - so you should still be covered by warranty. There is always some risk with buying off of Ebay as opposed to a local retailer - I would always suggest a local retailer if you can afford the retail price. However since these are still under warranty - I wouldn't worry too much - these look to be about as safe as you can get for a purchase off of Ebay.

GET A 360 - you won't regret it. Even the rare instance where someone has gotten a 3 red rings - even those people usually don't regret getting a 360 just because there are so many amazing games to play on it. Sure it's frustrating to send it in for repair but it's worth it just to be able to keep playing the games the 360 has. Again though the chances of the 3 red rings on newer models is reletively low.

HAVE FUN! :)

Regarding the three year warranty, you may check into Microsoft's policy on accepting receipts from eBay. Honestly, I can't imagine they would. You could still use the warranty through this November (as the 360 was launched in Nov. '05) but beyond that you might run into trouble.cgoliver

Agreed....that was the main issue I had with the threadmaker buying a console off of ebay.If your money situation isn't good right now, be patient and save up to get a brand new with a fresh warranty.:)

[QUOTE="cgoliver"]Regarding the three year warranty, you may check into Microsoft's policy on accepting receipts from eBay. Honestly, I can't imagine they would. You could still use the warranty through this November (as the 360 was launched in Nov. '05) but beyond that you might run into trouble.MERC_RECONN

Agreed....that was the main issue I had with the threadmaker buying a console off of ebay.If your money situation isn't good right now, be patient and save up to get a brand new with a fresh warranty.:)

You don't need a receipt for the warranty and they will cover even second hand purchased 360's. When it comes to the 3 red rings if you have a 360 - they will cover it regardless of where you got the 360 from.

Also as far as the dates go - since these are Premiums with HDMI - they have only been manufactured since approximately Oct of 2007 - so the 3 years will cover until 2010 same month as manufacture.

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I dig your sig.

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[QUOTE="cgoliver"]Regarding the three year warranty, you may check into Microsoft's policy on accepting receipts from eBay. Honestly, I can't imagine they would. You could still use the warranty through this November (as the 360 was launched in Nov. '05) but beyond that you might run into trouble.DataDream

Agreed....that was the main issue I had with the threadmaker buying a console off of ebay.If your money situation isn't good right now, be patient and save up to get a brand new with a fresh warranty.:)

You don't need a receipt for the warranty and they will cover even second hand purchased 360's. When it comes to the 3 red rings if you have a 360 - they will cover it regardless of where you got the 360 from.

Also as far as the dates go - since these are Premiums with HDMI - they have only been manufactured since approximately Oct of 2007 - so the 3 years will cover until 2010 same month as manufacture.

Wow...I didn't know that....thanks.:)

[QUOTE="DataDream"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]MERC_RECONN

I dig your sig.

Thanks man. :)

I deleted - edited - and reposted that message so I apologize for the "deleted" quote. LOL

I've been gaming on all platforms far too long to choose one over another - they all have their advantages and anything that pushes the industry forward regardless of who makes it - is all good with me. :)

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[QUOTE="DataDream"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]DataDream

I dig your sig.

Thanks man. :)

I deleted - edited - and reposted that message so I apologize for the "deleted" quote. LOL

I've been gaming on all platforms far too long to choose one over another - they all have their advantages and anything that pushes the industry forward regardless of who makes it - is all good with me. :)

Same here,Ive been around since the atari days so I'm a fan of Technology in general.I've never owned a Nintendo system BUT i've always had the uttermost respect for them a company. As a matter of fact, I'm using them as a business model to start my own business. lol

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[QUOTE="DataDream"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]MERC_RECONN

I dig your sig.

Thanks man. :)

I deleted - edited - and reposted that message so I apologize for the "deleted" quote. LOL

I've been gaming on all platforms far too long to choose one over another - they all have their advantages and anything that pushes the industry forward regardless of who makes it - is all good with me. :)

Same here,Ive been around since the atari days so I'm a fan of Technology in general.I've never owned a Nintendo system BUT i've always had the uttermost respect for them a company. As a matter of fact, I'm using them as a business model to start my own business. lol

Right there with ya man - and me to with the Atari thing. A little before actually - but yeah console wise. I'm on board with your Nintendo thoughts too. I did like the GameCube - but haven't been a huge fan of their other stuff. I love the company and their businees model (not a much better one to copy from :) ) - but most the games are just too kidsy for me to really enjoy.

I have a Standard Definition TV and all of my games looks amazing still.

the only thing really that HD improves is the lighting and resolution.

1.) Yes, the graphics are still really good on SD.

2.) Not sure.

3.) Yes, I think so.

4.) No not really. Even if you do get RROD you can send your 360 to MS and they'll fix it for free.

5.) I'm not a fan of racing games, but Marvel: AU is fun.

6.) Yes, Ebay is usually quite reliable.

Welcome mate! Best gaming system ever, for me at least.

The infamous RRoD like most things over internet is more talk than anything else, I for once never experienced it. A friend of mine did, however, but MS does send a van to your place to gfet it and deliver within, tops, 3 weeks.

Anyway, if you love videogames you're going to love, adore, be amazed by it,

buddy my sincere advice, dont rush into buying anything, i bought a 360, it crapped out after 10 months, i loved it, its amazing but you never know when it dies, it happens suddenly and you are lost, So be carefulbe sure you doing the right thing.danyalhk

I thought that was weird, since 360 has a 3 year warranty, and you talk like the box sudenly vanished, but then I read your profile, and it explains everything.

I mean, wha's the problem with PS3 fanboys?! Don't be sad...