In desperate need of advice.

yep the best ones would be the ones manufactured closest to todays date. and yes get an elite, if i didnt have a 360 and was going to buy one i dont seea reason not getting a elite, except for the black finish.elmafia

Thanks for responding and yeah I don't really care for the black finish either but I am still getting one.

Both the Elites and the new Premiums that have just hits store not only both have HDMI, but they both use the 'Zephyr' hardware revision. This revision is the one after the one used at launch which has all of the problems but it is the one before 'Falcon', which uses the 65nm chips. There have not really been any reports on Elites failing, so the 'Zephyr' revision improvements must have really helped. Since the new premiums that have hit stores use this same hardware configuration, then they are a better bet as well. However, the 'Falcon' revision with the cooler running 65nm chips will be hitting stores any time now. So you could wait. Personally, I don't care since the 3 year warranty has me covered. If mine does break down, I will get the newest revision for free. If you look on the box where it says what country the unit was made in (for example, 'Hardware made in China', 'Disc Drive made in Taiwan'), it will say Zephyr in the same area (on the box). You then know for sure you have that revision. I assume it will say 'Falcon' when that hit stores to. Here's a link to a picture of what I'm talking about.

http://www.planetxbox360.com/index.php/articledetails/show/2383

Both the Elites and the new Premiums that have just hits store not only both have HDMI, but they both use the 'Zephyr' hardware revision. This revision is the one after the one used at launch which has all of the problems but it is the one before 'Falcon', which uses the 65nm chips. There have not really been any reports on Elites failing, so the 'Zephyr' revision improvements must have really helped. Since the new premiums that have hit stores use this same hardware configuration, then they are a better bet as well. However, the 'Falcon' revision with the cooler running 65nm chips will be hitting stores any time now. So you could wait. Personally, I don't care since the 3 year warranty has me covered. If mine does break down, I will get the newest revision for free. If you look on the box where it says what country the unit was made in (for example, 'Hardware made in China', 'Disc Drive made in Taiwan'), it will say Zephyr in the same area (on the box). You then know for sure you have that revision. I assume it will say 'Falcon' when that hit stores to. Here's a link to a picture of what I'm talking about.

http://www.planetxbox360.com/index.php/articledetails/show/2383

Grende1

Thanks man! As for the one who said that I should just get a premium with the hdmi, sorry but I really want the 120 gigs right now. I have had to delete so much stuff off my old 360 just because I didn't have enough room, so I figure getting the elite would be cheaper than getting a premium and then buying the extra 120 gig HD or at least it would be easier from my point of view. But thanks for the advice.

Glad that you've solved your problem!

But, isn't your 360 covered under Microsoft's extended warrenty? Or is your case not covered because it's not the "3 flashing lights"?

Glad that you've solved your problem!

But, isn't your 360 covered under Microsoft's extended warrenty? Or is your case not covered because it's not the "3 flashing lights"?

Myshuno

No it hasn't red ringed yet and I am not sure if it will. My 360 is having some GPU problems and it really messes with the game play so I figure I will keep my old one around for backups or anything besides gaming and get a Elite. My warranty has been up for almost 8 months now, and I am not paying to get this hunk of crap repaired.

[QUOTE="Myshuno"]

Glad that you've solved your problem!

But, isn't your 360 covered under Microsoft's extended warrenty? Or is your case not covered because it's not the "3 flashing lights"?

Spiritgod

No it hasn't red ringed yet and I am not sure if it will. My 360 is having some GPU problems and it really messes with the game play so I figure I will keep my old one around for backups or anything besides gaming and get a Elite. My warranty has been up for almost 8 months now, and I am not paying to get this hunk of crap repaired.

But Microsoft just extended its warrenty to three years, so you should be covered. I'll just assume that you can't get it fixed because this extended warrenty only coveres red-ringed consoles, yes?

You could always try selling your old one, though I'm not sure how morally good that would be.

[QUOTE="Spiritgod"][QUOTE="Myshuno"]

Glad that you've solved your problem!

But, isn't your 360 covered under Microsoft's extended warrenty? Or is your case not covered because it's not the "3 flashing lights"?

Myshuno

No it hasn't red ringed yet and I am not sure if it will. My 360 is having some GPU problems and it really messes with the game play so I figure I will keep my old one around for backups or anything besides gaming and get a Elite. My warranty has been up for almost 8 months now, and I am not paying to get this hunk of crap repaired.

But Microsoft just extended its warrenty to three years, so you should be covered. I'll just assume that you can't get it fixed because this extended warrenty only coveres red-ringed consoles, yes?

You could always try selling your old one, though I'm not sure how morally good that would be.

Yeah my 360 isn't covered because it hasn't red ringed. And plus I would love to have the HDMI port and the extra HD space that I desperately need. And no I would never do that to anyone, I can't in good conscience sell something that I know to be faulty.

[QUOTE="Myshuno"][QUOTE="Spiritgod"][QUOTE="Myshuno"]

Glad that you've solved your problem!

But, isn't your 360 covered under Microsoft's extended warrenty? Or is your case not covered because it's not the "3 flashing lights"?

Spiritgod

No it hasn't red ringed yet and I am not sure if it will. My 360 is having some GPU problems and it really messes with the game play so I figure I will keep my old one around for backups or anything besides gaming and get a Elite. My warranty has been up for almost 8 months now, and I am not paying to get this hunk of crap repaired.

But Microsoft just extended its warrenty to three years, so you should be covered. I'll just assume that you can't get it fixed because this extended warrenty only coveres red-ringed consoles, yes?

You could always try selling your old one, though I'm not sure how morally good that would be.

Yeah my 360 isn't covered because it hasn't red ringed. And plus I would love to have the HDMI port and the extra HD space that I desperately need. And no I would never do that to anyone, I can't in good conscience sell something that I know to be faulty.

Well that's good!

You can always sell your old HDD once you've transferred everything over to your new 120 GB HDD.

I have been a 360 owner since launch. I have had four 360s each with their own problem. The one I have now has had it's issues but nothing I couldn't work around, except for now. My 360s GPU is going out, meaning I will be in need of a new 360. My first thought was to get an Elite with a extended warranty. This isn't, please help me make my mind up on getting a new 360, I will be getting one sooner or later. Is there a special manufacturing date I should be looking for with certain 360s? I hear that getting a 360 that was manufactured closer to todays date was a much better move than getting one manufactured at the beginning of the year, can anyone confirm? I just don't want any problems out of this one because if I get a new one and it breaks or messes up then that is it, I will prompt to get a new one through MS but I will no longer buy another 360.Spiritgod

If you been through four 360's im guessing the problem is with the user/gamer not the console whether it be trying to mod it/self upgrading it,putting it in a area that the 360 cant vent or overheat or hitting it.I have to say if you do plan to look for a better quality 360 the elite should be up there since it rarely has manufacture problems.

Yeah my 360 isn't covered because it hasn't red ringed. And plus I would love to have the HDMI port and the extra HD space that I desperately need. And no I would never do that to anyone, I can't in good conscience sell something that I know to be faulty.

Spiritgod

There's a good chance your unit might get the 3RL eventually. Also, while I'm not saying to do anything to void your warranty or endanger your house, the biggest problem with the original 360 hardware is heat and there are ways to increase the heat, also resulting in the 3RL. Also, people have said that MS has replaced their unit even without the 3RL problem, if you ask nicely. Finally, and this is a bit devious, you could always just say it has the 3RL and ship it out anyway. There's a good chance they'll just ship you a refurb, most likely one withat least the 'Zephyr' revision so they don't have to replace it again. Unless, of course, you are fine with spending money to make upfor MS's mistake. If so, more power to you.

[QUOTE="Spiritgod"]

Yeah my 360 isn't covered because it hasn't red ringed. And plus I would love to have the HDMI port and the extra HD space that I desperately need. And no I would never do that to anyone, I can't in good conscience sell something that I know to be faulty.

Grende1

There's a good chance your unit might get the 3RL eventually. Also, while I'm not saying to do anything to void your warranty or endanger your house, the biggest problem with the original 360 hardware is heat and there are ways to increase the heat, also resulting in the 3RL. Also, people have said that MS has replaced their unit even without the 3RL problem, if you ask nicely. Finally, and this is a bit devious, you could always just say it has the 3RL and ship it out anyway. There's a good chance they'll just ship you a refurb, most likely one withat least the 'Zephyr' revision so they don't have to replace it again. Unless, of course, you are fine with spending money to make upfor MS's mistake. If so, more power to you.

I've heard this as well. Even if your console doesn't get the three red lights, there is a very good chance that Microsoft will repair it regardless.

Look at it this way: it is in Microsoft's best interest to comply and to give you a satisfactory product. If they repair your system at no charge to you, then, in the long run, you will probably be giving Microsoft more money in game/ascessory purchases than the little change it cost them to repair your system.

[QUOTE="Spiritgod"]I have been a 360 owner since launch. I have had four 360s each with their own problem. The one I have now has had it's issues but nothing I couldn't work around, except for now. My 360s GPU is going out, meaning I will be in need of a new 360. My first thought was to get an Elite with a extended warranty. This isn't, please help me make my mind up on getting a new 360, I will be getting one sooner or later. Is there a special manufacturing date I should be looking for with certain 360s? I hear that getting a 360 that was manufactured closer to todays date was a much better move than getting one manufactured at the beginning of the year, can anyone confirm? I just don't want any problems out of this one because if I get a new one and it breaks or messes up then that is it, I will prompt to get a new one through MS but I will no longer buy another 360.Ballroompirate

If you been through four 360's im guessing the problem is with the user/gamer not the console whether it be trying to mod it/self upgrading it,putting it in a area that the 360 cant vent or overheat or hitting it.I have to say if you do plan to look for a better quality 360 the elite should be up there since it rarely has manufacture problems.

Let me guess, you think i dunk my console in water or something because it's overheating? There is nothing wrong with the way I take care of my consoles, I keep all of my consoles in a highly vented area, the temperature in the room I keep them in is always 62 degrees. I take better care of my consoles then most people do with themselves so don't give me any crap about it's my fault. Oh and by the way I have never tried to take apart, mod or any other form of dismembering my console because that would void the warranty and I don't want to give MS any reason to say it's my fault my 360 breaks. But would you really like to know why I have had four? Because my first was a launch console that wouldn't play Oblivion so I sent it in , then I was given a second which the disc tray wouldn't open and it wouldn't turn off, so I sent that one in to get yet another one and that one ended up dieing on me with the red ring of death in less than a week. Now I have another one and in less than a year the GPU is dieing. So tell me again how that's my fault?

I hate it when people always assume it's the owners fault when you see such a high failure rate. You do know MS can make mistakes right?