Is call of duty 4 unbalanced? Please comment.

I think it is and heres why.

The M16 is the first assault rifle in the game. It's power rivals the M14's, it's range that of a sniper, it has no recoil from the hip and no recoil while aiming. It is a super weapon. It has immense bullet penetration as well. Then there's the MP5. The first SMG in the game. It has no recoil, it has the most range for a SMG and has high power, the only thing that makes the P90 rival it. Is that the P90 has a deap clip. These weapons would be fine if they were not the first weapons in the game. Everyone has them and everyone uses them. It's gay Either the M16 should have to be unlocked later or it should have this.

Inacuracy when shooting from the hip. Less short range accuracy, and some recoil while aiming down the sights. This would actually make it take some skill. The MP5 should also have to be unlocked unless this was it's attributes.

Recoil while aiming and shooting from the hip. Please recoil while aiming it's insane. And absolutely NO bullet penetration. Why you ask. Well because in real life it has no penetration. It uses pistol rounds. Big 9mm pistol rounds. I know that some of you might think then that ruins the game. And that is probably because those are the only weapons you have the ability to use. The easiest in the game. I think that these weapons are whats keeping CoD 4 back from being the best 360 online shooter. Just fix them and it will be. One more thing why does everyone brag about using the M16?

SMG has tons of recoil when firing from the hip

And as for the M16 one on one up close its hard to use

all i say is...it is semi automatic.
balance.therapyhiccup

Hmmm... interesting comment considering neither the MP5 or the M16 are semi-auto in CoD4, the M16 fires in burst.

you people are pitiful. Complaining wont do squat. I believe the game is balanced for the reasons you just made TC. The fact that everyone can have the MP5 and the M16 makes the game incredibly fair. Especially since matchmaking is quite awful in this game. Also the m16 SUCKS at close range because of the fact that it only fires in bursts. A lvl 5 could stand a damn good chance against a lvl 55. Hell imagine if they gave the .50 cal at lvl 5 then that would be something to complain about. You could shoot someone in the ankle with the .50 cal and they will die in one shot especially with stopping power as a perk. Im going to use the classic forum line for stupid complaints like this....

"You must suck at this game"

I just wish acog scopes were useful,madhattershat1

i think they are reall usefall especially for headshots with the M16 not so much with a sniper

i think u just suck at COD4

so an mp5 has no bullet penetration because it uses 9mm slugs? its still a gun you know.

basically, people keep pwning you with M16s and MP5s.

REAL WORLD: The M16 is semi automatic, and is designed to be used by pretty much everyone in the US army, to be user friendly. So in reality, it is a very easy gun to use. Also, its only fair that people who are new to the game get at least one good weapon for medium/long range from the off, or they'll get bored and never play it again.

The MP5 doesn't have as much recoil as something like an Uzi or a Skorpion, because it has a stock. It is renowned as one of the most stable, and usable SMGs available. It probably does have the longest effective range of all the SMGs in the game, and the P90s high rate of fire more than makes up for the MP5s power advantage. Once again, if new players don't get something good from the start, they won't keep playing.

For the record, its a lot easier to get a lot of kills with an M4 or a G36C. Neither the M16 or the MP5 are as versatile as these.

And if CoD4 isnt the best online shooter, what is?

I've whooped plenty of people who use the M-16. It's basically skill when It comes down to it, I have a couple of friends that can't use the M-16 worth sh*t and can kick a** with the M14 and G3.

And for the most part, the person who gets the drop first and has at-least some type of accuracy will get the kill. It's not like other games where you can duck and dodge fighting back in gun battles.

I totally agree about the M16.

Another terribly overpowered gun is the RPD and even the M60.

In real life the MP5 can't penetrate because the big 9mm bullets don'y move fast enough. That is why the MP9 is replacing it. Second the M16 can't even fire in burst in real life you forgot that. Also the M16 should be worse in the game then what it is because in real life it jams and brakes very fast. They have no other way to make up for that. Also the G36 is better in thegame becasue it is better in real life. Don't come here and try to bring realism into this please. Because it get's you nowhere. Now the lower ranked players have the AK which is a effective weapon. And give them the UZI before the MP9. And if you really want put the M4 as the first AR in the game.

One last thing I in fact do not suck. My tag is Mogar the Great. I'm in third prestige lvl 55. My kill/death ratio is 1.51 and I could kick your ass any day.

I have seen people be very successful with the ACOG scope on an UZI. No, I am not joking either.

I also think that the M16 allows for two things. When your starting out...it allows you to be competitive to level up. It also helps those who go on to prestige to get back in the game sooner.

Having the M16 early evens the playing field i think. It allows noobs to compete with people of a higher rank right off the bat without being owned because their weapons are inferior.DZBricktop

That's exactly the point. Imagine how many people would complain about NOT having a powerful gun to rival those of a higher rank - especially when people Prestige. But, I guess you can't please everyone.

I think it is and heres why.

The M16 is the first assault rifle in the game. It's power rivals the M14's, it's range that of a sniper, it has no recoil from the hip and no recoil while aiming. It is a super weapon. It has immense bullet penetration as well. Then there's the MP5. The first SMG in the game. It has no recoil, it has the most range for a SMG and has high power, the only thing that makes the P90 rival it. Is that the P90 has a deap clip. These weapons would be fine if they were not the first weapons in the game. Everyone has them and everyone uses them. It's gay Either the M16 should have to be unlocked later or it should have this.

Inacuracy when shooting from the hip. Less short range accuracy, and some recoil while aiming down the sights. This would actually make it take some skill. The MP5 should also have to be unlocked unless this was it's attributes.

Recoil while aiming and shooting from the hip. Please recoil while aiming it's insane. And absolutely NO bullet penetration. Why you ask. Well because in real life it has no penetration. It uses pistol rounds. Big 9mm pistol rounds. I know that some of you might think then that ruins the game. And that is probably because those are the only weapons you have the ability to use. The easiest in the game. I think that these weapons are whats keeping CoD 4 back from being the best 360 online shooter. Just fix them and it will be. One more thing why does everyone brag about using the M16?

Hickamie14

In real life the MP5 can't penetrate because the big 9mm bullets don'y move fast enough. That is why the MP9 is replacing it. Second the M16 can't even fire in burst in real life you forgot that. Also the M16 should be worse in the game then what it is because in real life it jams and brakes very fast. They have no other way to make up for that. Also the G36 is better in thegame becasue it is better in real life. Don't come here and try to bring realism into this please. Because it get's you nowhere. Now the lower ranked players have the AK which is a effective weapon. And give them the UZI before the MP9. And if you really want put the M4 as the first AR in the game.

One last thing I in fact do not suck. My tag is Mogar the Great. I'm in third prestige lvl 55. My kill/death ratio is 1.51 and I could kick your ass any day.

Hickamie14

In real life the MP5 can't penetrate because the big 9mm bullets don'y move fast enough. That is why the MP9 is replacing it. Second the M16 can't even fire in burst in real life you forgot that. Also the M16 should be worse in the game then what it is because in real life it jams and brakes very fast. They have no other way to make up for that. Also the G36 is better in thegame becasue it is better in real life. Don't come here and try to bring realism into this please. Because it get's you nowhere. Now the lower ranked players have the AK which is a effective weapon. And give them the UZI before the MP9. And if you really want put the M4 as the first AR in the game.

One last thing I in fact do not suck. My tag is Mogar the Great. I'm in third prestige lvl 55. My kill/death ratio is 1.51 and I could kick your ass any day.

Hickamie14

Also M16 are very reliable and don't break as fast as you said they do only the ones that first came out around 1960 were very bad because they did not ship them with cleaning instructions and gear to clean them with and they did not have forward assist and a 9mm is more then enough to stop a man trust me i know i own a AR-15 and a 9mm pistol and have done plenty of research on what they can do to people.

I have shot over 1000+ rounds since this Christmas from my ar and it has not jammed on me yet so unless you own the gun or have used the gun you really know nothing about a ar15/m16 you need to look up more recent info on the gun before you say it sucks and it jams a lot.............why do you think the USA army is still using it let me guess because it jams a lot and it breaks..................go figure.

BTW TC the mp9 shoots 9mm bullets also.....................i wonder where you came up with that info and can you give me a link saying the g3 is better then the M16 in REAL LIFE.

seems like stupidity gets you know where either.

Dub you are a idiot. You said well the U.S army uses the M16 for a reason because it never jams. Okay have you not heard that the standard issue rifle for the U.S Military is being changed to the M4 Carbine for the very reason the the M16 jams, and has to be cleaned constantly? Well it is. How can you say that the M16 is better then the G3? Do YOU have proof? The G3 is a special operations assault rifle. It has far greater fire power as well. Next I would like to apologize for claiming that the M16 does not fire burst shots. I was wrong about that. Also I don't know how to put links on this page so I guess I can't provide proof. Also one more thing. How did you get a M16? Those are ileagel (don't know how to spell it, help me out?). It's called military grade weapons not allowed for citizens, plus it is a auotmatic rifle. Illeagel? Yes.

Almost forgot. I never said a MP5 could not shoot through someone. I said it could not shoot through thick walls. Probably not sheat metal either unless it is right up close. Because it uses 9mm bullets. At any type of range it can't penetrate. The bullets move to slow. I personally have never fired a M16 to answer your question, but two of my brothers-U.S. Military- have. I know quite a bit about the rifle. One more thing, Of course all modern rifles are going to be compared to the M16. It was the standered rifle since Vietnam.

Hickamie14

i also never said the M16 was better then the g3 i was just asking for your sources and you have still not given them to me. and i find it hard to believe your brothers were in the army if you thought a M4 was a completly different weapon then the M16 they both shoot 5.56 x 45 NATO ammo so there is no difference in the guns or ammo they are you using, so before you call someone an Idiot get your facts straight first.

BTW WIKI is your friend M16......... AR15....M4.

As you can see there all the same rifle oh so smart one.................lol

The AR-15 was eventually adopted by the United States military under the designation M16.

Once the AR-15 was modified, troops trained, and a new type of ball powder used, the rifle gradually became more and more reliable. As with other older weapons systems, the rifle has steadily been improved as minor changes in the firearm have been made until today the AR-15 is the most reliable rifle being manufactured.

LINK

you can also find alot of websites saying this so like i said get your facts straight.

Wow stop sending me messages. Keep the argument in here Dub.

These rules are very accurate, and they especially apply to Cod4, rule 3 sumes up what this noob is saying...

http://www.destructoid.com/ten-golden-rules-of-online-gaming-64474.phtml

Just wanted to say that he M4 and the M16 are the same basically the same, only the m4 isa carbine. They both require the same maintenance, they both can be equipped with the picatinny rail system so can have the same attachements. Dont research the A2, that is old. Only nasty girls use those. most regular army (non pogs) use the A4.

P.S Who cares when who gets what. Use what you like and have fun

I've whooped plenty of people who use the M-16. It's basically skill when It comes down to it, I have a couple of friends that can't use the M-16 worth sh*t and can kick a** with the M14 and G3.

And for the most part, the person who gets the drop first and has at-least some type of accuracy will get the kill. It's not like other games where you can duck and dodge fighting back in gun battles.

Yng-ePIc

I always use the M-16, I know for a damn fact that I am damn good with the G3, though suck badly with m14.

Having the M16 early evens the playing field i think. It allows noobs to compete with people of a higher rank right off the bat without being owned because their weapons are inferior.DZBricktop

I agree. But I dont like the word 'noob' being used. Let's call them new players, lol. I think the weapons are balanced. It's not all about weapons. It's about how quick your reflexes are, if you're constantly moving. It takes skill, not just weapon. I was in a match where one guy that was demolition, won. And I'm sure at least half of us were using M16. I'm totally new to the game and I just hit rank 17, last night. I've been playing for about 3-4 hours total. And I have no problem hanging with the big boys ranked 35+. All my training from counter-strike helped. And it could be that more than 50% of my Xbox 360 library are shooters. I do well with MP5, M4, and M16. Some games, using the M16, I fall to like 5 place. Sometimes I'm # 1. Sometimes, I'm not really great with a certain map. Consistency and skill, my friend. Thanks for reading.