Is Call of Duty good because it's easy?

This concerns Call of Duty's multiplayer. I've come across some PC gamers that call the game "easy", and I'm tempted to agree with them.

This is a game in which the noobiest of the noobs can kill the best of the best with just a spot of luck. A game in which the noobiest of the noobs can (with a little talent) become one of the best in a month, because that's all the time it takes to learn the few intricacies within the game; grenade spots and choke points, which perks are great, which suck, claymore placing, etc, etc. The game is easy to learn and easy to master, at least when compared to games like TF2 and Gears of War (both of which I dislike, by the way).

Is it really okay that the level 1 whose butt you kicked today might kick your butt the month after?

This concerns Call of Duty's multiplayer. I've come across some PC gamers that call the game "easy", and I'm tempted to agree with them.

This is a game in which the noobiest of the noobs can kill the best of the best with just a spot of luck. A game in which the noobiest of the noobs can (with a little talent) become one of the best in a month, because that's all the time it takes to learn the few intricacies within the game; grenade spots and choke points, which perks are great, which suck, claymore placing, etc, etc. The game is easy to learn and easy to master, at least when compared to games like TF2 and Gears of War (both of which I dislike, by the way).

Is it really okay that the level 1 whose butt you kicked today might kick your butt the month after?

Making_Pudding

[QUOTE="Making_Pudding"]

Logan1616

I haven't noticed that many glitchers on TF2 but there's a few. Anyway i think overall it's too easy to kill and get killed. I thought it was a fun game for a while but it just became so annoying. Dying by random grenades and non-stop three bullets to kill you. I had fun for around 200 hours which was great but afterwards it just got too annoying to enjoy.

FAILvp22

How's what he said "fail" why can't people at least give reasons? Well guess what your fail fails.

[QUOTE="vp22"]FAILcraigalan23

How's what he said "fail" why can't people at least give reasons? Well guess what your fail fails.

Dont care. Divert all the noobs to cod to easy kill eachother. so the rest of us can play halo and gears in skilled peace. Hitch_Blade_VII

[QUOTE="vp22"]FAILcraigalan23

How's what he said "fail" why can't people at least give reasons? Well guess what your fail fails.

It's because all you have to do is put mp40 and put juggernaut on and no matter what your skill level is you'll own. Still a great game although it can be frustrating online, but all games are.

[QUOTE="Hitch_Blade_VII"]Dont care. Divert all the noobs to cod to easy kill eachother. so the rest of us can play halo and gears in skilled peace. JohnnySN1P3R

Its an easy game to pick up and simple fun. It is true its pretty easy, ive notice lots of my freinds 1st time they played, there score was not bad.

This concerns Call of Duty's multiplayer. I've come across some PC gamers that call the game "easy", and I'm tempted to agree with them.

This is a game in which the noobiest of the noobs can kill the best of the best with just a spot of luck. A game in which the noobiest of the noobs can (with a little talent) become one of the best in a month, because that's all the time it takes to learn the few intricacies within the game; grenade spots and choke points, which perks are great, which suck, claymore placing, etc, etc. The game is easy to learn and easy to master, at least when compared to games like TF2 and Gears of War (both of which I dislike, by the way).

Is it really okay that the level 1 whose butt you kicked today might kick your butt the month after?

Making_Pudding

It is easy to get a kill in CoD4. It isn't as easy to get streaks.

I find it odd that people enjoy TF2 so much. That has to be the most balance issues of any online game I have played to date.

[QUOTE="Hitch_Blade_VII"]Dont care. Divert all the noobs to cod to easy kill eachother. so the rest of us can play halo and gears in skilled peace. JohnnySN1P3R

um... yes. It does require a lot more skill to kill good players in halo than it does in CoD... A really good player can win most of his/her confrontations regardless of wether he see's the other player first or not... In CoD, anyone who can fire the weapon has a good chance of killing a far more experienced player... the same can't be said for halo.

Okay, umm...Maybe I wasn't clear as to what the purpose of this post was, so let me clarify for the cavemen in the audience. The point I'm trying to make here isn't a positive one, but it isn't a negative one. The fact that these games are so simple is both a blessing and a curse. Let's draw up a little scenario here, shall we? Bear with me. So, here's Toasty Peanut. He's a level 1 on Call of Duty 4, but dreams of someday being a level 2. Naturally, he knows how to shoot and aim, but lacks experience as to which routes enemies are bound to take, where enemies spawn, and how to throw grenades correctly. He goes into his very first Team Deathmatch. It's on Crash. He rushes out, past the blue house and is stopped dead by a grenade. Intrigued, he looks at his kill cam. Someone threw a grenade over a dumpster and it just so happened to hit him as he was running. He takes a mental note. He proceeds to get his butt handed to him for the rest of the match and ends up with 1 kill and 16 deaths. He was lucky to find a level 18 facing a different direction, so he took the shot and killed him, giving him his only kill of the match. He decides to go play some Search and Destroy, which sounds interesting. A few matches later, Crash comes up again. This time, he's on the Marine side. He remembers the grenade over the dumpster, so he decides to try it out for himself. He lobs a crazy grenade over it and waits. 2 seconds pass. Boom. 3 kills. He thanks the heavens. He just killed that dumb level 29 that kept killing him last match and two new guys not unlike himself. Glory is his at last. The moral of the story? There is no moral to the story. It was my experience in Call of Duty 4 with my first gamertag, one year ago. I killed 3 people that I otherwise would have had no chance against by using a cheap tactic. "Easy" can become "cheap" really quickly, and that's the one thing that bothers me about these games.Making_Pudding

Um yeah, that isn't because the game is "easy" it is because you were playing agains inexperienced players. So yes, I guess in so far as the skill level of the other team goes the game is easy. Had you been playing against people who knew what they were doing you would have only wasted a prefectly good grenade.

Now the grenade launcher is kinda (or was kinda, it has been a while) silly but every FPS has something cheap like that honestly. It is just something you have to decide to deal with and enjoy the otherwise great game or walk away.

um... yes. It does require a lot more skill to kill good players in halo than it does in CoD... A really good player can win most of his/her confrontations regardless of wether he see's the other player first or not... In CoD, anyone who can fire the weapon has a good chance of killing a far more experienced player... the same can't be said for halo.

a55a55inx

In Halo your internet connection determines your skill. Aside form the auto-aim BS, being host equals the god of gamers.

Yea I know what you mean. That's why I don't play those anymore.

I play the more skillful games like Gears of War 1 and 2, Guitar Hero Series, Rock Band, Fighting Games, or Strategy games like Age of Empires III.

I hate it when people think they're good at games like CoD and Halo games. They take minimal skill!

Okay, umm...Maybe I wasn't clear as to what the purpose of this post was, so let me clarify for the cavemen in the audience. The point I'm trying to make here isn't a positive one, but it isn't a negative one. The fact that these games are so simple is both a blessing and a curse. Let's draw up a little scenario here, shall we? Bear with me. So, here's Toasty Peanut. He's a level 1 on Call of Duty 4, but dreams of someday being a level 2. Naturally, he knows how to shoot and aim, but lacks experience as to which routes enemies are bound to take, where enemies spawn, and how to throw grenades correctly. He goes into his very first Team Deathmatch. It's on Crash. He rushes out, past the blue house and is stopped dead by a grenade. Intrigued, he looks at his kill cam. Someone threw a grenade over a dumpster and it just so happened to hit him as he was running. He takes a mental note. He proceeds to get his butt handed to him for the rest of the match and ends up with 1 kill and 16 deaths. He was lucky to find a level 18 facing a different direction, so he took the shot and killed him, giving him his only kill of the match. He decides to go play some Search and Destroy, which sounds interesting. A few matches later, Crash comes up again. This time, he's on the Marine side. He remembers the grenade over the dumpster, so he decides to try it out for himself. He lobs a crazy grenade over it and waits. 2 seconds pass. Boom. 3 kills. He thanks the heavens. He just killed that dumb level 29 that kept killing him last match and two new guys not unlike himself. Glory is his at last. The moral of the story? There is no moral to the story. It was my experience in Call of Duty 4 with my first gamertag, one year ago. I killed 3 people that I otherwise would have had no chance against by using a cheap tactic. "Easy" can become "cheap" really quickly, and that's the one thing that bothers me about these games.Making_Pudding

Okay, umm...Maybe I wasn't clear as to what the purpose of this post was, so let me clarify for the cavemen in the audience. The point I'm trying to make here isn't a positive one, but it isn't a negative one. The fact that these games are so simple is both a blessing and a curse. Let's draw up a little scenario here, shall we? Bear with me. So, here's Toasty Peanut. He's a level 1 on Call of Duty 4, but dreams of someday being a level 2. Naturally, he knows how to shoot and aim, but lacks experience as to which routes enemies are bound to take, where enemies spawn, and how to throw grenades correctly. He goes into his very first Team Deathmatch. It's on Crash. He rushes out, past the blue house and is stopped dead by a grenade. Intrigued, he looks at his kill cam. Someone threw a grenade over a dumpster and it just so happened to hit him as he was running. He takes a mental note. He proceeds to get his butt handed to him for the rest of the match and ends up with 1 kill and 16 deaths. He was lucky to find a level 18 facing a different direction, so he took the shot and killed him, giving him his only kill of the match. He decides to go play some Search and Destroy, which sounds interesting. A few matches later, Crash comes up again. This time, he's on the Marine side. He remembers the grenade over the dumpster, so he decides to try it out for himself. He lobs a crazy grenade over it and waits. 2 seconds pass. Boom. 3 kills. He thanks the heavens. He just killed that dumb level 29 that kept killing him last match and two new guys not unlike himself. Glory is his at last. The moral of the story? There is no moral to the story. It was my experience in Call of Duty 4 with my first gamertag, one year ago. I killed 3 people that I otherwise would have had no chance against by using a cheap tactic. "Easy" can become "cheap" really quickly, and that's the one thing that bothers me about these games.Making_Pudding

Shouldn't the level 29 know not to run through that area to avoid the grenade toss?

[QUOTE="a55a55inx"]

um... yes. It does require a lot more skill to kill good players in halo than it does in CoD... A really good player can win most of his/her confrontations regardless of wether he see's the other player first or not... In CoD, anyone who can fire the weapon has a good chance of killing a far more experienced player... the same can't be said for halo.

anevilMONK3Y

In Halo your internet connection determines your skill. Aside form the auto-aim BS, being host equals the god of gamers.

To be honest, I can't tell who is the host most of the time in Halo 3. It was pretty easy to spot in halo 2, but this time around, I see very little host advantage(if any),and since hosts are chosen at random, why is it that I can win most of the games I play? ( I mean, I know my internet connection isn't that great to be determined as the host every match)Plus, auto-aim exists on most fps games on the 360, including CoD...

I can understand that if you don't play halo 3 that much and remain playing against lower level individuals, it may seem as if there is no skill required to play, but once you reach the higher ranked players, perfecting the BR and Sniper rifle become necessary

[QUOTE="Making_Pudding"]

This concerns Call of Duty's multiplayer. I've come across some PC gamers that call the game "easy", and I'm tempted to agree with them.

This is a game in which the noobiest of the noobs can kill the best of the best with just a spot of luck. A game in which the noobiest of the noobs can (with a little talent) become one of the best in a month, because that's all the time it takes to learn the few intricacies within the game; grenade spots and choke points, which perks are great, which suck, claymore placing, etc, etc. The game is easy to learn and easy to master, at least when compared to games like TF2 and Gears of War (both of which I dislike, by the way).

Is it really okay that the level 1 whose butt you kicked today might kick your butt the month after?

Logan1616

Yes, its an easy game, because most people that play it are doing it wrong. People play CoD4 like a run and gun shooter, when its not designed that way. The twitch gameplay and the fact that every weapon is pretty much 1 hit kill, are signs that the game is meant to be a tactical shooter.

Essentially, if you encounter another player, it comes down to who sees the other first and fires first. Sure, some accuracy is required, by its not of critical importance, like it is in a game like Halo. But most people don't have the patience to play the game using tactics and patience. When they spawn, they are eager to engage the enemy as quickly as possible.

Thats why if you use your brain, play with patience and a little bit of caution, you can straight up dominate an entire team. Things like airstrikes and the helicopter runs are supposed to be rare, but if you play a public game, they are pretty much nonstop. The entire idea behind the game is holding certain strategic points (high ground, choke points, whatever), which give you an advantage over the other team. Its not camping, its not to be looked down upon. Camping is when you hide in an obscure area where you have the element of surprise and thus can easily get the drop on the player who stumbles upon you. In Cod4 anyone who plays the game, KNOWS where the ideal places are.

Compare this to a game like Halo or Resistance or TF2. All of these games are quite different from each other, but they all take more skill than CoD4. In these games, encounters with other players comes down to skill, its based on your weapon accuracy (usually headshots) and assessing the situation and using the appropriate weapon and tactics to win. In these games, if you get the drop on the other player, it doesn't neccessarily mean you'll kill him. Better players are capable of being caught off guard, recovering, and killing their opponent (this is not always the case of course, you can't really recover from getting hit by a rocket for example). In a game like CoD4, since weapon damage is so high, if you are surprised, you can't recover, because you are already dead.

This isn't a bashing of CoD4, its just a different type of game, thats all. Some people enjoy its accessibility, while other FPS fans enjoy games where you have to put in the hours and the effort to become good at the game.

Yes, its an easy game, because most people that play it are doing it wrong. People play CoD4 like a run and gun shooter, when its not designed that way. The twitch gameplay and the fact that every weapon is pretty much 1 hit kill, are signs that the game is meant to be a tactical shooter.

Essentially, if you encounter another player, it comes down to who sees the other first and fires first. Sure, some accuracy is required, by its not of critical importance, like it is in a game like Halo. But most people don't have the patience to play the game using tactics and patience. When they spawn, they are eager to engage the enemy as quickly as possible.

Thats why if you use your brain, play with patience and a little bit of caution, you can straight up dominate an entire team. Things like airstrikes and the helicopter runs are supposed to be rare, but if you play a public game, they are pretty much nonstop. The entire idea behind the game is holding certain strategic points (high ground, choke points, whatever), which give you an advantage over the other team. Its not camping, its not to be looked down upon. Camping is when you hide in an obscure area where you have the element of surprise and thus can easily get the drop on the player who stumbles upon you. In Cod4 anyone who plays the game, KNOWS where the ideal places are.

Compare this to a game like Halo or Resistance or TF2. All of these games are quite different from each other, but they all take more skill than CoD4. In these games, encounters with other players comes down to skill, its based on your weapon accuracy (usually headshots) and assessing the situation and using the appropriate weapon and tactics to win. In these games, if you get the drop on the other player, it doesn't neccessarily mean you'll kill him. Better players are capable of being caught off guard, recovering, and killing their opponent (this is not always the case of course, you can't really recover from getting hit by a rocket for example). In a game like CoD4, since weapon damage is so high, if you are surprised, you can't recover, because you are already dead.

This isn't a bashing of CoD4, its just a different type of game, thats all. Some people enjoy its accessibility, while other FPS fans enjoy games where you have to put in the hours and the effort to become good at the game.

Cloud_Insurance