Is halo revolutionary?

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#1 Justin021
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This is not really a forum, as it is a rant.  It seems that everytime I look in the player reviews for a FPS, it is always compared to a "Halo wanna be".  Now don't get me wrong I think the Halo games are very solid, fun games; my wife and I use to play them online all the time.  So I'm not bashing the quality of the game or anything. I just am wondering why other games are classified as "wanna bes".    What is revolutinary about halo?  

Is it head shots?                                                 No, 007 for the N64 had those

dual weilding weapons?                                        Again 007 for N64

Sheilds?                                                             Fps has always have had sheilds/body armor

Vehicles in midlevel?                                           Red faction had those

stealing vehicles?                                               GTA 3

A guide (the hologram chick)                               No, alot of Fps have had "base" guide you.

I can go on and on.  Now I'm not saying taking ideas from other games is bad.  That is what makes a good game;  you take what works and add to it.  There is nothing wrong with that. I also aknowledge that Halo also had exceptional A.I back in the day. 

I know I'm probally going to be crucified by the some of the gaming community for this write up, I'm just wondering what is the justification of comparing every Fps to Halo.

I welcome you to defend your beliefs, I'm open minded.  Please keep this mature if you challange my ideas.  Saying phrases like, "If you don't think that Halo is revolutinay, your a dumba** that needs to quit playing", doesn' t sway my feelings any and does not defend your point. 

           

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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#2 ikwal
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I agree with you, there is nothing revelotionary about Halo. I believe it might was one of the first console shooters that had good controlls and stuff, Im not sure since Im not a console shooter fan. Halo didn't really impress me at all because I was use to playing PC-shooters which already was really good. The Halo games are still good and Im planing on picking up the third one when it's released.
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#3 gothrckr
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I know what your'e saying. I have already had this conversation with my friends. I think it is just the fact that Halo was one of the first really realistic looking FPS's and, like the other guy said, it had really good, smooth controls compared to games before it.
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#4 Quadster
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HARDLY!!
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#5 -ZeRoHouR-
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The thing about Halo is it never did actually revolutionize games, it just took past ideas and implemented them well into one game.
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#6 RipaX21
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The reason that eveyone loves Halo is because it has all of those elements that you listed above, plus others, in one game.  And more so it does it very well and is a very polished game.  Halo is not so much revoltionary as it is evolutionary.  However, I agree that people should stop comparing other games to Halo and just except them for what they are.  Developers understand that if you want to play Halo, then thats what you will play.  Why would they try to make and indentical game?
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#7 03mareed
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I wouldnt say Revolutionary but awesome kick a$$ fun

I hope Halo 3 beats them all put together what am i saying?

OF COURSE IT WILL! 

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#8 JohnTheGamer
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The thing about Halo is it never did actually revolutionize games, it just took past ideas and implemented them well into one game.-ZeRoHouR-

Darnit! You said it before me

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#9 black_awpN1
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It didnt reinvent the whell, it just put a tire on it. :)
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#10 FearlessSpirit
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It never was revolutionairy. It was more like one of the first console games to get FPS right. It was actually the first console FPS to get everything right. Even Goldeneye had it's flaws. So it wasn't really anything special for what it was. There were loads of on-par or better FPS games out for PC at the time. But it was just that it was the first to actually do it correctly.
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#11 jorgeluis
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Halo taked the !st person shooters to the other level this game probably its the bets 1st person shooter ever competing with 007 and this was the 1st FPS thath you could see the legs ahahah also the controls were great.
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#12 Sully28
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It did what 007 did to the n64. It gave the mainstream a game that alot of people could like. There are tons of games out there that are equal and better than halo, its just not all of them are mainstream or appeal to everyone.
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#13 wreak
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ya that one guy said it best, it wasn't so much of a revolution as an evolution, simply because it took different things from other fps's and made them better and all work togethor in one game. plus on top of that they are very well made and very polished games. if it did revolutionise anything, it's the idea of the ranked matchmaking system and customizabilitie of MP. i don't think anyone has every made anything like that since halo and thats just kinda sad caus it just works so well.
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#14 ag1002
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Halo rocks.  I can't think of a better multiplayer game, and it gave the best singleplayer FPS experience on the xbox FIRST.
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#15 ieatredclay
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No DUKE NUKEM was revolutionary - Humor action women

half-life was revolutionary - AI that actually had Intelligence.

Halo was simply Rehash material...but it was at the right time with the right venue. Halo was a New Dog doing the same old tricks with a newer outfit. 

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#16 xTheExploited
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It was just an all around really good and fun game. I wouldn't say Halo took anything from Red Faction because it came out after the first one a few months after it. They wouldn't of had that much time to take something and plant it into the game.
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#17 Velric
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Halo was not revolutionary. It was just one of the few stand out FPS games to grace a console. The fact that it was only reason to own an original Xbox is what gave it the popularity it has today.
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#18 SicsStringFreak
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halo is revolutionary for dual analog use on fps for consoles and was the first one to do it right,

second halo has an excellent story, the games only tell half of it though.

it has a mood unlike many many games now adays like gta.

anyone remember diablo, parasite eve, C&C, starcraft, final fantasy 7, silent hill, duke nukem. these games had moods to them, had a little somethign that just drew you into the game, and halo has that same thing for me, and for millions of other gamers.

it has great music that goes with the game they put alot of quality in the music and sound.

the weapons are relative to a lot of gamers. 

but bungie atleast is taking the time to make a great game instead of rush the crap out like all the damn call of dutys. 3 have been either announced or relased in a year and a half.

 

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#19 SicsStringFreak
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No DUKE NUKEM was revolutionary - Humor action women

half-life was revolutionary - AI that actually had Intelligence.

Halo was simply Rehash material...but it was at the right time with the right venue. Halo was a New Dog doing the same old tricks with a newer outfit. 

ieatredclay

halo is revolutionary for dual analog use on fps for consoles and was the first one to do it right,

second halo has an excellent story, the games only tell half of it though.

it has a mood unlike many many games now adays like gta.

anyone remember diablo, parasite eve, C&C, starcraft, final fantasy 7, silent hill, duke nukem. these games had moods to them, had a little somethign that just drew you into the game, and halo has that same thing for me, and for millions of other gamers.

it has great music that goes with the game they put alot of quality in the music and sound.

the weapons are relative to a lot of gamers. 

but bungie atleast is taking the time to make a great game instead of rush the crap out like all the damn call of dutys. 3 have been either announced or relased in a year and a half.

 

SicsStringFreak

i love halo but i can see why people dont like it, because i cant stand gta

but other people like it.

 

but this goes for every one, 8 times out of 10 the reason someone does not like a game is because they suck at it.  not just halo but all games. and or someone does not like a game because their peers do not. same as music people dont listen to music for themselves anymore, they listen to what they think their peers like to fit in. thats why music made here in america is extremely dwindleing. that and mtv and vh1 killed it way before nabster. mtv use to play whats popular, then they went to making "certain" music popular, then went the whole realilty show route.

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#20 Private_Vegas
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Nope, not really. Halo hasn't really innovated the FPS, but there is something about it. It's like you're master of your destiny, and there are hundreds of tactics you can implement at any stage in the level, or on multiplayer. A lot of other FPS's it just seems that there is a wrong and a right way to do everything. In Halo there are just right ways, that can be poorly executed.... I dunno, it's hard to put my finger on it, let alone describe it.
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#21 mariokart64fan
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no way i also think halo is very uber . goldeneye 007 was the best , the closest games to that are perfect dark 1 and timesplitters they also have alot of value halo doesnt
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#22 hitmanlee
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Halo is definatly not revolutionary. The thing so wonderful about it, is that the multiplayer elements are just all combined together, and work so well together. It's just skill in knowing about what everybody wants in a multiplayer game.
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#23 SicsStringFreak
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there are alot of opinions in here, and everyone i see has their own. but nobody in here is wrong in that opinion, i believe halo was revolutionary,

and none of you have the right to say i dont know what im talking about, for i have been a gamer since pong, longer than most of the people in this forum and have played countless games and destroyed galaxies, and halo has something that most games nowadays do not have, and immersive mood. depth, sure some games have better graphics or the ability to do something new, or use a new weapon, but most new games lack depth, and i say new covering everything from 2001 to now. atleast some of these newly annouced games comming out have potential to have that depth. and i think some will deliver, like mass effect, and huxley, and halo3, but their are others as well, like lost oddyssy, but that is merely hope and assumption not fact.

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#24 sameiamcramram
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your looking in the wrong places to find your anwser.

Halo is absolutly a revolutionary game, not because of duel wielding or shields but more because of the almost mathmatically perfect damage mechanics, online "parties" and extremley custimizeable game options as well as its matchmaking systems. Its more revolutionary in the way that diffrent parts of the game interact with each other and can be used togather, such as in 007 if you had duelies u were unstopable but in halo if you use gernades and ure envirnment correctly you can stop some one dead in there tracks even if they have two smg's or plasma rifles or what have you. as well as the fact that jumping in to a vehicle is almost a seemless transition as apposed to red faction. Even the menuverability is revolutionary because of how you can use it in diffrent ways to achieve diffrent things depending on your situation. but even more importantly what they hit right on the head was the aiming system where the crosshair almost "sticks" to your target making it alot easier to aim with a controller as apposed to a mouse. in short halo is a very revolutionary game by addind suttle features that work with one and other and pulling in all the other mechanics that make a great shooter perfectly.

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#25 ThrillhouseLive
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You people are forgetting about the unmatched coop mode.   Before I found out about XBconnect, all i ever played was coop.  It had hours of entertainment in it.  It was all tactical action too, no jumping puzzles.  That made it awesome.  Then when i started playing XBconnect, that game got even better. 

 It is revolutionary.  The controls, the story, the action, the polish all made it the best game of last gen.

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#26 sameiamcramram
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btw the ingame chat is extremley revolutionary where people around you can hear you talking including the other team and if you wanna talk to ure team mate who is on the other side of the board u have to press a "radio" button that even makes clicks, and fades ure voice out in to static as ure talking if you die
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#27 SicsStringFreak
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your looking in the wrong places to find your anwser.

Halo is absolutly a revolutionary game, not because of duel wielding or shields but more because of the almost mathmatically perfect damage mechanics, online "parties" and extremley custimizeable game options as well as its matchmaking systems. Its more revolutionary in the way that diffrent parts of the game interact with each other and can be used togather, such as in 007 if you had duelies u were unstopable but in halo if you use gernades and ure envirnment correctly you can stop some one dead in there tracks even if they have two smg's or plasma rifles or what have you. as well as the fact that jumping in to a vehicle is almost a seemless transition as apposed to red faction. Even the menuverability is revolutionary because of how you can use it in diffrent ways to achieve diffrent things depending on your situation. but even more importantly what they hit right on the head was the aiming system where the crosshair almost "sticks" to your target making it alot easier to aim with a controller as apposed to a mouse. in short halo is a very revolutionary game by addind suttle features that work with one and other and pulling in all the other mechanics that make a great shooter perfectly.

sameiamcramram

i would not say halo has perfect mechanics for anything, but it does have better than most. i dont like the rectical stick to targets on halo, and the mouse and keyboard myth is that a myth, it has the potential to be faster, but i can promise you this i will destroy many of a pc gamer on their keyboards and mouse, with my 360 controller. believe that.

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#28 davidtabor5
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Halo 1 was the first FPS that you could drive vehicals in and I think it was was the first game that ran at 60 fps
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#29 wanker12
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it was more of a refinement of the genre, so not particularly revolutionary. imo a revolutionary fps would be one that introduces something new like deus ex or system shock.
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#30 bobbysox0070
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I think what makes it revolutionary is the culmination of all those things

- dual wielding

- head shots

- energy sword (sword lock in first person)

- sniper (4x 12*x zoom) - *could be 8 or 10 i forget

- boarding vehicles

- 3rd person vehicle controls in a 1st person game

- co-op split-screen

- voice chat

- melee with weapons without having to switch to your hand or a crowbar or something

- sticky grenades

- use of regular grenades without having to switch weapons

- radar

- crouch walking making you invisible to radar

- over-shield and invisibility

- unmatched party system

- tanks, warthogs and ghosts

- weapon balance

- regenerating health shield system so that you don't have to go looking for health packs

The culmination of all of these things is what makes halo so great, not any one revolutionary thing, kinda like devastator on the transformers, individually they were OK robots that transformed into work vehicles but together they were a force to be reckoned with

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#31 Teroza49
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OO7 ! now that was fun

played it alot with friends on the n64, along with perfect dark

oh, en for the topic, i just know halo is a great game, and it doesn't interest me how it got so great. Just look at the result and love it !

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#32 sonofabear17
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Like ppl before me said it took all the good elements of other games and incorperated them all in to one game. It also had a few original ideas
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#33 SicsStringFreak
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Halo 1 was the first FPS that you could drive vehicals in and I think it was was the first game that ran at 60 fps davidtabor5
sorry halo was not the first to drive vehichles in game fps, second there were several games that ran at 60 fps, before halo.  not to degrade halo for i love it, but those two bits of information are not correct.
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#34 Justin021
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These are all great points so far, thanks for your opinions and feedback

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#35 gatsbythepig
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It's not revolutionary, it was just implemented better than every other FPS.  The regenerating shield is really what made it better than every other game.
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#36 mother_farter
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nothing is revolutionary about halo..its just one of those games that happend to become popular because of gameplay and the type of multiplayer it has.
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#37 KniferHitandRun
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The thing about Halo is it never did actually revolutionize games, it just took past ideas and implemented them well into one game.-ZeRoHouR-

Absolutely right. Halo was NOT revolutionary, as you pointed out that games already had those features. What made Halo so defining was the seamless and perfect blend of all aspects, from weapon balance (though the 2 weapon idea was new and certainly did change the genre), to the balanced vehicle incorporation, to outstanding AI, to great co-op (still my favorite of all time), to insanely fun and relatively simple LAN parties (for the time), to great gameplay (perfect blend of fun and challenge), and finally, to great graphics (though this is probably its weakest aspect). Oh yeah, and the campaign music is sick!

But yeah, Halo was just the best put together and most polished FPS shooter. 

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#38 SicsStringFreak
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[QUOTE="-ZeRoHouR-"]The thing about Halo is it never did actually revolutionize games, it just took past ideas and implemented them well into one game.KniferHitandRun

Absolutely right. Halo was NOT revolutionary, as you pointed out that games already had those features. What made Halo so defining was the seamless and perfect blend of all aspects, from weapon balance (though the 2 weapon idea was new and certainly did change the genre), to the balanced vehicle incorporation, to outstanding AI, to great co-op (still my favorite of all time), to insanely fun and relatively simple LAN parties (for the time), to great gameplay (perfect blend of fun and challenge), and finally, to great graphics (though this is probably its weakest aspect). Oh yeah, and the campaign music is sick!

But yeah, Halo was just the best put together and most polished FPS shooter. 

lol that makes it revolutionary by definition. think about it, for a game to finally have all those features and have them blend so well is a revolution in its self, so technically is halo revolutionary very much so, lol you guys need to look a term or two up one day,.