Is mass effect 3 ending that bad?

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#1 Tehspooner
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i've played ME1 and ME2, but because of the bad talk of the ending of ME3 i don't really wanna ruin what has been one of my favourite game stories.. is it worth playing?

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#2 Venom951
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i've played ME1 and ME2, but because of the bad talk of the ending of ME3 i don't really wanna ruin what has been one of my favourite game stories.. is it worth playing?

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#3 SPYDER0416
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The ending is one I actually liked, but its not super objectively bad, just polarizing and a bit ambiguous.

If you've played the first two then its definitely worth it, since you get to see the culmination of your choices all add up here.

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#4 Seanscottuk
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Hmm, see I adored ME1 and ME2 favourite games of this generation, and I really liked ME3 till the ending, however, even with the poor and odd ending, the rest of the game is awesome, and you should play it.

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#5 KeredsBlaze
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the game is almost flawless in every other regard, you need to play it, the ending gets too much hate anyways from ppl who want rainbows and sunshine endings
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#6 MW2ismygame
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while it may not be worth an award by far, people over exaggerate to extremes, the game its self is amazing, with just the ending as one of the very very few blemishes

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#7 LordRork
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The last 10 minutes just leave you a little underwhelmed and slightly confused. The previous 34 hours, 50 minutes are excellent.

And since I'm currently playing through ME2 again (after playing ME1), some of the choices at the end don't seem as completely unexpected as when they're first presented.

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#8 Jaysonguy
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since you get to see the culmination of your choices all add up here.

SPYDER0416

Nope, you're 100% wrong here

That's why so many people are upset.

You can play Mass Effect 3 as a stand alone title and get just as much out of it as someone who played all 3

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the game is almost flawless in every other regard, you need to play it, the ending gets too much hate anyways from ppl who want rainbows and sunshine endingsKeredsBlaze
Why do so many people think that the problem was that there wasn't a happy ending? An ending can be sad and depressing, or even rage-inducing, yet still be satisfying and have good resolution. ME3's ending opened plot holes that weren't there before, didn't take your prior choices into account, and had no real resolution to anything. The ending is the last impression you have with something, and a bad ending leaves a sour taste. I haven't touched the game since I beat it; not even multiplayer or those last 4 achievements interest me. :(
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#10 theonlylolking
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Makes all of your choices pointless.
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#11 dj_pulserfan
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the game is almost flawless in every other regard, you need to play it, the ending gets too much hate anyways from ppl who want rainbows and sunshine endingsKeredsBlaze


They introduced a Deus Ex Machina to end a trilogy that was centered predominantly on making choices, and those choices leading to lasting impact. Instead, what we got was this "God"/AI where it directs Shepard to screw everyone over no matter the choice. In Mass Effect 1 & 2, our choices actually influenced the ending. In Mass Effect 3, it didn't even close the franchise, it just brought a contrived end to the war to end all wars all without even allowing us to see where our Shepard's path impacted an entire inter-galactic war.

We don't get to see what happened to the Krogan. Or how the Quarian and Geth got along after ending a 300+ year war. The clean-up after everyone on the space-citadel was outright slaughtered. What about destroying the Mass-Relay points? Didn't they already establish in DLC that if they were to blow you'd literally blow up a chunk of galaxy? The quarian can't rebuild with no access to supplies. The Krogan will essentially die out with no access to scientist to help clean Tuchanka's atmosphere.

What the hell happened to Shepard? Did they not realize by destroying the only link for planetary transport they're going to slowly kill off every species anyway? Let's not forget that machines which traveled billions of lightyears away just came to wreck our galaxy and we don't even know what happened to them. You don't really go about rebuilding galactic civilization with no access to resources. The list will go on and on and on.

There isn't any closure and it's just lazy. Nothing about any ending seems right and nearly everyone has come to a conclusion that we feel like we wasted our time. I know the underlying story is about sacrifice, the importance friends and reliable allies, the overall journey of HOW we got there, But what Bioware did was well beyond a slap in the face. I know writing in video-games isn't exactly going to be stacking up to Notes from Underground or War & Peace anytime soon and our Fallout 2, Planescape Torments, Sanitariums and Silent Hill 2's are few and far between. But when you manage to have people on board that were penning some great books and veteran writers it REALLY makes you wonder how the hell those endings happened.

I'm NOT going on record to say the entierty of Mass Effect 3 was a terrible game because of it's ending. But when you look at the writing, the gameplay, the set pieces and art direction were all improved over the original two to a great degree but there is no way you can somehow justify what they did to completely sour the experience for nearly everyone during those last 10 minutes.

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#12 SPYDER0416
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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

since you get to see the culmination of your choices all add up here.

Jaysonguy

Nope, you're 100% wrong here

That's why so many people are upset.

You can play Mass Effect 3 as a stand alone title and get just as much out of it as someone who played all 3

I disagree, the various appearances and even the tiniest things show up here from the past.

People can complain about the ending, but the game does a pretty great job taking even the smallest decisions you could have made two games ago and making them present in some way. Whether its an email, or a full blown side mission you wouldn't otherwise get, people who have played the previous two can definitely get some more out of this.

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#13 genius2365
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It just leaves you with a big ''What just happened?!'' in your head. Not bad, but not good, as I describe it. It doesn't ruin the trilogy. Plus, we have the Extended Cut on the way, with plenty of characters (squadmates included) to do voice work. It should fix a few things I have problems with the ending
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#14 Sportyfamilycar
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I stopped after the first Mass Effect,

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#15 sir_lancelot_b
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It was a fitting end.

What truly leaves a sour taste is the general revolt demanding an ending that spells everything out word for word and takes into account the countless choices you've made. What would have killed it for me is a 30 minute ending reminding me of every decision I've made throughout the trilogy; that is just unrealistic. The way I see it, all the choices allowed you to get to that final moment during which you either choose to embrace the Reapers or to get rid of them.

I will not comment on the plotholes as I suspect the extended cut DLC wiill resolve some/most/all of them.

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#16 wcleung9
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It's really that bad.

Because it failed on so many different aspects.

When some say it's OK to have plot holes, they forgot about the lack of closure.

When some say it's OK to be ambiguous, they forgot about Bioware's false advertisment.

When some say it's common for game developers to trash talk, they forgot about all player choices became pointless.

When some say the ending can't be so long to reflect all your decisions, they forgot about Shepard's broken character in the last conversation scene.

When some say it's in fact natural for Shepard to act like that, they forgot about how illogical the Reaper's truth is.

When some say it's just beyond your comprehension, they forgot the sudden change of the game's main theme in the last 10 minutes.

When some say that's a good dramatic twist, they forgot about the unoriginality due to the similarities with Deus Ex Human Revolution ending.




And when some say those anti-ending guys just want happy endings, they are simply wrong.

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#17 wcleung9
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That's why so many people hate the ending. Because there are too many reasons to. Everyone must found some.

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#18 TTDog
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They were never going to please everyone with the ending... whining cry-babies need to get over themselves... you don't see people moaning about a films ending and getting it changed as a result... can you imagine;

"I went to see the film Titanic and couldn't believe the ship sink... I don't like that... I demand it be changed!"

or

"I saw Pearl Harbour the other day... can't say I liked the part where the Japanese drops all those bombs... I demand you change it!"

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the game is almost flawless in every other regard, you need to play it, the ending gets too much hate anyways from ppl who want rainbows and sunshine endingsKeredsBlaze

The finale of the game was a tumor on the rest of the series. Its quality of writing-- as in, the basics, the Writing 101 class you take freshman year-- is dreadful and completely distinctive from the rest of Mass Effect. Its problems stem far, far deeper than "it wasn't a happy ending" or "my choices don't matter". It's about the fundamentals of narrative and, you know, not letting this **** leave the first draft.

People don't give a single f*** about the fact it wasn't a happy god damned ending. We give many, many f***s that it was so poorly written. It was a crap ending that forced the player to watch as their story was taken hostage of, tied down, and then forcefully lobotomized.

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#20 Blueresident87
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It is purely terrible.

For all the emphasis they placed on the impact of choices and creating your own story, the ending is a joke.

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#21 UziKill
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In my opinion, it's a great ride until the end and greatly worth playing. Ok, it might not have been the ending I was expecting, but to me that's ok. It would not have been a surprise if it finished the way I would have liked it to finish. I like surprise ending, and that one definitly surprised me. Any other endings would have been too predictable. Historicaly, many great stories don't finish the way we would like them to. That doesn't mean they're bad... they're just not like we expected.

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#22 Venom951
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That's why so many people hate the ending. Because there are too many reasons to. Everyone must found some.

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#23 CTR360
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M3 ending its good but i expect something better like ME2
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#24 StonedMagician
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Of course. Even if the ending were complete garbage (which it isn't), it's only one relatively small part of the entire game. People are ignoring everything else in the game so they get more chances to complain about the ending. Granted, the three different endings are all rather ambiguous (though some are more so than others) and similar, but they're not bad, per se.

In short, I think ME3 is the best game of the year so far, ending and all. So I say, get it. It's well worth it, and is, in my opinion, the best of the series. Not exactly a popular opinion, but that's me.

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#25 jasonkorrey
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Not too bad also not too good. I think it's an average ending that I find in it. But It could be more better one if they work more on it. Several people have bad opinon on this. So that's depend on their view for it.

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#26 Blueresident87
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Of course. Even if the ending were complete garbage (which it isn't), it's only one relatively small part of the entire game. People are ignoring everything else in the game so they get more chances to complain about the ending. Granted, the three different endings are all rather ambiguous (though some are more so than others) and similar, but they're not bad, per se.

In short, I think ME3 is the best game of the year so far, ending and all. So I say, get it. It's well worth it, and is, in my opinion, the best of the series. Not exactly a popular opinion, but that's me.

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That is flawed logic. If the ending to a story is not sufficient, the story all the way from the beginning suffers.

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#27 megadeth1117
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Wait and see what Bioware does with the extended ending DLC coming later this year.

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#28 MathMattS
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I thought the ending was OK. I wasn't too disappointed, considering that the entire game is very cinematic and a great conclusion to the series.

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#29 vashkey
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A bad ending doesn;t make the rest of the game not worth playing. Don;t get me wrong, the ending is pretty bad but don't let that stop you from playing what is over all a very good game.
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#30 Darksonic666
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Ending of the first Mass Effect

Me: Wow that was cool !!! I can't wait to play the second one.

Ending of Mass Effect 2 (after you save everyone and get the best possible ending)

Me: That was freaking epic !!! I can't wait to play the third one.

Ending of Mass effect 3

Me: That was it ?

I loved all the Mass Effect games and they were some of the best games ever made in my opinion. But as far as endings go the third one really did leave you feeling kind of disappointed and a little depressed.

Despite the ending Mass Effect 3 was an amazing game and you should really play it anyways.

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#31 jamejame
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I didn't think it was that bad to be honest. It's definitely a disappointment, but the Biodrones would have you believe it's the biggest travesty to grace a television screen since Tommy Wiseau's The Room, when it's really only lazy when you consider what it should have been.

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[QUOTE="KeredsBlaze"]the game is almost flawless in every other regard, you need to play it, the ending gets too much hate anyways from ppl who want rainbows and sunshine endingsMobilechicaneX

The finale of the game was a tumor on the rest of the series. Its quality of writing-- as in, the basics, the Writing 101 class you take freshman year-- is dreadful and completely distinctive from the rest of Mass Effect. Its problems stem far, far deeper than "it wasn't a happy ending" or "my choices don't matter". It's about the fundamentals of narrative and, you know, not letting this **** leave the first draft.

People don't give a single f*** about the fact it wasn't a happy god damned ending. We give many, many f***s that it was so poorly written. It was a crap ending that forced the player to watch as their story was taken hostage of, tied down, and then forcefully lobotomized.

Maybe you would do a better job of writing a masterful sci-fi trilogy? Give Bioware credit for even releasing this dlc, something they don't have to do, but they are anyways because they love their fans. Did I love the ending? No, but it wasn't near as bad as I was expecting. With everything that ppl were saying, I was expecting for the screen to just go black during battle, and credits to roll. That didn't happen. I don't need the ending to feed me with the aftermath of every choice that I made in the series. I know the choices that I made, they don't need to be re-hashed and I don't need foreshadowing of the future 300 years of the galaxy. With the option that I chose, I found some closure, and sure I had to make some of my own interpretations, but I think that is what makes Mass Effect great, you get to create the story in a way.
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#33 Basserker
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Everything leading up to it was fantastic, it was just that the ending was so much under par as compared with the rest of the game. It's still a fantastic game, it's just the ending needs some fixing.

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#34 XCyberForceX
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Don't listen to the masses, make your own decision. That's what I did and the game was awesome. The ending wasn't as bad as people said it was. It answered alot of questions and to tell you the truth was very original. Some people just can't handle out of the norm endings. We were brought up to expect: "Guy saves the universe, gets the girl, and lives happily ever after."

I find the ending very creative, out of the norm, and a good piece of writing compared to the cloned typical endings we're all too used to seeing.

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#35 deactivated-61cf0c4baf12e
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I loved the ending, it was what I was hoping for.

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#36 deactivated-61cf0c4baf12e
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Don't listen to the masses, make your own decision. That's what I did and the game was awesome. The ending wasn't as bad as people said it was. It answered alot of questions and to tell you the truth was very original. Some people just can't handle out of the norm endings. We were brought up to expect: "Guy saves the universe, gets the girl, and lives happily ever after."

I find the ending very creative, out of the norm, and a good piece of writing compared to the cloned typical endings we're all too used to seeing.

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This, except that my hero was a girl... but she also got the girl (I was too lazy to search for a male companion, and she was there, we didn't have wine but one thing led to another...)

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#37 -Y2J-
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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

since you get to see the culmination of your choices all add up here.

Jaysonguy

Nope, you're 100% wrong here

That's why so many people are upset.

You can play Mass Effect 3 as a stand alone title and get just as much out of it as someone who played all 3

no way thats true, i tried a blank me3 and it is nowhere near the same game without 1 and 2.
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#38 -Y2J-
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Don't listen to the masses, make your own decision. That's what I did and the game was awesome. The ending wasn't as bad as people said it was. It answered alot of questions and to tell you the truth was very original. Some people just can't handle out of the norm endings. We were brought up to expect: "Guy saves the universe, gets the girl, and lives happily ever after."

I find the ending very creative, out of the norm, and a good piece of writing compared to the cloned typical endings we're all too used to seeing.

XCyberForceX
your first sentence is correct, but i disagree with the rest. it wasnt a horrible ending, but poor in compairson to the rest of the trilogy. the deus ex machina intro damaged the game and it my opinion the lack of creativity led us to 3 different endings which were basically the same. the change of writers after me2 to mac walters also messed up some of the story.
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#39 djshowstopper87
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The ending wasn't that bad, it wasn't as lame as Halo 3's ending imo. I just saw it as being open ended, make your own conclusions sort of thing. But since gamers today are a whinny entitled bunch Bioware has to release a new ending to please them. That fact alone makes me embarrased to even call myself a fellow gamer.....

I am an apsiring filmmaker and I would pimp slap the **** out of someone who asked me the change to ending to my own film. So I felt bad for Bioware having to bow down to entitled gamers.

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#40 wikkiwild1
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I didn't find the ending that bad. Only question I had was if the crew of the Normandy was on Earth fighting how did they just end up in hyper space when the Mass Effect Relays went down. Oh ya and that all the decisions you made during all 3 games had absolutely no affect on the ending. You always had the same 3 choices.
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#41 i-rock-socks
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the ending wasnt bad, just seemed like a cheap way to avoid explaning what ur choices did, if anything

im on the "people are over-reacting" side tho

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#42 chilly-chill
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> Made no sense.

> Lot's of plot holes.

> Space magic.

> Everything goes against Shepards character.

> Deus Ex rip off.

> The SC's logic is flawed and contradicts himself.

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#43 SPYDER0416
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

since you get to see the culmination of your choices all add up here.

-Y2J-

Nope, you're 100% wrong here

That's why so many people are upset.

You can play Mass Effect 3 as a stand alone title and get just as much out of it as someone who played all 3

no way thats true, i tried a blank me3 and it is nowhere near the same game without 1 and 2.

Exactly, aside from contributing to the military strength rating, it also vastly affects who is in the game, who is not, what missions are available, and tiny things like an email from a survivor from a previous mission or some great assistance in a mission.

Its just not the same without seeing how your different choices affected the world, one little choice won't be a giant thing, but dozens of choices all culminate and interconnect in some unique ways.

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#44 sneric
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Yes the ending is that bad, it provides no closure and leaves you with more questions/plotholes than answers. Not only is the ending poorly writtten but the entire last mission is awful (war assets make no appearence, no squad tactics like the suicide mission from ME2, and poor level design), hopefully the EC helps make some sense of the "choose your favorite color" endings

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#45 sneric
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double post

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#46 BadNewsBen
Member since 2009 • 1493 Posts
To me, it was too brief. But would I say it was bad? No, not really. Given that it was Shepard's story, and we saw everything we needed to see as far as that goes, I can't say I'm too disappointed.