Is the Force Unleashed this year's black sheep?

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#1 szab360
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I think it definitely is. Just like there is a game or two every year that is actually pretty good but gets ripped apart by game journalist nonetheless. Yes, we all know it's a pretty short game (took me 5 and a half hrs on hard), but that 5 hrs was amazingly entertaining but most importantly fun.

Ok, it has glitches, but what games doesn't? The thing is though, this time most reviewers got stuck on one glitch and just kept going on and on and on and on abuot it whilst the 'review score was spinning down rapidly'. Now that we're talking about scores, I actually think that GS's 7.5 was a good score, but such as GameTrailers's 6.9 and 1UP's 50/100 were downright ridiculous. They're basically saying that the game is rubbish and on pair with such japanese crap like the Dynasty Warriors series. Oh, yes because it was repetative... When I heard that comment I was like: I'm sorry, what??? So if TFU is repetatve than what is DMC 4 or NG II? TFU has a great collection of combos, you can boost your stats by killing enemies in a stylistic way. HOW THE HELL IS IT REPETATIVE??? I'm sorry but this game is not anymore repetative than any other action game!!! They both had higher scores for funnily stupid reason.

Also, I feel that most reviewers pulled the technical quality of the game down just because they thought: 'Oh, what the hell, I might as well'. I have to say that TFU has AMAZING graphics. Raxus Prime made my jaw drop and that hasn't happened since I stepped out of the sewers in Oblivion and saw the scenery and that was back in 2006, 2 whole years ago. Also, the physics are amazing as well but I should not even have to mention that, and I am not going to. Last thing I'll mention is the story which is QUALITY. It is better than the last three SW films put together.

At the end of the day, fortunately people bought this game nonetheless and they are still buying it, I mean 1.5 million in first week, that's more like holiday blockbuster titles.

This is a GREAT GAME BUY IT!!!

P.s. I feel a lot better now after I said this.

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#2 Scarface_tm431
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No, it is not and actually got pretty good reviews around the board. Nothing to spectacular but still good scores
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#3 orb_03_2006
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I loved this game! people need to stop basing their opinions off of paid reviewers and try it out for themselves. :P
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#4 manhore30
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i think it deserves a 7.5 on gamespot. IMO
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#5 eTrace
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its mediocre. nothing amazing. 5 = average
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#6 Dabbagins
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Man I hope this game is nominated for one of the most disappointing games of the year so I can vote for it.
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#7 EvilAshTwin
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It seems hating on good games seems to be the big fad of ´08 which is why a crap load of gamers are ripping in to it. As for the reviews, what do you expect? Its a Starwars game. If we had the exact same game only set in the Ninja Gaiden or God of War universe it would have been 8-9. Im not saying reviewers are corrupt, I just think that the label has alot to do with their final judgment on a game.

Now is TFU the blacksheep of this year? No I dont think so, I honestly believe that Too Human would be the blacksheep of this year.

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#8 Dabbagins
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This game doesn't even come close to being in the same league as GoW, Dmc4 or other action adventure games. It shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as those games. This game shouldn't of even come out period.
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#9 JonnyHomicide
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I love the game. I believe that it isn't getting enough hype because the story is amazing and being the first game to add all those new programs in, it is running really really well. I love it.
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#10 makchady
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i was extremely dissappointed by the force unleashed...and my expectations werent even high. the first couple hours were good and that was it. then the game just become tedious and annoying and i had a hard time pushing myself to actually beat it because it was so bad. i agree that i would vote for it as worst game.
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#11 Sacif
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If the game was longer than 10 hours on a play through I would agree that it would be a major contender, but its definately has potential to be a sleeper hit since star wars fans are still drooling over the game.
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#12 OMG789
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This game doesn't even come close to being in the same league as GoW, Dmc4 or other action adventure games. It shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as those games. This game shouldn't of even come out period.Dabbagins

Yet on your gamercard it says its the last game you played 10 minutes ago -__-

I think this game is awesome, i noticed that gamespot gave it a 7.5 but i stopped listening to their reviews a long time ago

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#13 EvilAshTwin
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[QUOTE="Dabbagins"]This game doesn't even come close to being in the same league as GoW, Dmc4 or other action adventure games. It shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as those games. This game shouldn't of even come out period.OMG789

Yet on your gamercard it says its the last game you played 10 minutes ago -__-

I think this game is awesome, i noticed that gamespot gave it a 7.5 but i stopped listening to their reviews a long time ago

he's been trolling all the threads dealing with TFU, going on and on about how he's suffering through the game, and has to force himself to finish playing it because of how horrible the game is. Hes one of those types I mentioned earlier. Hating on a game for no reason other for the simple fact that its whats "cool" on the forum these days.

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#14 szab360
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This game doesn't even come close to being in the same league as GoW, Dmc4 or other action adventure games. It shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as those games. This game shouldn't of even come out period.Dabbagins

Haha funny that, considering you bought it and its the last played game on your gamercard... oh some people...

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#15 Desperados11
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the game was great

i actually had more fun than assasin's creed

but there is a lot of space for improvement so I agree with gamespot 7.5 is fair

this game would've rocked if they hadn't made a wii/ps2/psp/ds version, so much more time for finetuning the little bugs and stuff that drag it down

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#16 raahsnavj
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Last thing I'll mention is the story which is QUALITY. It is better than the last three SW films put together.

szab360
oh so close... you had me all the way up to here. Sorry but SW:TFU story is ok, but hardly on par with the stories from the first three films. It beat the acting from the first three films... I'll agree with that, but not the story. Yeah, I think this is the game that reviewers wanted to fail because they expected something much more polished and as such are trying to get the rest of the world to crucify it. But I still think it is a pretty good game all in all and hoping they make something very similar to it without the boss fights being so dumb...
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#17 szab360
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[QUOTE="szab360"]

Last thing I'll mention is the story which is QUALITY. It is better than the last three SW films put together.

raahsnavj

oh so close... you had me all the way up to here. Sorry but SW:TFU story is ok, but hardly on par with the stories from the first three films. It beat the acting from the first three films... I'll agree with that, but not the story. Yeah, I think this is the game that reviewers wanted to fail because they expected something much more polished and as such are trying to get the rest of the world to crucify it. But I still think it is a pretty good game all in all and hoping they make something very similar to it without the boss fights being so dumb...

Hang on i meant the last three films which were pretty much commercially and critically crap not the original trilogy but either way i like how you said that reviewers are trying to fail it. But it's funny how if this was a game under the GTA name it would've been in the high parts of the review table. I don't no.... Reviewers are meant to be objective and tell you the truth about game not take revenge on publishers by critically destroying their game just because it wasn't perfectly perfect...

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#18 r1m1k1
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The fact is that no matter how good the game is, a seven hour only single player game with no side quests or multiplayer shouldn't be bought. I rented it and beat it three times over the course of a weekend (only took me three playthroughs to max out all my skills).

I think the gamespot score is fair, it wasn't an outstanding achievement by any means but it was fun and an overall okay game.

Black Sheep definitely goes to Too Human, I still get a laugh out of these reviews and user comments that address concerns that are so foreign to me. One of the most fun games I've played in awhile.

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#19 raahsnavj
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The fact is that no matter how good the game is, a seven hour only single player game with no side quests or multiplayer shouldn't be bought.

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Wow, what a pile of BS. Play through all 4 difficulties and get everything in it. That is more than 7 hours. That is all.
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#20 Rockking123
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I agree completely.
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#21 Rockking123
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I think the only review that matters is your own.
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#22 howlrunner13
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I will not buy a game that takes 5 hours to complete, and one that I'll play 2 maybe 3 times through. It is NOT worth $60. I will however, rent it.
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#23 Matt-4542
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I think its a pretty damn good game.
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#24 cupcake_JR
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i find it fun, but it would be more interesting if:

1.the game was longer

2.had co-op of some kind? maybe making things generally harder with a co-op player? could be fun.

3. multiplayer duels? =P

4.they extended the level caps for skills

i dunno thats just my opinion, still a great game though

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#25 Dabbagins
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[QUOTE="OMG789"]

[QUOTE="Dabbagins"]This game doesn't even come close to being in the same league as GoW, Dmc4 or other action adventure games. It shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as those games. This game shouldn't of even come out period.EvilAshTwin

Yet on your gamercard it says its the last game you played 10 minutes ago -__-

I think this game is awesome, i noticed that gamespot gave it a 7.5 but i stopped listening to their reviews a long time ago

he's been trolling all the threads dealing with TFU, going on and on about how he's suffering through the game, and has to force himself to finish playing it because of how horrible the game is. Hes one of those types I mentioned earlier. Hating on a game for no reason other for the simple fact that its whats "cool" on the forum these days.

lol what's "cool" on the forum...right maybe you should read my post from the other thread again cause I mentioned exactly why I thought this game was a piece of crap. And the last time I checked it's not illegal to mention my opinion about a certian game, it's not like i'm making a topic about how bad the game is..the topics are already there.

szab360, you're an idiot, how the hell do you know I bought the game? just because it shows up on my gamercard? I rented this garbage from gamefly, what a waste of a rental.

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#26 cupcake_JR
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[QUOTE="EvilAshTwin"][QUOTE="OMG789"]

[QUOTE="Dabbagins"]Dabbagins

Yet on your gamercard it says its the last game you played 10 minutes ago -__-

I think this game is awesome, i noticed that gamespot gave it a 7.5 but i stopped listening to their reviews a long time ago

he's been trolling all the threads dealing with TFU, going on and on about how he's suffering through the game, and has to force himself to finish playing it because of how horrible the game is. Hes one of those types I mentioned earlier. Hating on a game for no reason other for the simple fact that its whats "cool" on the forum these days.

lol what's "cool" on the forum...right maybe you should read my post from the other thread again cause I mentioned exactly why I thought this game was a piece of crap. And the last time I checked it's not illegal to mention my opinion about a certian game, it's not like i'm making a topic about how bad the game is..the topics are already there.

szab360, you're an idiot, how the hell do you know I bought the game? just because it shows up on my gamercard? I rented this garbage from gamefly, what a waste of a rental.

wow, get off the forums you act like a 2 year old.

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#27 Dabbagins
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[QUOTE="Dabbagins"][QUOTE="EvilAshTwin"][QUOTE="OMG789"]

[QUOTE="Dabbagins"]cupcake_JR

Yet on your gamercard it says its the last game you played 10 minutes ago -__-

I think this game is awesome, i noticed that gamespot gave it a 7.5 but i stopped listening to their reviews a long time ago

he's been trolling all the threads dealing with TFU, going on and on about how he's suffering through the game, and has to force himself to finish playing it because of how horrible the game is. Hes one of those types I mentioned earlier. Hating on a game for no reason other for the simple fact that its whats "cool" on the forum these days.

lol what's "cool" on the forum...right maybe you should read my post from the other thread again cause I mentioned exactly why I thought this game was a piece of crap. And the last time I checked it's not illegal to mention my opinion about a certian game, it's not like i'm making a topic about how bad the game is..the topics are already there.

szab360, you're an idiot, how the hell do you know I bought the game? just because it shows up on my gamercard? I rented this garbage from gamefly, what a waste of a rental.

wow, get off the forums you act like a 2 year old.

Maybe you're just a hardcore Star Wars fanboy that can't take my opinion..so go ahead and tell me I act like a 2 year old..nice comeback moron.
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#28 phlynhy
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[QUOTE="cupcake_JR"][QUOTE="Dabbagins"][QUOTE="EvilAshTwin"][QUOTE="OMG789"]

[QUOTE="Dabbagins"]Dabbagins

Yet on your gamercard it says its the last game you played 10 minutes ago -__-

I think this game is awesome, i noticed that gamespot gave it a 7.5 but i stopped listening to their reviews a long time ago

he's been trolling all the threads dealing with TFU, going on and on about how he's suffering through the game, and has to force himself to finish playing it because of how horrible the game is. Hes one of those types I mentioned earlier. Hating on a game for no reason other for the simple fact that its whats "cool" on the forum these days.

lol what's "cool" on the forum...right maybe you should read my post from the other thread again cause I mentioned exactly why I thought this game was a piece of crap. And the last time I checked it's not illegal to mention my opinion about a certian game, it's not like i'm making a topic about how bad the game is..the topics are already there.

szab360, you're an idiot, how the hell do you know I bought the game? just because it shows up on my gamercard? I rented this garbage from gamefly, what a waste of a rental.

wow, get off the forums you act like a 2 year old.

Maybe you're just a hardcore Star Wars fanboy that can't take my opinion..so go ahead and tell me I act like a 2 year old..nice comeback moron.

No but really, you kind of are.

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#29 Dabbagins
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Well I apologise for calling people names, after all we are a 360 family here, but some people should know that trolling and stating an opinion are 2 different things. I gotta adimit I did troll in one of those 3 tfu threads, but the other 2 I was just stating my opinion. Some people get opinions and trolling mixed up and then go and troll themselves like the guy that mentioned I was trolling in all the other threads, wrong only in one of those threads I was trolling.lol
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#30 mohfrontline
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I guess. Forced Unleashed seems alright. Nothing amazing, but it didn't suck. Mercenaries 2 on the other hand, whew....that sucked.
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#31 Matt-4542
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Both of you, stop arguing. Its pathetic.
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#32 naruto7777
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its a great game which proves games with bad scores sell
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#33 Dabbagins
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I guess. Forced Unleashed seems alright. Nothing amazing, but it didn't suck. Mercenaries 2 on the other hand, whew....that sucked.mohfrontline
I thought Merc 2 was a very fun game. Most underated game of the year imo, tfu got lucky with a 7.5 cause it carries the star wars name, truly deserved a 6 just cause of the story and cool cgi cutscenes. Other than that I don't understand how someone can play through this game twice.
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#34 demon565
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I bought this game , and I must say I am very satisfied. Sure I wish it was longer but its ok you will need to do 2 play throughs anyway to get both of the endings.
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#35 phearless
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I believe that games that get diversified reviews are really the ones to get that end up being classic. You know if a game stinks it gets the universal thumbs down 'don't buy this if your life depends on it' deal. But when you get a game that is not slanted in its acceptance it is usually a decent game. I did not think that TFU was a spectacular game, but I do believe it IS classic. Let's face facts: The story was very well written and professionally acted & the game was fun to play. Yes there have been comments about the targeting and some of the mechanics are difficult -BUT WHO THE HECK WANTS A GAME THAT IS SO EASY TO PLAY THAT THE PLAYER GETS NO CHALLENGE WHAT SO EVER? Not me, hopefully not you either.

Lucas did us just with The Force Unleashed. How many games can you remember this site or another game site that gave rave reviews to a game, but when you laid down cash or rented it and played it at home you said to yourself 'This game sucks!!'. The true gamers know that feeling. Remember when 'button mashing' was bad and analog control for action was better in the eyes of editors and reviewers and what did we get, foolish designers that gave us games like Tombraider Angel of Darkness & Jet Li's Rise to Honor'. Them games stunk. What happened? We went back to button mashing and got classic games like 'God of War'.

Tech people and reviewers have ideas that are tested and become true or false bad or good. They are not perfect. Neither is every game that comes out. The real choice is in the hands of the buyer. If you liked it its yours not some buppy that thinks his opinion is the only opinion that counts.;)

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#36 Dabbagins
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My opinion is the only opinon that count for me, it doesn't have to count for you. What i'm saying is it deserved a 6 IN MY OPINION, i'm not saying this is what you better believe. Comon man, and I like that word buppy.
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#37 Sirmonkey12
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$50>6 hours of gameplay
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#38 Ruhdezee
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this game is great it hasnt left my xbox in like a week what a stormtrooper filled week
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#39 gr8scott
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It's a great game, but it was way too short. I beat it in less than 5 hours!!! Either I was a speedster or it was pretty short; and from the way I play games, I think that it's way too short.

the gameplay is pretty good but nothing impressive. It sold very well so it must be somewhat successful. It's a really great experience but for me, it's not worth $60. You can easily beat it within hours than days.

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#40 xXMcClaneXx
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i didn't want this game...but then about 3 or 4 of my friends told me they loved it so i decided to pick it up...glad i did to

its a good game for venting anger lol....and the art design for some levels is out of this world (buh dum psshh)

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#41 yanni1
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its a great game and its doing great, especially over here in australia, it topped the aussie charts with the 360 version at #1 and ps3 version at #2. finally breaking wii-fits streak being on top.
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#42 trash18164022
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its fun and all, but only 5 hours of gameplay is letdown, maybe one of the major reasos why this game didn't do as well as expected was b/c of all the hype, it really kills game that r supposed to be spectacular due to the fact that they have a couple of problems and everyones goes insane and calls the game crap
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#43 trash18164022
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my pont is that you should expect games to have flaws (all games do) and to judge the game as if it was regular instead of a hugley anticipated one
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#44 EvilAshTwin
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The fact is that no matter how good the game is, a seven hour only single player game with no side quests or multiplayer shouldn't be bought. I rented it and beat it three times over the course of a weekend (only took me three playthroughs to max out all my skills).

r1m1k1

Ill say it again, God of War. Slightly longer campaign than TFU (but not by much), 0 replay value to it and its still considered one of the greatest hack n slash games ever. Or atleast on even footing as Ninja Gaiden, granted that had a much longer campaign, but lets not kid ourselves here. How much of the length was due to long level design, and how much of it was due to having to do the same parts over and over and over again?

If you want another example, fine how about Bioshock. Yeah I know different genre, but still 6 hours to beat, 0 replay, no MP and people are calling it the greatest game of our generation. People hold it up on a pedistol for its great visuals and great story (though IMO I thought the story blew hard), just like TFU.

The overall play time of most games is completely dependant on the amount of time you put into it. Oblivion is a great example of this, 6 hours to beat if you only do the main storyline. Yet theres hundreds upon hundreds of hours of gameplay it. Now please dont think Im putting TFU up there with Oblivion, despite my personal feeling toward Oblivion Im not going to be that foolish. Im also not saying that TFU has hundreds of hours of potential gameplay to it. Im just saying that if actually do everything in this game, its going to take more than 5 hours to do.

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#45 sonic_spark
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I thought it was a great game. It's easily an 8+ hour game, and 10+ if you take the time to look for every single holocron.
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The fact is that no matter how good the game is, a seven hour only single player game with no side quests or multiplayer shouldn't be bought.

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Wow, what a pile of BS. Play through all 4 difficulties and get everything in it. That is more than 7 hours. That is all.

Difficulty levels are a way of artificially lengthening games, and should never be counted when looking at the time It takes to finish the game.
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I approve
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[QUOTE="r1m1k1"]

The fact is that no matter how good the game is, a seven hour only single player game with no side quests or multiplayer shouldn't be bought.

raahsnavj

Wow, what a pile of BS. Play through all 4 difficulties and get everything in it. That is more than 7 hours. That is all.

well some people have lives and can't be bothered playing through the same game 4 times just to make it worth the money so im sorry but you fail.

on topic

i really like force unleashed and its story a 8/10 from me

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#49 TX360
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[QUOTE="raahsnavj"][QUOTE="r1m1k1"]

The fact is that no matter how good the game is, a seven hour only single player game with no side quests or multiplayer shouldn't be bought.

dlindenb2000

Wow, what a pile of BS. Play through all 4 difficulties and get everything in it. That is more than 7 hours. That is all.

Difficulty levels are a way of artificially lengthening games, and should never be counted when looking at the time It takes to finish the game.

yep i completed the game in 7 hours and then sold it but i still thought it was a fantastic star wars game.