It's official, stop complaining about the quality of the BF3 demo(ldev letter)

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/10/03/battlefield-3-open-beta-update-2.aspx

If you're thinking "why is the beta so old?" It's been said over and over that it takes months for companies to submit a demo / beta to be uploaded to Xbox live.

So stop your hating haters.

Most of the people who are complaining probably don't even know what a Beta is...

Most of the people who are complaining probably don't even know what a Beta is...

Blueresident87

[QUOTE="Blueresident87"]

Most of the people who are complaining probably don't even know what a Beta is...

0_demo_0

[QUOTE="Blueresident87"]

Most of the people who are complaining probably don't even know what a Beta is...

0_demo_0

So i'm just supposed to "believe" that everything will be fixed in the real game? Yeah no...............

[QUOTE="0_demo_0"][QUOTE="Blueresident87"]

Most of the people who are complaining probably don't even know what a Beta is...

Jamiemydearx3

Not the last 2 CODS...

So i'm just supposed to "believe" that everything will be fixed in the real game? Yeah no...............

CARNAGES41

Then don't get it...

The rest of us will.

Most of the people who are complaining probably don't even know what a Beta is...

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/10/03/battlefield-3-open-beta-update-2.aspx

If you're thinking "why is the beta so old?" It's been said over and over that it takes months for companies to submit a demo / beta to be uploaded to Xbox live.

So stop your hating haters.

[QUOTE="0_demo_0"][QUOTE="Blueresident87"] That's because CoD doesn't put out Betas...firefox59

Why do people now think that they need to complain about the BF3 beta? I have to ask all of exactly what was it you were expecting? Its (1) map and (1) game mode. All of the graphical assets are not in place and the environmental damage has been turned down. I have reached level 10 in the beta and have unlockedsome great guns and attachments for said guns. I love the BF style of gameplay. I have to believe that those who are hating on the BF3 beta are for the most part CoD fanboys who downloaded the beta simply to see if they could enjoy the BF style or to bash on it to make themselves feel better. I know there are some BF fans that also dont like the beta, but once the full game arrives, they will be right there!!

[QUOTE="firefox59"] Lol, I think you guys are missing the point. He was implying that because COD didn't do something that people wouldn't know about it, irregardless of whether or not COD did have a beta three games ago.El_Zo1212o

Really stupid move to release that 'beta'. KC_Hokie

I somewhat agree with this. I don't think they put their best foot forward with this, simply because they should have seen that people would react negatively to an older, glitchy build of the game. It's hard to make millions of people understand that the beta is very, very different from the retail game. At the same time, I'd rather them do stress tests now and actually be able to play BF3 in its first few weeks of release.

Why do people now think that they need to complain about the BF3 beta? I have to ask all of exactly what was it you were expecting? Its (1) map and (1) game mode. All of the graphical assets are not in place and the environmental damage has been turned down. I have reached level 10 in the beta and have unlockedsome great guns and attachments for said guns. I love the BF style of gameplay. I have to believe that those who are hating on the BF3 beta are for the most part CoD fanboys who downloaded the beta simply to see if they could enjoy the BF style or to bash on it to make themselves feel better. I know there are some BF fans that also dont like the beta, but once the full game arrives, they will be right there!!

ShoTTyMcNaDeS

QFT. Could not have said it better myself. Deciding not to get this game or cancel a preorder because you didn't like playing 1 game mode on 1 map, on an old, toned down build of the game is just dumb IMO. BF3 will have over a dozen maps with multiple game modes. I didn't like some game mode/map combos on BC2, but does that mean I didn't like the game? Hell no lol. I'm nearly certain that most of the BF3 beta haters are CoD fans that couldn't adjust to a different style of gameplay. Not saying that's essentially a bad thing, because it is hard to like a game you can't get used to, but your lack of ability to adjust doesn't make the game bad...

I'll actually be happy if this beta keeps CoD kill-fiends and objective ignorers out of BF3's community. I like CoD and love racking up kills on noobs, but that kind of attittude doesn't apply to a game so objective-based. BC2 was more or less without those kinds of players, from my level 1-50 experience with it, and I loved how the game was played the way it was meant to be played.

[QUOTE="CARNAGES41"]

So i'm just supposed to "believe" that everything will be fixed in the real game? Yeah no...............

Gamefreak1296

Then don't get it...

The rest of us will.

This, this and this. I'll be happy with a BF3 community that is the size of the BC2 community. Wasn't gigantic like CoD's communities but was still huge and very consistent. BF3 will no doubt have a larger community, so if you don't like the game, don't get it, we'll be fine without you.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Really stupid move to release that 'beta'. elpooz

I somewhat agree with this. I don't think they put their best foot forward with this, simply because they should have seen that people would react negatively to an older, glitchy build of the game. It's hard to make millions of people understand that the beta is very, very different from the retail game. At the same time, I'd rather them do stress tests now and actually be able to play BF3 in its first few weeks of release.

True but I don't even have a problem with the bugs since I know what to expect with a beta. Its the party system, prone and gun damage.

[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="firefox59"] Lol, I think you guys are missing the point. He was implying that because COD didn't do something that people wouldn't know about it, irregardless of whether or not COD did have a beta three games ago.firefox59

[QUOTE="Blueresident87"]

Most of the people who are complaining probably don't even know what a Beta is...

0_demo_0

Dude, COD is so amazing that they put out a beta a year before the game comes out. :P

[QUOTE="firefox59"][QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"] "Irregardless" isn't actually a word. And if CoD4 was the last one with a beta, it would be four games ago- W@W, MW2, BO, MW3. MW3 isn't out yet, of course, but if there was going to be a beta test, people would've known about it by now.El_Zo1212o

[QUOTE="0_demo_0"][QUOTE="Blueresident87"] That's because CoD doesn't put out Betas...firefox59

Lol man, I was just trying to point out that it is a word that exists and I didn't just pull it out of the air. And my high school english teacher was beyond ruthless so I'd have to agree with that.firefox59

Is it not possible that they're just saying it's a old version rather then just admitting they messed up?

Is it not possible that they're just saying it's a old version rather then just admitting they messed up?

driftingsilvia

...u can defend and say it a test beta but when ur competing with cod and plan on stealing their customers why would u release a super buggie beta...VHEISU

So, of course, within the last month of development they obviously completely overhauled the game in it's entirety? This is just an excuse, if they hadn't have launched the beta, they would have released with half of these issues still present. To imply that a game like battlefield would release an unfinished demo is absurd. EA wouldn't let them. A build that is 1 month old is not old at all, especially when that is the last month before release, at which point the game should be pretty much done. This is a Demo, not a beta, a demo. Calling it a beta build is almost laughable.Overlord93

They submitted the beta several months ago, because it takes quite a long time for it to actually get cleared or whatever to be put on the Marketplace by MS or the whatever store on PSN. So, the code really is several months old. It's not like they submitted the game build they had on the 27th and it was just out on the 27th. They submitted the build they had a few months ago, and it's now coming out. So, they have had actually more like 3-4 months to work on the build that we are seeing now. The game would not have released like this any under circumstances. Also, they had to tone down graphics, destruction, the physics engine, etc... to make this game playable in beta form.

The download is only 1.3 GB... you seriously think this is a demo and that this is how the final game will look? Demo = a short level of the final game, not an old build of a game that is toned down heavily. This beta is not indicative of the final game, not by a longshot. Walls go out in the beta, entire three-story buildings can go down in the retail game.

I love when people come into threads, read nothing and then post something that has already been addressed/proven wrong/whatever...

[QUOTE="VHEISU"]...u can defend and say it a test beta but when ur competing with cod and plan on stealing their customers why would u release a super buggie beta...El_Zo1212o

[QUOTE="Overlord93"]So, of course, within the last month of development they obviously completely overhauled the game in it's entirety? This is just an excuse, if they hadn't have launched the beta, they would have released with half of these issues still present. To imply that a game like battlefield would release an unfinished demo is absurd. EA wouldn't let them. A build that is 1 month old is not old at all, especially when that is the last month before release, at which point the game should be pretty much done. This is a Demo, not a beta, a demo. Calling it a beta build is almost laughable.elpooz

They submitted the beta several months ago, because it takes quite a long time for it to actually get cleared or whatever to be put on the Marketplace by MS or the whatever store on PSN. So, the code really is several months old. It's not like they submitted the game build they had on the 27th and it was just out on the 27th. They submitted the build they had a few months ago, and it's now coming out. So, they have had actually more like 3-4 months to work on the build that we are seeing now. The game would not have released like this any under circumstances. Also, they had to tone down graphics, destruction, the physics engine, etc... to make this game playable in beta form.

The download is only 1.3 GB... you seriously think this is a demo and that this is how the final game will look? Demo = a short level of the final game, not an old build of a game that is toned down heavily. This beta is not indicative of the final game, not by a longshot. Walls go out in the beta, entire three-story buildings can go down in the retail game.

I love when people come into threads, read nothing and then post something that has already been addressed/proven wrong/whatever...

I personally haven't found any glitches but apparently other people have. The real problem people are having is the level that was chosen for the beta, and namely no vehicles. Even though EA announced the map to be used months ago.

[QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="Overlord93"]So, of course, within the last month of development they obviously completely overhauled the game in it's entirety? This is just an excuse, if they hadn't have launched the beta, they would have released with half of these issues still present. To imply that a game like battlefield would release an unfinished demo is absurd. EA wouldn't let them. A build that is 1 month old is not old at all, especially when that is the last month before release, at which point the game should be pretty much done. This is a Demo, not a beta, a demo. Calling it a beta build is almost laughable.firefox59

They submitted the beta several months ago, because it takes quite a long time for it to actually get cleared or whatever to be put on the Marketplace by MS or the whatever store on PSN. So, the code really is several months old. It's not like they submitted the game build they had on the 27th and it was just out on the 27th. They submitted the build they had a few months ago, and it's now coming out. So, they have had actually more like 3-4 months to work on the build that we are seeing now. The game would not have released like this any under circumstances. Also, they had to tone down graphics, destruction, the physics engine, etc... to make this game playable in beta form.

The download is only 1.3 GB... you seriously think this is a demo and that this is how the final game will look? Demo = a short level of the final game, not an old build of a game that is toned down heavily. This beta is not indicative of the final game, not by a longshot. Walls go out in the beta, entire three-story buildings can go down in the retail game.

I love when people come into threads, read nothing and then post something that has already been addressed/proven wrong/whatever...

I personally haven't found any glitches but apparently other people have. The real problem people are having is the level that was chosen for the beta, and namely no vehicles. Even though EA announced the map to be used months ago.

I'm not trying to make excuses for DICE, just explaining why the beta is the way it is. A lot of people don't seem to understand that the graphics will be much better in the actual game, the destruction will be much more complex, and so on, or that this build is not the final one at all.

I think DICE should have made this a larger download, even if it had to be really large, and really showed off what they had, instead of toning down the graphics and destruction so much. Or, they could have just not had an open beta at all. They already had an extensive Alpha testing period with really dedicated members of their community, so this was really just a stress test/promotional beta. Could have just been cut out altogether. I'm sure people will be wow'ed on the 25th by how good the game looks, plays, etc... but this beta is gonna leave a bad taste in the mouth of a lot of people. I really like it, personally, but there are tons of people who don't...

My problem isn't with the graphics. Graphics don't make or break the game, but there's is alot of pop-in on the beta. There are other problems. "IF" this is a month old beta and all the problems get reported right up until October 10th when the Beta stops. That means they will need to fix every problem before the release, which is only like 2-3 weeks away. That's not very much time. Point being, they released the beta too close to launch date. A beta is what a tester plays to report any problems with the game. Having 2 weeks to fix all said problems is not very much time and if they choose to not push the release date back, some of these problems will still remain in the game.

My problem isn't with the graphics. Graphics don't make or break the game, but there's is alot of pop-in on the beta. There are other problems. "IF" this is a month old beta and all the problems get reported right up until October 10th when the Beta stops. That means they will need to fix every problem before the release, which is only like 2-3 weeks away. That's not very much time. Point being, they released the beta too close to launch date. A beta is what a tester plays to report any problems with the game. Having 2 weeks to fix all said problems is not very much time and if they choose to not push the release date back, some of these problems will still remain in the game.

driftingsilvia

This build is 2 months older than its release date. This is the build they had in August, and they have already announced that the glitches and bugs and other issues in that build (the beta) have been fixed already. This beta is more about promotion, testing the servers and seeing how people feel about the gameplay/guns/classes, rather than the bugs and what not. Those bugs were around in the Alpha and they are obviously aware of them since they announced that the final game is without them. I don't get why people think that this is what Dice had on September 27th and they just threw it out there right then. The submitted this months ago, and they may have even had a newer build at the time that they weren't finished with and couldn't submit. They have had about 3 months before release to iron out the bugs in the build we are playing, which is more than enough time.

The pop-ins, graphical issues, poor textures, etc... are a result of them lowering the level of the graphics, physics and destruction for the sake of playability and a reasonable download size. The graphics in the final release will be much better, the destruction will be far more complex and realistic and so on. They are actually making this a 2-disc game I believe, with one disc being the MP and co-op and the other being the campaign, because of the map size + very powerful engine + technically great graphics making it hard for one disc to contain it all.

Why would a company like EA allow Dice to release a old buggy version of the game to people knowing full well it will get bad publicity? When you were typing what you said, did you really believe what you were saying? It's much easier to say "yeah, this is a old version of the game. we gave you a glitchy test but we fixed everything" rather than "yeah...we screwed up".

I never said it was a good move on DICE's or EA's part. EA has done tons of dumb things before, they were the publisher that allowed the NBA Elite demo to be released, which basically led to that game's cancellation. I'm just stating the facts. It takes several months for anything to get onto the XBL Marketplace, because MS has to approve it, test it, etc. DICE mainly wanted to test their servers with this beta and get the game more exposure. Also, you seem to be assuming that people don't like this "old, buggy version" of the game. Just because people on GS forums are talking bad about it doesn't mean it's being received that way universally. Most other forums I post on are full of people really enjoying the beta, despite the bugs, and tons of people are talking about how the bugs aren't even bothering them. There are even a good number of people on thse forums, like myself, that really like the beta.

If you're doubting that the final game will be without most or all of the bugs in the beta, then whatever lol. You'll just be proven wrong on the 25th :?.

I never said it was a good move on DICE's or EA's part. EA has done tons of dumb things before, they were the publisher that allowed the NBA Elite demo to be released, which basically led to that game's cancellation. I'm just stating the facts. It takes several months for anything to get onto the XBL Marketplace, because MS has to approve it, test it, etc. DICE mainly wanted to test their servers with this beta and get the game more exposure. Also, you seem to be assuming that people don't like this "old, buggy version" of the game. Just because people on GS forums are talking bad about it doesn't mean it's being received that way universally. Most other forums I post on are full of people really enjoying the beta, despite the bugs, and tons of people are talking about how the bugs aren't even bothering them. There are even a good number of people on thse forums, like myself, that really like the beta.

If you're doubting that the final game will be without most or all of the bugs in the beta, then whatever lol. You'll just be proven wrong on the 25th :?.

elpooz

...I personally haven't found any glitches but apparently other people have...firefox59

for all you complaining, cod does put out betas...black ops had a beta but it was called world at war

for all you complaining, cod does put out betas...black ops had a beta but it was called world at war

laliberte11

So i'm just supposed to "believe" that everything will be fixed in the real game? Yeah no...............

CARNAGES41

do you know how to read? It is an old downgraded version of the code with its sole purpose to get as many people online to test servers. Not totaly reflective of what will come out in a few weeks