I've bought a 360 but i'm not impressed....

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#1 jay_Z_100
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I bought a 360 about a month ago and while I found the games to be great other things are not impressing me.

Now, I don't have a HDTV, but when I hooked up the 360 to my 20"LCD monitor I don't see a real difference between that and my normal SDTV. I thought the difference between HD and SD would be bigger.

Another problem I have is Live, I'm sorry but it's not worth Au$80 a year. I live in Australia and a lot of the games I try to play I get too much lag. Luckily most of the games I enjoy are generally single player. And the general community on Live is a bunch of Racist kids yelling insults all the time. I tried the free month of Gold subscription but didn't want to continue with it.

For your info, the previous gen I ownedonly a PS2. This gen I got a Wii on launch and a 360 after that.

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#2 gamble61
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lol. ok dude.

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#3 Chopmo81
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HD in comparision to SD is huge. Maybe you didn't switch all the stuff over for HD (behind the unit and in the system settings). No matter what next gen HD gaming machine you get, it's not going to be the same in SD.

I have a 46" Samsung LCD HDTV. It blows my mind when I play games.

As for Xbox live, you're mostely right (in my opinion of course). Depending on the game you play, the kids are brats. Forza has a great community fortunatly. Shooters and such don't. Is it worth $50 a year to me? Hell yes! That's little over 4 dollars a month and I love Xbox live.

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#4 sleepisawesome2
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well watch this video it will make you appreciate your 360 http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/24690
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#5 MVfalcons83
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what games do u have? They might just not be good xbox live games. Xbox live gets really fun if u make friends on there so make friends that u can play with. Also try and get Oblivion.
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#6 Roughan-
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people need to stop complaining about graphics, honestly. Also, maybe it's just your connection or the games youre entering that are making you lag?
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#7 Zeliard9
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Try something a little bigger than a 20" monitor, genius. And XBox Live Gold for a year comes out to $4/m American. Aka a single cup of coffee from Starbucks. That's in a month. If you can't afford that, well, you probably shouldn't have bought a $399 machine that plays $60 games.
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#8 caleb5050
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i bet ur trying the graphics of the burger king games right? cause ur defeinetly not talking about games like Oblivion, Gears...
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I bought a 360 about a month ago and while I found the games to be great other things are not impressing me.

Now, I don't have a HDTV, but when I hooked up the 360 to my 20"LCD monitor I don't see a real difference between that and my normal SDTV. I thought the difference between HD and SD would be bigger.

Another problem I have is Live, I'm sorry but it's not worth Au$80 a year. I live in Australia and a lot of the games I try to play I get too much lag. Luckily most of the games I enjoy are generally single player. And the general community on Live is a bunch of Racist kids yelling insults all the time. I tried the free month of Gold subscription but didn't want to continue with it.

For your info, the previous gen I ownedonly a PS2. This gen I got a Wii on launch and a 360 after that.

jay_Z_100

Play with people in Australia, your probably playing with people from around the world.

Also, I think 360 looks better in SD, my friend has an HD and it looks ugly, he has all the settings for the HD and everything.

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#10 jay_Z_100
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HD in comparision to SD is huge. Maybe you didn't switch all the stuff over for HD (behind the unit and in the system settings). No matter what next gen HD gaming machine you get, it's not going to be the same in SD.

I have a 46" Samsung LCD HDTV. It blows my mind when I play games.

As for Xbox live, you're mostely right (in my opinion of course). Depending on the game you play, the kids are brats. Forza has a great community fortunatly. Shooters and such don't. Is it worth $50 a year to me? Hell yes! That's little over 4 dollars a month and I love Xbox live.

Chopmo81

I got the official xbox 360 VGA cable and it's just connecting it to the monitor and the back of the 360 and I also tried playing around with the setting and while it made the dashboard sharper, the actual games wasn't a big leap.

When I said that there is not that big a difference between SD and HD, I was not playing down the graphics of the 360 because the graphics on my SDTV are still fantastic especially Gears of war and Kameo.

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#11 jay_Z_100
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I didn't say I can't afford it, I just said it's not worth it.

Just cause I can also afford the crappy games doesn't mean I'll buy them, I'll just stick to buying stuff that's worth it to me.

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#12 Zeliard9
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[QUOTE="Chopmo81"]

HD in comparision to SD is huge. Maybe you didn't switch all the stuff over for HD (behind the unit and in the system settings). No matter what next gen HD gaming machine you get, it's not going to be the same in SD.

I have a 46" Samsung LCD HDTV. It blows my mind when I play games.

As for Xbox live, you're mostely right (in my opinion of course). Depending on the game you play, the kids are brats. Forza has a great community fortunatly. Shooters and such don't. Is it worth $50 a year to me? Hell yes! That's little over 4 dollars a month and I love Xbox live.

jay_Z_100

I got the official xbox 360 VGA cable and it's just connecting it to the monitor and the back of the 360 and I also tried playing around with the setting and while it made the dashboard sharper, the actual games wasn't a big leap.

When I said that there is not that big a difference between SD and HD, I was not playing down the graphics of the 360 because the graphics on my SDTV are still fantastic especially Gears of war and Kameo.

And we're telling you there IS a huge difference between standard and HD. Enormous, actually. The thing is, it might not be that noticeable if you're using a dinky 20" monitor as your example for HD. Try a bigger size and it'll be very noticeable. I played on a standard TV for months before switching to the 32" Samsung LCD I have now. The difference was staggering.

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#13 dreamscott
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You need a pair of glasses..
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[QUOTE="jay_Z_100"][QUOTE="Chopmo81"]

HD in comparision to SD is huge. Maybe you didn't switch all the stuff over for HD (behind the unit and in the system settings). No matter what next gen HD gaming machine you get, it's not going to be the same in SD.

I have a 46" Samsung LCD HDTV. It blows my mind when I play games.

As for Xbox live, you're mostely right (in my opinion of course). Depending on the game you play, the kids are brats. Forza has a great community fortunatly. Shooters and such don't. Is it worth $50 a year to me? Hell yes! That's little over 4 dollars a month and I love Xbox live.

Zeliard9

I got the official xbox 360 VGA cable and it's just connecting it to the monitor and the back of the 360 and I also tried playing around with the setting and while it made the dashboard sharper, the actual games wasn't a big leap.

When I said that there is not that big a difference between SD and HD, I was not playing down the graphics of the 360 because the graphics on my SDTV are still fantastic especially Gears of war and Kameo.

And we're telling you there IS a huge difference between standard and HD. Enormous, actually. The thing is, it might not be that noticeable if you're using a dinky 20" monitor as your example for HD. Try a bigger size and it'll be very noticeable. I played on a standard TV for months before switching to the 32" Samsung LCD I have now. The difference was staggering.

I agree. There's a big difference. Everything is soo clear and crisp in HD. I've had mine plugged into a SD tv and it's pretty ugly. Looks awesome in HD. I don't know how people don't see the diff. It's like trying to look through a foggy glass for SD and removing the glass for HD. I'd agree with the people who say get glasses

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#15 dbzultimate3134
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i live in australia as well so i know wot ur goin through with lag u just have to play with australians and then u get pretty much no lag, and with the SD to HD thing my brother has his connected to the LCD tv in the lounge and mine in im my room connected to my SD TV and let me tell u there is a huge difference. U may have forgoten to change ur settings to HD mayb that was the problem
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#16 jay_Z_100
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Either I must be doing something wrong with the cables or I expected too much from nextgen consoles.

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#17 BrokenStr8
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Either I must be doing something wrong with the cables or I expected too much from nextgen consoles.

jay_Z_100
What kind of monitor are you using?
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#18 Zeliard9
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Either I must be doing something wrong with the cables or I expected too much from nextgen consoles.

jay_Z_100

How much could you possibly have expected? The difference in how technically impressive and innovative games are between this gen and last gen is absurd. And it's still very early.

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#19 jay_Z_100
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The monitor is a Dell 20"LCDmonitor. And my expectation was in relation to HD not how technically impressive the games are.The games are some of the best there is, and if someone told me that SD was all there was, I'd been happy with my purchase, but when Microsoft goes on about the HD era and you must have HD, I expected to be blown away when I saw it.

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#20 ColoradoKindBud
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Get yourself a nice HDTV & then come back & talk to us about it. The difference between SD & HD is night & day once you've played on a buff HDTV. And no, I'm not bragging or flaming you, I'm just letting you know how it is.

And the fact that Live costs so much in Aus is a bummer for you, but it doesn't at all change the fact that the service is fantastic & is easily the best console online setup to date.

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#21 gokuofheaven
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ok. next.
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#22 Zeliard9
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I just don't understand how someone can buy a game system where the games cost $60 a pop and complain that they have to pay a single payment of about that much for an entire year of multiplayer gaming. It's basically the price of one game, and you get a year of service. If you can afford a system where you're going to be paying that amount per game, you can afford to pay that amount just once per year for Live. A year is a long time.
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#23 arkboy_basic
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Let me go over this with you just to make sure you have everything set the right way, because the difference between HD and SDTV are EXTREME.  First, make sure you actually have the right cables. Second, there is a little switch on the part of the cable that plugs into the console.  Make sure that is switched to HD.  Third, make sure you have your console set to 720p or 1080i.  If none of this has worked then I suspect it's your display.  Sounds like you are trying to use a small computer monitor to play your games on.  Take your 360 over to a friend's house who actually has a real HDTV and plug it into there.  Trust me, the difference between playing 360 on a standard TV and and HDTV is enormous...
Now i'd like to end with my thoughts on the 360.  I bought may 360 over a year ago.  I was weary about buying one because I didn't want what happened to the Dreamcast to happen to the 360.  Not that I thought the 360 was going to tank, but I still didn't want to blow $400 on a console that wouldn't compete with Sony and Nintendo.  Looking back I realize how dumb those thoughts were.  The 360 is my favorite console right now.  It is way better than what the Wii and PS3 have to offer at the moment.  Lots of games, lots of fun and looks GREAT on my HDTV.  I can see both sides of the XBOX Live arguement.  Since I'm an American I don't have much trouble with lag, but I still have not actually put down the money for a full year of LIVE yet.
Anyway, congrats on your new 360 and good luck!
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#25 GungraveZero
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Well seeing as how you like Tony Jaa, maybe you need some fighting games to perk your interest lol. Well, I don't blame you because I don't expect everyone to like it, but what games have you played so far?
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#26 Dante2710
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did u pull the little switch behind ur console so ur playing on HD? no offense, either u have a really crappy TV or u need glasses
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#27 shinemeku_basic
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hehe maybe he should try n waste some 600$ on a ps3..lol...see if he gonna find a good game 2 play, and wii can be fun, but it gets boring faster than flash!! xbox live kick ass, tho it would had been even better if it was free, do i personally understand that at least we pay to have a good service !! on the live!! ....
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#28 BrokenStr8
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Maybe it's just the fact that you're using your 20" monitor and you're use to playing PC games on there with a kickass GPU.So you're comparing it to that.Really try it on a big HD TV if you can find one.I think it looks fantastic on my low-end 26" HD LCD TV.
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#29 Zendric
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The reason why you don't see a huge difference is that when the ebox is set to go below the HD settings it has some pretty hefty Antialiasing to a degree not implemented ont he higher settings. It helps make the non hd tv's still put nice picture. THe thing with the dell 20 inch is that a monitor that size is meant to run at about 1600x1050 (if its widescreen) or somethign close. The Xbox is doing ***roughly*** something comparable to 1024x768 or whatever the widescreen is, 1280x768 or something like that, pretty sure its lower though. Basically, if your comparing the 20 inch xbox pic to a 20 inch pc picture, well, of course you wont be impressed. Iguessed at most of these numbers, should be in the ballpark though.
Look a little close and you will see that the picture is sharper with an HDTV. Nothing that will blow some PC veterans away, but a nice improvement. I went from 640x480 edtv to my 1300ish x 760ish (some really wierd off the wall specific resolution I have never heard of) 32 incher and its nice, but again, the edtv had more antialiasing so it wasn;t amazingly noticeable. 
Xbox live......hmm...stay away form the popular games like gears and you should be able to avoid the kiddies. The fear community is small for example, but its some good people. Best advice for halo 3 launch is keep the mute on your headset handy. I know it is silly to avoid the big games to get mature people, but hey, somethings are out of our control.
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#30 soulswillcry
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Played XBOX360 on a normal T.V for about 1 month, then shifted to a moniter. The difference is huge.....

I wished gameplayhad changed to with the t.v :p

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#31 cwalters
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eh, probably dosen't really own a 360
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#32 teebeenz
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Another problem I have is Live, I'm sorry but it's not worth Au$80 a year. I live in Australia and a lot of the games I try to play I get too much lag. Luckily most of the games I enjoy are generally single player. And the general community on Live is a bunch of Racist kids yelling insults all the time. I tried the free month of Gold subscription but didn't want to continue with it.For your info, the previous gen I ownedonly a PS2. This gen I got a Wii on launch and a 360 after that.jay_Z_100
Alot of people dont realise how much Live is outside the US, it isnt chump change when the average wage is far lower.
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#33 Zeliard9
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The 360 itself in Australia is what, over $600? If you can afford that, you're not poor.
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#34 leonhead
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How do you know if your playing with Australians? I don't want that problem when i get LIVE
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Get yourself a nice HDTV & then come back & talk to us about it. The difference between SD & HD is night & day once you've played on a buff HDTV. And no, I'm not bragging or flaming you, I'm just letting you know how it is.

And the fact that Live costs so much in Aus is a bummer for you, but it doesn't at all change the fact that the service is fantastic & is easily the best console online setup to date.

ColoradoKindBud

It is night and day, particularly when you are comparing the Wii he owns to the 360. My guess is that he's a troll.

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#36 capthavic
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Did you switch the cable and dashboard settings to HD? I sure noticed a difference on my new 30" widescreen. And do you have a dial-up connection?

Anyway whatever dude.

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#37 nosferatu
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Part of the problem with the HDis that you are putting it on a small computer monitor which inherently brings in lots of problems.

1) The significance of HD becomes more readily apparent the bigger the screen gets

2) You probably aren't playing at the native resolution of your monitor which brings in some image problems

The difference between SD and HD is simply stunning. I tend to ignore the channels that aren't in HD now because the image graininess of SD really bothers me.

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#38 Lordknight125
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hey dude, before you ply make sure that you wear your glasses ok? but i agree with you, its lagging here sometimes
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#39 backinthekrak
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Man, don't sweat the wankers online. Like someone else said, make friends with 'normal' people you meet & keep in touch with them to play. Sorry you had a bad start / first impression with graphics & Live, but stick with it - I think you will come around. COME ON SOCCEROOS!!!
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HD in comparision to SD is huge. Maybe you didn't switch all the stuff over for HD (behind the unit and in the system settings). No matter what next gen HD gaming machine you get, it's not going to be the same in SD.

I have a 46" Samsung LCD HDTV. It blows my mind when I play games.

As for Xbox live, you're mostely right (in my opinion of course). Depending on the game you play, the kids are brats. Forza has a great community fortunatly. Shooters and such don't. Is it worth $50 a year to me? Hell yes! That's little over 4 dollars a month and I love Xbox live.

Chopmo81

I have to agree! My 360 looks much better on an HDTV as oppossed to an SDTV but it still looks good on SD which is really cool! It just shows you how good the graphics really are on the 360. Maybe you just need a better HD monitor or something...

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#41 jay_Z_100
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First of all I let me say I love the 360 and have many games including GoW, R6V, Kameo, Table Tennis, Topspin 2, Saints Row and some others. When it come to the graphics I'm not complaining about them directly they're a huge step ahead of last gen. It's just that I honestly expected more of a difference between SD and the monitor.

As for the monitor I am mainly a PC gamer and maybe I'm comparing the visuals to other PC games where you can turn the resolution way up.

For the people saying if you can affordthe console you can afford live, just because I can afford it doesn't meanI find it to be worth the asking pricefor the use. Ifsomeone offered you crap in a bag for$1 doesn't mean you would take it. (I'm not comparing Live to crap in a bag).

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#42 Cruzadr
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Yeah gamers in any country other than the almighty USA have been ripped off in that you can't actually see which games to join that are in your neighbourhood. The Forza community seems really good because of the depth of the game seems to frighten off mummy's boys that think swearing when mummy's downstairs on her back earning money to pay for broadband is heaps tuff ya'll....GANGSTA. If you want to see a difference in HD and SD try playing LOTR on a CRT, forget about it. I'm in Australia as well, as soon as Telstra has sorted its beef out with the ACCC the gamer community here will increase as more people will have ADSL2 thats affordable and it'll bring quality players that'll speak proper 'strayn with a sprinkling of 'hey bro' chucked in there too, persevere bro, in the meantime get Oblivion and wait for the revolution.

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$1 for fertilizer...bargain bro...SOLD!
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#44 nickdastick
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Yeah gamers in any country other than the almighty USA have been ripped off in that you can't actually see which games to join that are in your neighbourhood. The Forza community seems really good because of the depth of the game seems to frighten off mummy's boys that think swearing when mummy's downstairs on her back earning money to pay for broadband is heaps tuff ya'll....GANGSTA. If you want to see a difference in HD and SD try playing LOTR on a CRT, forget about it. I'm in Australia as well, as soon as Telstra has sorted its beef out with the ACCC the gamer community here will increase as more people will have ADSL2 thats affordable and it'll bring quality players that'll speak proper 'strayn with a sprinkling of 'hey bro' chucked in there too, persevere bro, in the meantime get Oblivion and wait for the revolution.

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