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#1 HilbillyRokstar
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I recently ran into a pinhead with the clan tag "KKK" in CoD and I confronted him about it with a messageabout where he deserves to spend eternity. The message he sent back was something to the effect of "Yea, I`ll be the one killing the n-----s" It amazes me that people like this are tolerated on XBL and if you would like his G.T. I will send it out if requested by I.M. Anyway, I sent out a text to my 60 or so XBL friends asking them to file a complaint, woundering if there is something else I should do considering the implied racial threat. What do you guys think?

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#2 Jaysonguy
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So you met someone online and decided the best course of action was to be just as bad as they are?

Next time just report them and they'll be dealt with

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#3 Innocentguy757
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Although I don't personally condone racism, as long as he wasn't bothering you or being blatantly racist, leave him be. It's America, he can have whatever views he chooses.
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#5 shawn7324
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I think you should just realize there are people every where that are ignorant & there always will, so as long as the guy isn't messing with you just don't mess with him.

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#6 HilbillyRokstar
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He made a racial threat, where are you guys from, that you don`t take these things seriously? In the real world, you are either part of the problem or part of the solution.

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#7 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Innocentguy757"]Although I don't personally condone racism, as long as he wasn't bothering you or being blatantly racist, leave him be. It's America, he can have whatever views he chooses.HilbillyRokstar
He was blatantly racist. Why don`t you guys stick your head back in the sand and wait for the problem to resolve itself?

Why didn't YOU solve the problem when you found it?

You messaged him with insults and told your friends? Did you also watch paint dry and grass grow? Two more things that do nothing except waste time

Microsoft has a zero tolerance policy when it comes to this, why didn't you just contact them?

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#8 Jaysonguy
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He made a racial threat, where are you guys from, that you don`t take these things seriously? In the real world, you are either part of the problem or part of the solution.

HilbillyRokstar

Still didn't answer why you chose to be part of the problem

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#9 haziqonfire
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You gave that guy way too much attention than he deserved. You know there are a lot of people like that around the world, and more people like that online because they can get away with more. Though you gave him wayyyy too much attention than he deserved. If It was me I wouldn't even bother because people like that aren't worth my time.
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#10 HilbillyRokstar
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[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]

He made a racial threat, where are you guys from, that you don`t take these things seriously? In the real world, you are either part of the problem or part of the solution.

Jaysonguy

Still didn't answer why you chose to be part of the problem

It is not a "problem" to confront racial hatred. I did nothing wrong and have since called XBL and they confirmed this and registered him for upper mngmt review.

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#11 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]

He made a racial threat, where are you guys from, that you don`t take these things seriously? In the real world, you are either part of the problem or part of the solution.

HilbillyRokstar

Still didn't answer why you chose to be part of the problem

It is not a "bad" thing to confront racism. I did nothing wrong and have since called XBL and they confirmed this and registered him for upper mngmt review.

Oh dear God, what you did was harass him. That means you're on the same level as he is now

Happy now?

All you need to do is contact Microsoft.

Instead you chose to break the rules (you better hope this guy is so angry about getting in trouble that he doesn't report you) and then make sure that all of your friends got in trouble filing false complaints

Gee, that's a great plan. Waste Microsoft's time and resources for a problem that could have been handled with one report

Next time just report them to Microsoft and be done with it, you'll make everyone day a lot easier.

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#12 HilbillyRokstar
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[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Still didn't answer why you chose to be part of the problem

Jaysonguy

It is not a "bad" thing to confront racism. I did nothing wrong and have since called XBL and they confirmed this and registered him for upper mngmt review.

Oh dear God, what you did was harass him. That means you're on the same level as he is now

Happy now?

All you need to do is contact Microsoft.

Instead you chose to break the rules (you better hope this guy is so angry about getting in trouble that he doesn't report you) and then make sure that all of your friends got in trouble filing false complaints

Gee, that's a great plan. Waste Microsoft's time and resources for a problem that could have been handled with one report

Next time just report them to Microsoft and be done with it, you'll make everyone day a lot easier.

Oh God all you did was confront me, why don`t you just stick your head back in the sand buddy. False complaints, really, why what they are complaining about is real.

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#13 g5velocity
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Did his clan KKK actually stand for Ku Klux Klan or something else? Saying "I like killing ni**ers" hardly means anything on XBL as black people also use that terminology for ANYBODY! Kids make up anything for attention without any thought and these members of the KKK CoD clan are probably not even racists. KKK probably stood for Keep Killing Klan or some shiet and more than likely got tired of getting unwanted private messages from strangers accusing them of being racists and responded with a sarcastic remark to invoke a flame war. The End.

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#14 HilbillyRokstar
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Did his clan KKK actually stand for Ku Klux Klan or something else? Saying "I like killing ni**ers" hardly means anything on XBL as black people also use that terminology for ANYBODY! Kids make up anything for attention without any thought and these members of the KKK CoD clan are probably not even racists. KKK probably stood for Keep Killing Klan or some shiet and more than likely got tired of getting unwanted private messages from strangers accusing them of being racists and responded with a sarcastic remark to invoke a flame war. The End.

g5velocity

Yes he said it does stand for that, and he was PROUD of it. Also he didn`t say I like killing, he said I will be the one killing, big difference.

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#15 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"] It is not a "bad" thing to confront racism. I did nothing wrong and have since called XBL and they confirmed this and registered him for upper mngmt review.HilbillyRokstar

Oh dear God, what you did was harass him. That means you're on the same level as he is now

Happy now?

All you need to do is contact Microsoft.

Instead you chose to break the rules (you better hope this guy is so angry about getting in trouble that he doesn't report you) and then make sure that all of your friends got in trouble filing false complaints

Gee, that's a great plan. Waste Microsoft's time and resources for a problem that could have been handled with one report

Next time just report them to Microsoft and be done with it, you'll make everyone day a lot easier.

Oh God all you did was confront me, why don`t you just stick your head back in the sand buddy. False complaints, really, why what they are complaining about is real.

Really? He messaged each and every one of your friends?

You somehow left that out of your story

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#16 shawn7324
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He made a racial threat, where are you guys from, that you don`t take these things seriously? In the real world, you are either part of the problem or part of the solution.

HilbillyRokstar
He made a threat after you messaged him, should have just ignored his ignorant butt. You keep letting these type people get to you & you give them what they want, so by all means make the guy happy.
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#17 HilbillyRokstar
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[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Oh dear God, what you did was harass him. That means you're on the same level as he is now

Happy now?

All you need to do is contact Microsoft.

Instead you chose to break the rules (you better hope this guy is so angry about getting in trouble that he doesn't report you) and then make sure that all of your friends got in trouble filing false complaints

Gee, that's a great plan. Waste Microsoft's time and resources for a problem that could have been handled with one report

Next time just report them to Microsoft and be done with it, you'll make everyone day a lot easier.

Jaysonguy

Oh God all you did was confront me, why don`t you just stick your head back in the sand buddy. False complaints, really, why what they are complaining about is real.

Really? He messaged each and every one of your friends?

You somehow left that out of your story

Where does it say you have to have a first hand confrontation. It is part of his profile where it says"Kx3".
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#18 HilbillyRokstar
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[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]

He made a racial threat, where are you guys from, that you don`t take these things seriously? In the real world, you are either part of the problem or part of the solution.

shawn7324
He made a threat after you messaged him, should have just ignored his ignorant butt. You keep letting these type people get to you & you give them what they want, so by all means make the guy happy.

Yea, I`m sure he will be happy when he or his xbox is suspended or banned from xbl.
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#19 Jaysonguy
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It is part of his profile where it says"Kx3".HilbillyRokstar

It doesn't even say KKK?

Yeah, good job

Did you forward his message to Microsoft?

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#20 HilbillyRokstar
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I also confronted a guy with g.t. "little boys 4 me". Was that wrong too? According to you guys I guess it was.

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#21 shawn7324
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[QUOTE="shawn7324"][QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]

He made a racial threat, where are you guys from, that you don`t take these things seriously? In the real world, you are either part of the problem or part of the solution.

HilbillyRokstar
He made a threat after you messaged him, should have just ignored his ignorant butt. You keep letting these type people get to you & you give them what they want, so by all means make the guy happy.

Yea, I`m sure he will be happy when he or his xbox is suspended or banned from xbl.

If you don't know these type people get off by pissing others off & making them feel bad, you made his day. He most likely will be back online some how anyways. I can't believe you actually allow such morons to bother you.
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#22 CrimsonBlade541
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I'm sure he wasn't racist, it probably was an act of attention. There are load of people like that on live unfortunately :| You'll just have to deal with people like that. You can report them, but I doubt it will truely do anything...

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#24 Jaysonguy
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I also confronted a guy with g.t. "little boys 4 me". Was that wrong too? According to you guys I guess it was.

HilbillyRokstar

Oh well, that's different

Seriously?

YOU confronted it? Because what power do YOU have on Live?

I'm just wondering of course because you're gonna go take care of all this bad stuff on the service you must have some sort of great power to change things

So what do you do?

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#25 HilbillyRokstar
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[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]

I also confronted a guy with g.t. "little boys 4 me". Was that wrong too? According to you guys I guess it was.

Jaysonguy

Oh well, that's different

Seriously?

YOU confronted it? Because what power do YOU have on Live?

I'm just wondering of course because you're gonna go take care of all this bad stuff on the service you must have some sort of great power to change things

So what do you do?

Whatever it takes to do the right thing.
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#26 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]

I also confronted a guy with g.t. "little boys 4 me". Was that wrong too? According to you guys I guess it was.

HilbillyRokstar

Oh well, that's different

Seriously?

YOU confronted it? Because what power do YOU have on Live?

I'm just wondering of course because you're gonna go take care of all this bad stuff on the service you must have some sort of great power to change things

So what do you do?

Whatever it takes to do the right thing.

Elaborate please

So far you've said that taking care of things means a stern talking to, because I'm sure that does a world of good

So really, go on, please tell

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#27 shawn7324
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]

I also confronted a guy with g.t. "little boys 4 me". Was that wrong too? According to you guys I guess it was.

HilbillyRokstar

Oh well, that's different

Seriously?

YOU confronted it? Because what power do YOU have on Live?

I'm just wondering of course because you're gonna go take care of all this bad stuff on the service you must have some sort of great power to change things

So what do you do?

Whatever it takes to do the right thing.

Well you do that, I'll just ignore everything & game on. Good Luck to you & Good Gaming!!!
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#28 HilbillyRokstar
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[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Oh well, that's different

Seriously?

YOU confronted it? Because what power do YOU have on Live?

I'm just wondering of course because you're gonna go take care of all this bad stuff on the service you must have some sort of great power to change things

So what do you do?

Jaysonguy

Whatever it takes to do the right thing.

Elaborate please

So far you've said that taking care of things means a stern talking to, because I'm sure that does a world of good

So really, go on, please tell

Recognizing and confronting the problem is the first step. I asked you what to do, wise guy , and all you did was confront me. I`m done talking to you now, God bless you and have a nice day.
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#29 stupid4
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Although I don't personally condone racism, as long as he wasn't bothering you or being blatantly racist, leave him be. It's America, he can have whatever views he chooses.Innocentguy757

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#30 stupid4
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Even if he was spouting racist filth out of his mouth, he does have the right to say it.

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#31 HilbillyRokstar
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Even if he was spouting racist filth out of his mouth, he does have the right to say it.

stupid4
And I have the God given right to confront it.
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#32 darthsnail
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yu could have reported him ect, and done it by the book, which a good idea,

but i think i speak for many of us here when i say you shud have ripped him 2 shreds

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#33 mrgrins
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I recently ran into a pinhead with the clan tag "KKK" in CoD and I confronted him about it with a messageabout where he deserves to spend eternity. The message he sent back was something to the effect of "Yea, I`ll be the one killing the n-----s" It amazes me that people like this are tolerated on XBL and if you would like his G.T. I will send it out if requested by I.M. Anyway, I sent out a text to my 60 or so XBL friends asking them to file a complaint, woundering if there is something else I should do considering the implied racial threat. What do you guys think?

HilbillyRokstar
According to your orginal post here, you instigated the conflict. You didn't like his GT, messaged him and told him he should basically go to hell. Did something happen before this? How would you expect someone to respond? File a complaint with MS and leave it at that. Get your friends to file complaints too if that makes you feel better. If someone intentionally tags themselves a racist, they are probably looking for people to call them out so they can show how 'awesome' they are.
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[QUOTE="stupid4"]

Even if he was spouting racist filth out of his mouth, he does have the right to say it.

HilbillyRokstar
And I have the God given right to confront it.

If you want to be a crusader, do it somewhere else. He was wrong for saying that stuff but you should have just reported it and not made this into a bigger problem then it is. If you listen to half the crap people say on XBL then you would have your hands full trying to rid everybody. Honestly it upset you and you reported it now let go and grow up. Holding onto it and getting upset about it like you have been when people weigh in on it with their own opinion is counter productive. If you dont want to hear what others say then dont ask. And please, dont come back with some stupid line like go bury my head in the sand because if so, you should do the same because you can't see people are going to say and act however they want on here. Best thing is to get over it and move on.
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#35 shawn7324
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[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]

I recently ran into a pinhead with the clan tag "KKK" in CoD and I confronted him about it with a messageabout where he deserves to spend eternity. The message he sent back was something to the effect of "Yea, I`ll be the one killing the n-----s" It amazes me that people like this are tolerated on XBL and if you would like his G.T. I will send it out if requested by I.M. Anyway, I sent out a text to my 60 or so XBL friends asking them to file a complaint, woundering if there is something else I should do considering the implied racial threat. What do you guys think?

mrgrins
According to your orginal post here, you instigated the conflict. You didn't like his GT, messaged him and told him he should basically go to hell. Did something happen before this? How would you expect someone to respond? File a complaint with MS and leave it at that. Get your friends to file complaints too if that makes you feel better. If someone intentionally tags themselves a racist, they are probably looking for people to call them out so they can show how 'awesome' they are.

His friends wouldn't be able to file a complaint over the comment made via message, only himself could do that. So all his friends would be filing a complaint for someone whom has a tag labeled KKK, which ultimately isn't going to be hammered down by MS. So TC just has his complaint of the message he received, however since the guy was retaliating to the TC's message MS won't be able to do anything there either.
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#37 CrimsonBlade541
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I'm sure he wasn't racist, it probably was an act of attention. There are load of people like that on live unfortunately :| You'll just have to deal with people like that. You can report them, but I doubt it will truely do anything...

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#38 HilbillyRokstar
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[QUOTE="mrgrins"][QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]

I recently ran into a pinhead with the clan tag "KKK" in CoD and I confronted him about it with a messageabout where he deserves to spend eternity. The message he sent back was something to the effect of "Yea, I`ll be the one killing the n-----s" It amazes me that people like this are tolerated on XBL and if you would like his G.T. I will send it out if requested by I.M. Anyway, I sent out a text to my 60 or so XBL friends asking them to file a complaint, woundering if there is something else I should do considering the implied racial threat. What do you guys think?

shawn7324
According to your orginal post here, you instigated the conflict. You didn't like his GT, messaged him and told him he should basically go to hell. Did something happen before this? How would you expect someone to respond? File a complaint with MS and leave it at that. Get your friends to file complaints too if that makes you feel better. If someone intentionally tags themselves a racist, they are probably looking for people to call them out so they can show how 'awesome' they are.

His friends wouldn't be able to file a complaint over the comment made via message, only himself could do that. So all his friends would be filing a complaint for someone whom has a tag labeled KKK, which ultimately isn't going to be hammered down by MS. So TC just has his complaint of the message he received, however since the guy was retaliating to the TC's message MS won't be able to do anything there either.

How do you know that, the specialist for xbl could only say that if what happened was true, this person would be dealt with in a serious manner, which could include banning or suspending him or his xbox or both.
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#39 Dave_442
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I would probably just have reported him and got on with it. No sense giving racist idiots any more attention than necessery.

Also if threads were started to discuss racial abuse on Xbox Live these boards would be swamped. It's clearly wrong and I understand your pissed but you filed your complaint.

In my opinion there is no point giving fools like that more of your time by bringing it up here.

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#40 HilbillyRokstar
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Ok, obviously if you send anyone a message saying they deserve to be in hell they are not going to be friendly back, you don't even know him and you are judging him, maybe you are being prejudice yourself.

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The same type of prejudice I would have if I saw a crime being committed.
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#41 HilbillyRokstar
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I would probably just have reported him and got on with it. No sense giving racist idiots any more attention than necessery.

Also if threads were started to discuss racial abuse on Xbox Live these boards would be swamped. It's clearly wrong and I understand your pissed but you filed your complaint.

In my opinion there is no point giving fools like that more of your time by bringing it up here.

Dave_442

The reason I brought it up was to try to figure out whether or not to call xbl, which I have since done after talking a couple of my xbl friends, one of which works in law enforcement.

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#43 brandontwb
Member since 2008 • 4325 Posts
I think you should have just filed a complaint and not communicate with him. Insulting him really does nothing when you think about it.
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#45 HilbillyRokstar
Member since 2007 • 3236 Posts

Being racist isn't a crime, we live in a FREE country, we can hate who ever we want as long as we don't harass or hurt them.

harperseth
Saying you will be the one killing them is.
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#47 Jaysonguy
Member since 2006 • 39454 Posts

[QUOTE="harperseth"]

Being racist isn't a crime, we live in a FREE country, we can hate who ever we want as long as we don't harass or hurt them.

HilbillyRokstar

Saying you will be the one killing them is.

Wrong

I come from a military and law enforcement background, I don't have to ask friends for their advice when it comes to this

He said he would be doing these things in Hell which guess what? Doesn't matter

Again, you took a bad situation and made it worse

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#48 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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So you met someone online and decided the best course of action was to be just as bad as they are?

Next time just report them and they'll be dealt with

Jaysonguy

agreed

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#49 HilbillyRokstar
Member since 2007 • 3236 Posts
[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"][QUOTE="harperseth"]

Being racist isn't a crime, we live in a FREE country, we can hate who ever we want as long as we don't harass or hurt them.

harperseth
Saying you will be the one killing them is.

Ok, well you need to get some thicker skin if you cant handle that kind of stuff over a game, If you cant just ignore dumb people you wont get far in this world.

Let me get this right, in order to succeed in todays world I need a higher tolerance for evil and racial hatred? Sorry I guess I will continue to fail in life and leave my family name the honor that was passed down to me.
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#50 H0LLAT1P
Member since 2008 • 215 Posts

I also confronted a guy with g.t. "little boys 4 me". Was that wrong too? According to you guys I guess it was.

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well I'm glad me have a BA like yourself to help keep xbox live clean, you're doing an awesome job. /sarcasm But honestly, if that kinda stuff upsets you that bad you may want to cancel your membership. If this stuff makes you that mad, you may want to stay off xbox live.