Lets all calm down and think logically about BANJO KAZOOIE: NUTS AND BOLTS

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#1 sk8ter33157
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Okay, I haven't seen this much hate for a game announcement in a while. People are, to put it frankly, furious. I have seen people posting about how RARE has "ruined their lives." A little dramatic don't you think.

However, I too am disappointed with the direction Rare chose to take this game. It would have seemed logcial to give Banjo fans a nostalgic, familiar take on the franchise, especially on the platfromer starved 360. Plus, the original trailer did seem to hint at a platformer. The choice they made seems stupid, and so does the "square" Banjo design. Wtf. The story also seems ridiculous (even more so that the previous games). The LOG has forced Grunty and Banjo to do battle in "game spheres?" Dumb.

Now, we need to accept the fact that we are not getting the Banjo Threeie we wanted and are stuck with Nuts and Bolts. The good news is the game looks fantastic in it's own right. But I do get the feeling that maybe the Banjo name shouldn't have been used on the game but whatever. Previews of the game have been overwhelmingly positive, so thats a good place to start. The vehicular creation actually does look veyr deep and well thought out, and not just a shallow gimmick. The physics and the vehicles all tie together and look like they will create a fun gameplay mechanic.

And people: RARE ONLY SHOWED ONE LEVEL OF THE GAME!!! And it is possible that the vehicular portion of the game isnt as much of the game as we think. Of course they are going to want to show it off during the announcement of the game, but aybe there is more platforming than we think. I think the biggest problem with the way people are seeing this game is that Rare probably showed off a crappy level. It's way to flat, as compared to the towering and creative levels of the previous games. Hopefully the other levels in the game aren't as flat and bland. We'll see....lets not pass judgement.

The graphics are killer too. But has anybody else noticed that the cobblestones look very flat and low res, definitely not bump mapped and pretty like in Kameo.

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#2 g33zer
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I dont want to build a car which seems like it will take a fairly long time to get right, i want to vget into the action and beat the living hell out of gruntilda again. I want to run around amazing expansive levels, collect and complete the story whilst coming involved in the game. Not build cars, lego lets me build cars.

My life has been ruined, dont judge me. There are no platformers on the 360 to be honest.

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#3 kozzy1234
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The old Banjoo games where great and Kameo is very underrated and a fantastic, beautiful game.

Ill be getting the new Banjoo without a doubt

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#4 kozzy1234
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I dont want to build a car which seems like it will take a fairly long time to get right, i want to vget into the action and beat the living hell out of gruntilda again. I want to run around amazing expansive levels, collect and complete the story whilst coming involved in the game. Not build cars, lego lets me build cars.

My life has been ruined, dont judge me. There are no platformers on the 360 to be honest.

g33zer

Kameo is out on the 360 and its awesome.. dont let the LOOK of the game fool you. Its not just a game for kids only, adults and older teenagers would like Kameo if they gave it a chance. IMO the only platformer this gen that is better then Kameo is MARIO GALAXY, and thats it. I enjoy Kameo more then the newest Ratchet and Clank

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#5 capthavic
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Finally a voice of reason.
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#6 g33zer
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Ratchet and Clank isnt really that good tbf, Galaxy is awe inspiring. Kameo is a good game, but its the only real good game of its kind on 360, platforming should stick to the roots in my opinion, bear in mind its only an opinion. I just wanted a perfect BAnjo :'(

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#7 kozzy1234
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Ratchet and Clank isnt really that good tbf, Galaxy is awe inspiring. Kameo is a good game, but its the only real good game of its kind on 360, platforming should stick to the roots in my opinion, bear in mind its only an opinion. I just wanted a perfect BAnjo :'(

g33zer

I agree with what you said

Who knows though, the new Banjoo might just have one or two driving levels, and the rest of the levels like the old school Banjoo. We really dont know, but i HIGHLY doubt the full game will be driving.

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#8 sly_fiz
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last i remember banjo kazzoie games were for 9-10 year olds. i dont understand why teenagers and grown adults are bickering over how bad it will be more than 3rd graders! they'll buy the game and enjoy it and not care while we're all on game forums being nit -picky about every detail of it :/
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#9 sk8ter33157
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last i remember banjo kazzoie games were for 9-10 year olds. i dont understand why teenagers and grown adults are bickering over how bad it will be more than 3rd graders! they'll buy the game and enjoy it and not care while we're all on game forums being nit -picky about every detail of it :/sly_fiz
last i remember banjo kazzoie games were for 9-10 year olds. i dont understand why teenagers and grown adults are bickering over how bad it will be more than 3rd graders! they'll buy the game and enjoy it and not care while we're all on game forums being nit -picky about every detail of it :/sly_fiz

Last I remember Banjo Kazooie wasn't meant for any specific age group. Last I remember just because a game isn't filled with hookers and guns doesn't mean it can't be play by grown, mature adults like you soo clearly are sir. Last I remember, not every game must be Grand Theft Auto. Last I remember the Banjo series received a 9.5 and a 9.6 on gamespot. Last I remember third graders didn't write those reviews. Last I remember the people bickering over the new game WERE 3rd graders when the last games were released. Go play GTA because you clearly aren't mature enough to see past an aesthetic level.Your clearly to mature for this game

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#10 blue_tape
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This thread has ruined my life!
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#11 Elann2008
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They clearly stated Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts will still feature signature platforming but with a twist. That twist being the racing part of it. It's not that bad. This will be great for multiplayer online. And vehicle creation sounds pretty cool. Yeah, sure, most of us would like for Rare to stick to it's roots but a change isnt always bad. A lot of people complained that Halo 3 was disappointing because it didnt do anything new. But now that a game like BK:N&B tries to do something new, it fails miserably? Dont judge a book by it's cover. It's too early to tell. Judge it once you've played it already.
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#12 PlasmaBeam44
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The old Banjoo games where great and Kameo is very underrated and a fantastic, beautiful game.

Ill be getting the new Banjoo without a doubt

kozzy1234

Me too.

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#13 ziproy
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It just makes me angry because RARE is only doing this to attract more HALO oriented people.

They destoryed a perfectly good series to appeal to the main stream (which is always bad)

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#14 sly_fiz
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[QUOTE="sly_fiz"]last i remember banjo kazzoie games were for 9-10 year olds. i dont understand why teenagers and grown adults are bickering over how bad it will be more than 3rd graders! they'll buy the game and enjoy it and not care while we're all on game forums being nit -picky about every detail of it :/sk8ter33157

Last I remember Banjo Kazooie wasn't meant for any specific age group. Last I remember just because a game isn't filled with hookers and guns doesn't mean it can't be play by grown, mature adults like you soo clearly are sir. Last I remember, not every game must be Grand Theft Auto. Last I remember the Banjo series received a 9.5 and a 9.6 on gamespot. Last I remember third graders didn't write those reviews. Last I remember the people bickering over the new game WERE 3rd graders when the last games were released. Go play GTA because you clearly aren't mature enough to see past an aesthetic level.Your clearly to mature for this game

well i bet you feel proud of yourself after that paragraph of thought out, educated, eloquent writing.
oh, & "last i remember" you don't have to be a doushebag when it's uncalled for

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#15 crazymunda6
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Woah WOAH WOAH...I Log onto Gamespot right now and then i see a post of Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts?? What happend to banjo threeie. Maaaaan the screwed it up, i was like REALLY REALLY REALLY looking forward to this game, cuz i serously spent the better half of my childhood playing the previous installments of the game. God, like many others i believe my life has been destroyed. Like how can you take a simple game like banjo tooie and kazooie and just screw it up like that, like all they had to do was like make the same type of gamplay with prolly new moves, levels and whle nine yards, and it could have done better than halo 3. NOW with vehicles, the fun part of platforming should the walking should it not. Walking and exploring to find new and hidden stuff. Man looking at this brings a very large tear out of my eye, and i believe that my inner child has been utterly destroyed. THANKS RAR, JUST THANKS :(
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#16 Big_player
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This seems to be xbox players fallout 3, both amazing franchises with sequels coming out soon. Both sequels will probably be great but will not stick to the original formula which angers long tim efans.
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#17 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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i lol'd at "ruined their lives"

just great.

it's stupid to get that upset, but hey, if the announcement of a new banjo game gets them that upset, let it be.

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#18 destinhpark
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No matter what you say, there are still going to be longtime fans (such as myself) that will be extremely dissapointed in Rare for taking an entirely new route to their classic franchise.

Why couldn't we just have some good ole Banjo fun? Lame.

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#19 sk8ter33157
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No matter what you say, there are still going to be longtime fans (such as myself) that will be extremely dissapointed in Rare for taking an entirely new route to their classic franchise.

Why couldn't we just have some good ole Banjo fun? Lame.

destinhpark

I'm a longtime fan too, in fact, Rare is/was one of my favorite developers (I loved PDZ and Kameo btw). I was deeply disappointed when I saw the first leaked screenshots on kotaku. However, I am trying to express a more positive, faithful opinion in the new direction banjo has taken. We shouldn't jump off the good ship banjo just yet....we have seen less than 5 minutes of gameplay!

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#20 sk8ter33157
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I have never seen a negative response as overwhelming as this. People are pretty passionate about their hate for the new game. Wow. Maybe the response will be so negative Rare will actually have to change some things. I'm shocked
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#21 PlasmaBeam44
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Would you rather it looks like this?

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#22 sk8ter33157
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lmao
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#23 dark_mask_91
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Would you rather it looks like this?

PlasmaBeam44
lol Banjo never looked so good.
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#24 king-kill33
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im sorry, i do love my 360. but i find it ever so satisfying that ever since microsofts acquisition of rare all they have churned out is quite frankly sub perfection, its just to me rare were always so nintendo-e-fied anyway. from most companies its acceptable, but rare were on fire when making games for the n64, not so much anymore it seems. im hoping that this game turns out to be amazing, maybe theres alot more to it than meets the eye