i just started noticing my 5 year old unit to be very nosiy on start up. i think its the HDD sound i can hear! coz tis loud spinning noise sperarte from the other noises even when there is no disc in the drive.
Saving games to your hard drive can help with some of the noise - you still need the disc to play but becuase it's reading off the hard drive instead of the disc it's a bit quieter. They are all loud though!
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