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#1 Cujo31
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Could this kind of story sparkdevelopment of more games surrounding halo from bungie? Given though that halo 3 is the "end"

This came up inother threadsand I thought i'd post a link about it, it came up in talk about Halo 4 and instead of trying to put this in a Halo 3 sticky where it might flood the thread with Halo 4 talk or other talk I though I'd create a new thread.

Here's a link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_Trilogy

Thoughs surrounding new games out of the "halo" universe?

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#2 outbreak201
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marathon takes place like a idk 10 or something years before halo : CE
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#3 Cujo31
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isn't the year of Halo 1 2 and 3in the year 2552? This Marathon game takes place 200 years after....
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#4 outbreak201
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isn't the year of Halo 1 2 and 3in the year 2552? This Marathon game takes place 200 years after....Cujo31

lol idk i wasnt sure if it were before or after...and also the years....i guess marathon takes place 200 years after halo

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I read in the article that Bungie says there is no relation to the 2 games, but they can take the Marathon idea for new "Halo" based game(s)

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I read in the article that Bungie says there is no relation to the 2 games, but they can take the Marathon idea for new "Halo" based game(s)

Cujo31

lol i read in an game informer that there is relation in the 2 games

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#7 yencanwasu
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the longer they stretch out the end of halo the less exciting it becomes they ended it well with halo3 now let it be a legend already.
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[QUOTE="Cujo31"]

I read in the article that Bungie says there is no relation to the 2 games, but they can take the Marathon idea for new "Halo" based game(s)

outbreak201

lol i read in an game informer that there is relation in the 2 games

That's because Halo is sort of a spiritual successor to Marathon. Read up on it if you're interested. And just so you know, you'll notice the Marathon symbol on the hull of The Pillar of Autumn. Both games use the mjolnir armor. And loads of other things. I haven't properly played any Marathon games, but yes, Halo can be interpretted as a spiritual successor, or even a spiritual superior, to Marathon. (You know Halo kicks ass.)

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Bungies next game will be Marathon and Master Chief and Cortana tie into the story. There will be no Halo 4.
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#10 Packt
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Bungies next game will be Marathon and Master Chief and Cortana tie into the story. There will be no Halo 4. BioShockOwnz

Link?

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Bungies next game will be Marathon and Master Chief and Cortana tie into the story. There will be no Halo 4. Packt

Link?

There is no link, but this is common knowledge if you played marathon and recently saw the complete halo 3 ending.

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#12 RocKtheCasbaH
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Marathon was the game that Halo was born from.

Regarding the Halo 4 speculation... I don't want to spoil too much it for those who haven't seen Halo 3's ending but watch the cgi after the credits have finished and listen to what Master Chief says. I wouldn't expect H4 for a few years but it's definitley not a write off.

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SPOILER WARNING SPOILER WARNING

With most people beating the campaign and seeing the legendary ending of how Master Chief is floating towards a distant planet, many people are wondering, is Halo finished what is going to happen to Master Chief?

During the ending Cortana States that it may be "years" before anybody finds them.

I read in an old EGM or Game Informer article called Forging a Link, It tries to show the ties that master Chief has to Marathon Man. The most notible being that they both wear MJOLNIR Armor and are both cyborgs more importantly. Now the human race first made contact with the covenant in 2525, about 27 years before the original halo which takes place in 2552.

Each sequel to Halo has not followed immediatly after, so if we look at it in real time (everytime they've released a halo) it's been about 6 years, which mean everything finally comes to a head, master chief and the arbiter take out the prophet of truth and the flood and destroy in 2562.

That Means that Marathon is exactly 228 years after the events of Halo. Now on to the link that Master Chief could possibly linked to Marathon.

Some of us are achievement goers on our xbox 360's and we all know that there were termianls linked to a acheivement called marathon man, this acheievment let us in on some information about the forerunners and how a huge threat brought them to an end, that doesn't mean that they could have spread and got away.

Now seeing that they went through a portal their, what seemed like an instant could have been years, or maybe not. But we know that Master Chiefs half of the ship got sperated because when the portal was closing it burnt the ship in half.Now knowing that he is drifting towards a planet, it could possible be a planet of the forerunners or a planet where marathon takes place, who knows, i am not completely sure myself.

Don't forget master chief goes into a cryo sleep at the end of the game meaning he could have slept for these 228 years, and he could awaken, Halo is finished, the tagline "finish the fight" is appropriate, because you do, but it seems a new one is at hand regardless of what Master Chief finds.

Most importantly i want to leave you thinking with something, His final words are "wake me when you need me..." now if they are drifting towards a planet, cortana is going to have to let him in on this, so this shows that he will be waked at some point and need to be shown where he has ended up.

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^Wow, you post makes a lot of sense. It would be nice if they make another Halo game(or at least a game with MC on it).

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#16 KoRn_Eddy_88
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Marathon was the game that Halo was born from.

Regarding the Halo 4 speculation... I don't want to spoil too much it for those who haven't seen Halo 3's ending but watch the cgi after the credits have finished and listen to what Master Chief says. I wouldn't expect H4 for a few years but it's definitley not a write off.

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beat the last level on legendary and you deff can't write it off

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#17 Animal-Mother
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There will be a new game, it won't be called halo, and plus to all these people think that bungie is developing halo wars, Their not ensemble studios is, so if bungie has a game in development, it might well be the next master chief adventure
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#18 Fhiz
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marathon takes place like a idk 10 or something years before halo : CEoutbreak201

wrong. Marathon takes place like 200 years after Halo, meaning that

[spoiler] After MC hits the sleeping chamber, and in the legendary ending you see it floating to a unknown planet after an uknown amount of time. Which brings up Marathon's protaganist a cyborg that crash landed on a planet brought out of a cryo chamber who is quote a "timeless hero" aka MC. Martaon trilogy = Halo 4 5 6 [/spoiler]

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#19 Animal-Mother
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Dude Your totally right Flawless and plus in my post i explain the difference of years and stuff its actually 228 years
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#20 spazzx625
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The only flaw is that Marathon was already a trilogy...I don't think they would backtrack and remake the trilogy. The stuff all fits, I'm not denying that, but I think it fits more as an homage to Marathon fans than setting up a "sequel".

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#21 zeroncali
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The only flaw is that Marathon was already a trilogy...I don't think they would backtrack and remake the trilogy. The stuff all fits, I'm not denying that, but I think it fits more as an homage to Marathon fans than setting up a "sequel".

spazzx625

I agree, I believe that the Halo series is actually a prequel to Marathon. Bungies next game won't be Halo and most likley will not have the MC in it.

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#22 Animal-Mother
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Master Chief Is money in the bank, they sold what like 124 millon in 24 hours, thats alot. If they brought him back it'd be even more
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Master Chief Is money in the bank, they sold what like 124 millon in 24 hours, thats alot. If they brought him back it'd be even moreAnimal-Mother

There are lots of things that are money in the bank...It doesn't mean they should be run into the ground.

See "Star Wars" for more info...

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See "Star Wars" for more info...

Wish I had thought of that one... its good.

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#25 Animal-Mother
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Most people do run it into the ground though. I mean if you played bioshock its an amazing game, their already talking about a sequel it would be really lame if they did that
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#26 Cujo31
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There are two ways anything can go when talking about sequels, and if its done right everytime a story can go on for a long time....I mean someone pointed out star wars, there are somethings that are a little dragged out but for the most partthe Star Wars universis so huge and there a lot of time lines you can indulge youself into that a lot of it doesn't drag its own name into the dirt. Halo's universe, if done right, I'm sure can keep its head above water and with good taste.
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Nope. They are two different stories.
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Marathon was made by a very very different bungie than todays.
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Marathon was made by a very very different bungie than todays.teebeenz

But it's still Bungie nonetheless...

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[QUOTE="outbreak201"][QUOTE="Cujo31"]

I read in the article that Bungie says there is no relation to the 2 games, but they can take the Marathon idea for new "Halo" based game(s)

NeonNinja

lol i read in an game informer that there is relation in the 2 games

That's because Halo is sort of a spiritual successor to Marathon. Read up on it if you're interested. And just so you know, you'll notice the Marathon symbol on the hull of The Pillar of Autumn. Both games use the mjolnir armor. And loads of other things. I haven't properly played any Marathon games, but yes, Halo can be interpretted as a spiritual successor, or even a spiritual superior, to Marathon. (You know Halo kicks ass.)

gulty sparks little light is also a marathoin symbol
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If that marathon is 200 something years after halo then maybe the planet master chief and cortana are drifting to has some kind of human or something on it and then master chief gets married and that marathon guy can be master chief's great great grandson or something.lol
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If that marathon is 200 something years after halo then maybe the planet master chief and cortana are drifting to has some kind of human or something on it and then master chief gets married and that marathon guy can be master chief's great great grandson or something.lolalamgir1942

Cheif's too big for any ordinary girl. He needs a fellow spartan Lady. Which i think there are two left by the names of Linda(the sniper) and Kelly(the speedster).

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Bungie's current stance is that the two series are not related to each other.[2]
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SPOILER WARNING SPOILER WARNING

With most people beating the campaign and seeing the legendary ending of how Master Chief is floating towards a distant planet, many people are wondering, is Halo finished what is going to happen to Master Chief?

During the ending Cortana States that it may be "years" before anybody finds them.

I read in an old EGM or Game Informer article called Forging a Link, It tries to show the ties that master Chief has to Marathon Man. The most notible being that they both wear MJOLNIR Armor and are both cyborgs more importantly. Now the human race first made contact with the covenant in 2525, about 27 years before the original halo which takes place in 2552.

Each sequel to Halo has not followed immediatly after, so if we look at it in real time (everytime they've released a halo) it's been about 6 years, which mean everything finally comes to a head, master chief and the arbiter take out the prophet of truth and the flood and destroy in 2562.

That Means that Marathon is exactly 228 years after the events of Halo. Now on to the link that Master Chief could possibly linked to Marathon.

Some of us are achievement goers on our xbox 360's and we all know that there were termianls linked to a acheivement called marathon man, this acheievment let us in on some information about the forerunners and how a huge threat brought them to an end, that doesn't mean that they could have spread and got away.

Now seeing that they went through a portal their, what seemed like an instant could have been years, or maybe not. But we know that Master Chiefs half of the ship got sperated because when the portal was closing it burnt the ship in half.Now knowing that he is drifting towards a planet, it could possible be a planet of the forerunners or a planet where marathon takes place, who knows, i am not completely sure myself.

Don't forget master chief goes into a cryo sleep at the end of the game meaning he could have slept for these 228 years, and he could awaken, Halo is finished, the tagline "finish the fight" is appropriate, because you do, but it seems a new one is at hand regardless of what Master Chief finds.

Most importantly i want to leave you thinking with something, His final words are "wake me when you need me..." now if they are drifting towards a planet, cortana is going to have to let him in on this, so this shows that he will be waked at some point and need to be shown where he has ended up.

Animal-Mother
WOW!!!! good job that makes a lot of sense and seems very possible
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there will most likely be a hol 4 or whatever they decide to calli it because mc makes money and we all know almost all the ppl with xbox will buy the game if bungie made it including me so yes i believe there will be another game to wrap up this story
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[QUOTE="alamgir1942"]If that marathon is 200 something years after halo then maybe the planet master chief and cortana are drifting to has some kind of human or something on it and then master chief gets married and that marathon guy can be master chief's great great grandson or something.lolsuperstud101

Cheif's too big for any ordinary girl. He needs a fellow spartan Lady. Which i think there are two left by the names of Linda(the sniper) and Kelly(the speedster).

i thought kelly was his sister? MC that is

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I heard that at the end of The Book Halo ghost of Onyx that some spartans got trapped on the planet onyx while looking for forerunner tech. and the planet the the ship is heading to is onyx and the chief is going to go save them. IDK if its true just something i read online
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[QUOTE="superstud101"]

[QUOTE="alamgir1942"]If that marathon is 200 something years after halo then maybe the planet master chief and cortana are drifting to has some kind of human or something on it and then master chief gets married and that marathon guy can be master chief's great great grandson or something.lolKoRn_Eddy_88

Cheif's too big for any ordinary girl. He needs a fellow spartan Lady. Which i think there are two left by the names of Linda(the sniper) and Kelly(the speedster).

i thought kelly was his sister? MC that is

You couldn't be more wrong dude. I'm pretty sure all the spartans are non-related.

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[QUOTE="KoRn_Eddy_88"][QUOTE="superstud101"]

[QUOTE="alamgir1942"]If that marathon is 200 something years after halo then maybe the planet master chief and cortana are drifting to has some kind of human or something on it and then master chief gets married and that marathon guy can be master chief's great great grandson or something.lolsuperstud101

Cheif's too big for any ordinary girl. He needs a fellow spartan Lady. Which i think there are two left by the names of Linda(the sniper) and Kelly(the speedster).

i thought kelly was his sister? MC that is

You couldn't be more wrong dude. I'm pretty sure all the spartans are non-related.

didn't he have a sister in fall of reach though? i could have sworn her name was kelly too...coicidence?

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after finishing halo 3 in legendary, i dowloaded the marathon games, and at the mains screen says:

"Relieve the Dream"

Also in the manual says: " You can almost imagine the face of a wicked computer with its eyes wide and its lips folding out in a grotesque smile. A smile which reminds you of something from your past, but you can't remember exactly what it is. "( page 3)

You pull out your pistol, and pound the switch to open the door. Oddly , this is familiar to you, as if it were from an old dream, but you can't exactly remember... (page 4)

and also in the series it is told that you are not a human and there is all this thing about a missing cyborg( i think thry are referring to SPARTANs) and it is possible that you are him.

Also if you play the marathon series( they are free now) you'll notice that your hand looks a lot like MC's , thats mainly because you are usin a Mark IV or V armor , like MC...

for more info: http://marathon.bungie.org/story/you.html

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[QUOTE="superstud101"][QUOTE="KoRn_Eddy_88"][QUOTE="superstud101"]

[QUOTE="alamgir1942"]If that marathon is 200 something years after halo then maybe the planet master chief and cortana are drifting to has some kind of human or something on it and then master chief gets married and that marathon guy can be master chief's great great grandson or something.lolKoRn_Eddy_88

Cheif's too big for any ordinary girl. He needs a fellow spartan Lady. Which i think there are two left by the names of Linda(the sniper) and Kelly(the speedster).

i thought kelly was his sister? MC that is

You couldn't be more wrong dude. I'm pretty sure all the spartans are non-related.

didn't he have a sister in fall of reach though? i could have sworn her name was kelly too...coicidence?

It can't be a coincidence if you are wrong.
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#42 JiMMay4ShiZZay
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MC didnt have a sister that is known of, def not a spartan, if the books are the officail story, MC was snatched off the playground so to speak after they decided he was good enough to be a spartan

btw i dunno about u guys but im gettin worked up about halo 5

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Does anyone know why Guilty Spark's eye is the marathon symbol?
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Marathon and Halo are both created by bungie but they have said that the games arent related

and their will be no halo 4

but myabe something else with the cheif in it

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Bungie themselves have constantly said master cheifs story arc has ended. But if they feel like they aren't going anywhere with something soon I could see them remaking a couple of their older titles or add something to finally put master cheifs life to a end. I was hoping they would have done it instead of leaving us with the legendary ending making us ask more questions what is to happen then answer them with this final installment.
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I read in the article that Bungie says there is no relation to the 2 games, but they can take the Marathon idea for new "Halo" based game(s)

Cujo31

The former founder/CEO of Bungie, after Halo 1 was out, said that Master Chief and the main character from the Marathon games are the same character. But Bungie denied it a while after. But if I were to listen to anyone on that rumor, it would be the Creator/CEO.

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[QUOTE="outbreak201"]marathon takes place like a idk 10 or something years before halo : CEFlawlessSeasons

wrong. Marathon takes place like 200 years after Halo, meaning that

So does this mean Bungie is pulling a George Lucas on us? :lol:
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

SPOILER WARNING SPOILER WARNING

With most people beating the campaign and seeing the legendary ending of how Master Chief is floating towards a distant planet, many people are wondering, is Halo finished what is going to happen to Master Chief?

During the ending Cortana States that it may be "years" before anybody finds them.

I read in an old EGM or Game Informer article called Forging a Link, It tries to show the ties that master Chief has to Marathon Man. The most notible being that they both wear MJOLNIR Armor and are both cyborgs more importantly. Now the human race first made contact with the covenant in 2525, about 27 years before the original halo which takes place in 2552.

Each sequel to Halo has not followed immediatly after, so if we look at it in real time (everytime they've released a halo) it's been about 6 years, which mean everything finally comes to a head, master chief and the arbiter take out the prophet of truth and the flood and destroy in 2562.

That Means that Marathon is exactly 228 years after the events of Halo. Now on to the link that Master Chief could possibly linked to Marathon.

Some of us are achievement goers on our xbox 360's and we all know that there were termianls linked to a acheivement called marathon man, this acheievment let us in on some information about the forerunners and how a huge threat brought them to an end, that doesn't mean that they could have spread and got away.

Now seeing that they went through a portal their, what seemed like an instant could have been years, or maybe not. But we know that Master Chiefs half of the ship got sperated because when the portal was closing it burnt the ship in half.Now knowing that he is drifting towards a planet, it could possible be a planet of the forerunners or a planet where marathon takes place, who knows, i am not completely sure myself.

Don't forget master chief goes into a cryo sleep at the end of the game meaning he could have slept for these 228 years, and he could awaken, Halo is finished, the tagline "finish the fight" is appropriate, because you do, but it seems a new one is at hand regardless of what Master Chief finds.

Most importantly i want to leave you thinking with something, His final words are "wake me when you need me..." now if they are drifting towards a planet, cortana is going to have to let him in on this, so this shows that he will be waked at some point and need to be shown where he has ended up.

ronnie_m17

WOW!!!! good job that makes a lot of sense and seems very possible

Ok you said that Cortana could wake Master Chief when he is needed. (Here comes the big but) BUT, smart AI's like Cortana are developed using actual Human neural patterns and the consequence of this is that these smart AI's only have a life span of seven years until they "die". So there is no way that unless the MC and Cortana find something within the next five or six years she will be alive to wake him. The creation of Cortana is discussed in the first Halo book.

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#49 Animal-Mother
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Well thank you for your insight, as i mention if the game moves along with the years of the releases it'll be that many years, maybe cortana dies in the next one that will end it all