Mass Effect 2 and the removal of New Game+

maybe they are just trying to get you to start a different character with a different class, it really does change the gameplay

It really doesn't bother me as playing through it again as an extremely high level character is dull unless they added an extremely high difficulty that made it impossible unless you level up a character first.

I'm pretty sure that's not the reason why they're doing it. They are removing it because of laziness. Bioware doesn't want to waste time testing the feature. I'm pretty sure that taking the time to test the feature will be worth it.ChaosTheory345

[QUOTE="ChaosTheory345"]I'm pretty sure that's not the reason why they're doing it. They are removing it because of laziness. Bioware doesn't want to waste time testing the feature. I'm pretty sure that taking the time to test the feature will be worth it.Doomtime

I can see the advantage of a New Game+ feature if the game is really challenging, and involves you rushing through certain areas to stop from being killed or something, but Mass Effect was never difficult. There was never anything that really stopped you from being able to fully explore the areas the first-time through.

I could care less that they removed this feature. If it means they get to work more on other features, or if it means they dont have to delay the game, then I'm all for it.

[QUOTE="Doomtime"][QUOTE="ChaosTheory345"]I'm pretty sure that's not the reason why they're doing it. They are removing it because of laziness. Bioware doesn't want to waste time testing the feature. I'm pretty sure that taking the time to test the feature will be worth it.ChaosTheory345

It's because EA is running the show now. Yeah that's right, I said it.

I'm sorry. What exactly is this feature? I only made it up to level 58, but I'm not quite understanding how this feature works. Is there a link or something I can read about it?

Since you can cotinue playing past the ending of ME2 they will probably make so that there are enough quests and XP oppurtunities that you won't need a second playthrough to max your character. I'll let you think on that for a while.RAMRODtheMASTER

I'm sorry. What exactly is this feature? I only made it up to level 58, but I'm not quite understanding how this feature works. Is there a link or something I can read about it?

Sharpie125

You've never played a game with New Game+ ? After you finish the game and save, you can start a new game from the beginning with the character you finished it with, keeping all of the items and stats and stuff. It can be fun if they make a harder difficulty to play it on so it's still a challenge.

[QUOTE="Doomtime"][QUOTE="ChaosTheory345"]I'm pretty sure that's not the reason why they're doing it. They are removing it because of laziness. Bioware doesn't want to waste time testing the feature. I'm pretty sure that taking the time to test the feature will be worth it.ChaosTheory345

That doesn't prove anything. Just because it takes testing and time doesn't mean that this IS the reason that it was cut from ME2. Thats just pure speculation.

Oh is that what it is. Just keeping on all your stats from one playthrough to the next? 'Cause I'm on my 3rd playthrough currently. Didn't know it was called New Game +.

[QUOTE="RAMRODtheMASTER"]Since you can cotinue playing past the ending of ME2 they will probably make so that there are enough quests and XP oppurtunities that you won't need a second playthrough to max your character. I'll let you think on that for a while.ChaosTheory345

I'm sorry. What exactly is this feature? I only made it up to level 58, but I'm not quite understanding how this feature works. Is there a link or something I can read about it?

Sharpie125

[QUOTE="ChaosTheory345"][QUOTE="Doomtime"] I'm sorry but how do you know? And calling Bioware lazy? ?DeadlyZodiac

It's because EA is running the show now. Yeah that's right, I said it.

Bingo. If they ruin this game, I'll kill them.

[QUOTE="ChaosTheory345"][QUOTE="Doomtime"] I'm sorry but how do you know? And calling Bioware lazy? ?seankane

That doesn't prove anything. Just because it takes testing and time doesn't mean that this IS the reason that it was cut from ME2. Thats just pure speculation.

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[QUOTE="ChaosTheory345"] I know it's unusual but it's true. Go to the adress I gave you, one of their devs said NG+ took a lot of testing and time. Here's what they said: "We feel NG+ would be to hard and time consuming to implement". If you still don't believe me you can go to the ME2 forums and see it yourself. I would post a link but I don't know how to do that in these forums.ChaosTheory345

That doesn't prove anything. Just because it takes testing and time doesn't mean that this IS the reason that it was cut from ME2. Thats just pure speculation.

It's not like it'll affect the game that much. Beat the game, play it again as a different class or, better yet, play another game. Get a new experiance. You can't expect Mass Effect 2 to last until 3.

A dev said that. What else do you want? A recording? Go see for yourself if you don't believe me it's all written in Biowares forums. To whoever said about Bioware not letting you max out your character without NG+. I didn't say that I said that there might be nothing to do after you beat the game.ChaosTheory345

A developer said that New Game+ takes a lot of time and testing, but did they say that this is the REASON it wont be in the game?

[QUOTE="ChaosTheory345"]A dev said that. What else do you want? A recording? Go see for yourself if you don't believe me it's all written in Biowares forums. To whoever said about Bioware not letting you max out your character without NG+. I didn't say that I said that there might be nothing to do after you beat the game.seankane

A developer said that New Game+ takes a lot of time and testing, but did they say that this is the REASON it wont be in the game?

Nope. ChaosTheory simply jumped to conclusions.

[QUOTE="ChaosTheory345"]A dev said that. What else do you want? A recording? Go see for yourself if you don't believe me it's all written in Biowares forums. To whoever said about Bioware not letting you max out your character without NG+. I didn't say that I said that there might be nothing to do after you beat the game.seankane

A developer said that New Game+ takes a lot of time and testing, but did they say that this is the REASON it wont be in the game?

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[QUOTE="ChaosTheory345"]A dev said that. What else do you want? A recording? Go see for yourself if you don't believe me it's all written in Biowares forums. To whoever said about Bioware not letting you max out your character without NG+. I didn't say that I said that there might be nothing to do after you beat the game.ChaosTheory345

A developer said that New Game+ takes a lot of time and testing, but did they say that this is the REASON it wont be in the game?

I AM helping. And I'm not 'believing' anything. You could be right. I never said you weren't. You just keep trying to declare something as fact when you have shown that its nothing but speculation.

[QUOTE="ChaosTheory345"][QUOTE="seankane"]

A developer said that New Game+ takes a lot of time and testing, but did they say that this is the REASON it wont be in the game?

seankane

I AM helping. And I'm not 'believing' anything. You could be right. I never said you weren't. You just keep trying to declare something as fact when you have shown that its nothing but speculation.

You know, you complain a lot. Bioware is letting you use your Shepard from Mass Effect 1 in Mass Effect 2. That should be enough for you. It is for everyone else.

Ok, ChaosTheory, maybe you dont seem to understand the progression of this discussion. First you start off saying that its just laziness. We question you further and you actually provide a quote, saying:

"Here's what they said: "We feel NG+ would be to hard and time consuming to implement"."

Yet I dont see that anywhere in that dev's comments. All the developer is saying is that they want to find the best solution for acheiving what the fans want. Yes, he says that NG+ is not simple to implement, but he never says it absolutely wont be implemented, and he also never says that if it is taken out, that its BECAUSE of the hard work. He says specifically that NG+ is just one solution for acheiving what the fans want.

You are just jumping to conclusions, plain and simple.

Im not buying it now.

Im not buying it now.

petros753

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or what.

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Im not buying it now.

Phoenix534

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or what.

Sarcasm :)

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[QUOTE="petros753"]

Im not buying it now.

petros753

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or what.

Sarcasm :)

Gotcha. I don't see what the big deal is with no New Game +. Isn't it enough that everything you did in Mass Effect, including choices and character, carry over into Mass Effect 2?

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[QUOTE="petros753"]

Im not buying it now.

petros753

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or what.

Sarcasm :)

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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or what.

craigalan23

Sarcasm :)

Yeah. :P

[QUOTE="Doomtime"][QUOTE="ChaosTheory345"]I'm pretty sure that's not the reason why they're doing it. They are removing it because of laziness. Bioware doesn't want to waste time testing the feature. I'm pretty sure that taking the time to test the feature will be worth it.ChaosTheory345

"We replaced that feature(New Game +) with playing after you were done because it preserves progression and allows for smoother downloading of PRC(Post Release Content).``

Preston Watamaniuk

http://meforums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?topic=683695&forum=144

Second Dev Post on Page 1

"We replaced that feature(New Game +) with playing after you were done because it preserves progression and allows for smoother downloading of PRC(Post Release Content).``

Preston Watamaniuk

Link

Second Dev Post on Page 1

dlindenb2000

Wait a minute WTF happens if u didnt play the first one

Wait a minute WTF happens if u didnt play the first one

x8VXU6

You just create a character and go on at lvl 1(or maybe 60, I don't know)

Why would you buy the 2nd one having not played the first. Doomtime

Good question

Why dont they just carry personality traits and certain skill traits. They dont necessarily have to carry on the whole character onto the second game.strawberry9

It's for the better. It makes it feel more of a continuation than a storyline sequel.

[QUOTE="dlindenb2000"][QUOTE="ChaosTheory345"] I know it's unusual but it's true. Go to the adress I gave you, one of their devs said NG+ took a lot of testing and time. Here's what they said: "We feel NG+ would be to hard and time consuming to implement". If you still don't believe me you can go to the ME2 forums and see it yourself. I would post a link but I don't know how to do that in these forums.raahsnavj