Mass Effect = Jade Empire, KOTR and KOTR2

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#1 LeperMessiahXX9
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Why is everyone so hyped for this game? I mean really. It's the exact same mechanics as Knights of the Old Republic and Jade Empire. They just threw a different wrapper on it.

I wish Bioware would pull their heads out of their sphincters and try something new. I would love to see a GOOD RPG on the 360. BTW I do not consider Blue Dragon a good RPG. IT's generic and boring. Although admittedly I have not tried Eternal Sonata, so I can't judge that. I want some Final Fantasy, (not online either), or maybe some Dragon Quest. Why can't Squaresoft create good RPG's for the 360 instead of crap like Sylpheed. ~sigh~

Nope instead we are stuck with crap from Bioware...YAY :?

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#2 _Tobli_
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Bioware is a great developer. Bioware didn't make KOTR2. ME is a great game. The 360 doesn't get FF or any other major JRPG because their main market it Japan.
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#3 Xerlaoth
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Why is everyone so hyped for this game? I mean really. It's the exact same mechanics as Knights of the Old Republic and Jade Empire. They just threw a different wrapper on it.

I wish Bioware would pull their heads out of their sphincters and try something new. I would love to see a GOOD RPG on the 360. BTW I do not consider Blue Dragon a good RPG. IT's generic and boring. Although admittedly I have not tried Eternal Sonata, so I can't judge that. I want some Final Fantasy, (not online either), or maybe some Dragon Quest. Why can't Squaresoft create good RPG's for the 360 instead of crap like Sylpheed. ~sigh~

Nope instead we are stuck with crap from Bioware...YAY :?

LeperMessiahXX9

The combat is completely different. The setting is completely different. The graphics are completely different.

pppppppppppphail, i'd expect more of a metal fan.

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#4 johnr2806
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Why is everyone so hyped for this game? I mean really. It's the exact same mechanics as Knights of the Old Republic and Jade Empire. They just threw a different wrapper on it.

LeperMessiahXX9

you could say something to the vast majority of new release games.

eternal sonata is an amazing jrpg for the 360 get that. if u like dragon quest than blue dragon might be for u, its character design and artwork is by akira toriyama who did dq journey of the cursed king and the dragon ball series'.

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#5 TheGTAvaccine
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I honestly, honestly, could not disagree with you more.
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#6 destinhpark
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Are you kidding? Bioware creates some of the best RPG's around...Mass Effect will blow your mind. Quote me.
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#7 RojAvon
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Why is everyone so hyped for this game? I mean really. It's the exact same mechanics as Knights of the Old Republic and Jade Empire. They just threw a different wrapper on it.

I wish Bioware would pull their heads out of their sphincters and try something new. I would love to see a GOOD RPG on the 360. BTW I do not consider Blue Dragon a good RPG. IT's generic and boring. Although admittedly I have not tried Eternal Sonata, so I can't judge that. I want some Final Fantasy, (not online either), or maybe some Dragon Quest. Why can't Squaresoft create good RPG's for the 360 instead of crap like Sylpheed. ~sigh~

Nope instead we are stuck with crap from Bioware...YAY :?

LeperMessiahXX9

If you think the mechanics are "exactly the same" then you need to do some reasearch on this game. Besides, while apparently you didn't enjoy those games, lots and lots of people did. You like different types of RPG's...fine...go play one. But why rip a company for making a game with similarities to other great games they created previously?

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#8 judas-savior
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Mass Effect has progressed so far from KOTOR and Jade Empire that you oculd not be more wrong.. sorry dude
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#9 LeperMessiahXX9
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Wow Touchy subject...

All I meant was that to me it looks like KOTR and JE. And I've played those...

PERIOD>END OF SENTENCE.

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#10 Kennyofhearts
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Well dude just cause it's made by the same developer doesn't mean it will necessarily it'll be the same game. Sure it has RPG elements like it's predecessors and a great story as well, but other than that there totally different games. It's as simple as this; if you don't think it'll be good don't get it, it's your loss.

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#11 magic_dragon
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Why do you mention Blue Dragon at all? It may not have been good but its not at all related to Bioware (who ALSO made Baldurs Gate 2, which in my view is the best PC game ever made). As for Mass Effect, it looks awesome, and though it borrows elements from KOTOR, that game rocked, so I don't see the problem. I agree that more RPGs are needed on the 360 and Sqaresoft is as good as dead now (Mistwalker is the future, mark my words) but slagging off good game developers like Bioware is hardly going to encourage new RPG titles.

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#12 zaphod_b
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Apart from the combat, the setting, the story, and the vast interactivity with NPC characters, they are exactly the same. You're right.
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#13 15Ocelot
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I think that nothing can be better than KOTOR:!

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#14 Mr_Dunce
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no good rpgs?

dont u remeber that small game oblivion

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#15 shiram
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infinite undiscovery, the last remnant might fill your rpg needs
from square and an offh-shoot of square
no solid release dates though

as for ME, why mess with a winning idea? and its not like they havent improved either

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#16 ISuperGamerI
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Wow Touchy subject...

All I meant was that to me it looks like KOTR and JE. And I've played those...

PERIOD>END OF SENTENCE.

LeperMessiahXX9

Then why did you even bother creating this topic?

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#17 dan_3
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Mass Effect is a very fun game, it looks alot like KOTR in terms of camera angles and what not, but the game has a fantastic story line and the random upgrades to your guns and what not are quite a bit of fun to screw around with. Also the character creation is very well done. The only issue is it gets bogged down and slows down like KOTR does. Either way I'm about 3 hours into it and it's so far very interesting. No I didn't buy the game it's called modding your 360, the game went online about a week ago.

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#18 great_rulo
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i pretty much think that this game copied the resident evil 4 camera, the gameplay of ghost recon, and the enviroment of battle star galactica and all those nerd things, the graphics suck and looks just like COD3 or medal of honor airborne(look at the textures) so, the transformers game, Bee the movie game and ratatouille>mass effect

and u cant tell me troll because this is not thefail effect topic, so i say that this is the most overated game ever( even more than H3) and sucks.

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#19 gizmo12345
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Why is everyone so hyped for this game? I mean really. It's the exact same mechanics as Knights of the Old Republic and Jade Empire. They just threw a different wrapper on it.

I wish Bioware would pull their heads out of their sphincters and try something new. I would love to see a GOOD RPG on the 360. BTW I do not consider Blue Dragon a good RPG. IT's generic and boring. Although admittedly I have not tried Eternal Sonata, so I can't judge that. I want some Final Fantasy, (not online either), or maybe some Dragon Quest. Why can't Squaresoft create good RPG's for the 360 instead of crap like Sylpheed. ~sigh~

Nope instead we are stuck with crap from Bioware...YAY :?

LeperMessiahXX9

you obviously dont read much. Mass Effect isnt just jade empire and KOTOR. Its a lot more, they are games that you would select an attack and do it (accept jade empire). games that were easily done in less than a week. but still they were awsome right ? anyway to my point mass effect isnt just an rpg its an fpsrpg- u can go into 1st person. its mainly shooting. you can controll the future of the human race e.g making allies destroying planets and races. even raging wars. loadsa different outcomes unlike biowares old games. the attacking system is so much better and deifferent and so is the realistic experience. its based on teh future of mankind and other races.

do you see now its much much more than just another of biowares games - its their new era. Also you ask for a brilliant rpg on 360 - are you mad we have fable 2 on its ways although it wont be for a good year yet, but why not buy oblivion you can get hours of fun out of that. Just read more and open your eyes to more games.

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#20 gizmo12345
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Wow Touchy subject...

All I meant was that to me it looks like KOTR and JE. And I've played those...

PERIOD>END OF SENTENCE.

LeperMessiahXX9
dont see how u think it looks like those cus in the majority of photos they all show you what the shooting and new system of cambat is like and it cains. its so much better and completely different to before
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i pretty much think that this game copied the resident evil 4 camera, the gameplay of ghost recon, and the enviroment of battle star galactica and all those nerd things, the graphics suck and looks just like COD3 or medal of honor airborne(look at the textures) so, the transformers game, Bee the movie game and ratatouille>mass effect

and u cant tell me troll because this is not thefail effect topic, so i say that this is the most overated game ever( even more than H3) and sucks.

great_rulo

Wow you're totally right, I never noticed that, Mass Effect is 4 teh gays.
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#22 tonymatt225
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LOL I LOVE ALL THREE = THE BEST RPG EVER MADE IN THE GALAXY!!

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#23 Kobewars87
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i wasnt that big into KOTOR or JADE EMPIRE, and im not big into many RPG's, but ME looks amazing. From what i've seen of the combat it looks like the RPG i've been waiting for. I wish Epic would make a Gears RPG like this. Or a Gears MMORPG with the same battle mechanics. the ability to rage wars in an entire city that consist entirely of online players would be insane, and impossible to pull off most likely.
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#24 ISuperGamerI
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[QUOTE="great_rulo"]

i pretty much think that this game copied the resident evil 4 camera, the gameplay of ghost recon, and the enviroment of battle star galactica and all those nerd things, the graphics suck and looks just like COD3 or medal of honor airborne(look at the textures) so, the transformers game, Bee the movie game and ratatouille>mass effect

and u cant tell me troll because this is not thefail effect topic, so i say that this is the most overated game ever( even more than H3) and sucks.

childe_roland


Wow you're totally right, I never noticed that, Mass Effect is 4 teh gays.

Lol. This guy obviously does not know what he is talking about and sounds like a lame troll. Resident Evil 4 = Bad, Ghost Recon = Bad, Call of Duty 3 = Bad, Medal of Honor Airborne = Bad, what game is Good then?

I also want to mention that you say the Transformers, Bee Movie and Rataouille game have better graphics then Mass Effect and overall are a better game. May I ask what type of drug you are using?

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#25 kapp1
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Why is everyone so hyped for this game? I mean really. It's the exact same mechanics as Knights of the Old Republic and Jade Empire. They just threw a different wrapper on it.

I wish Bioware would pull their heads out of their sphincters and try something new. I would love to see a GOOD RPG on the 360. BTW I do not consider Blue Dragon a good RPG. IT's generic and boring. Although admittedly I have not tried Eternal Sonata, so I can't judge that. I want some Final Fantasy, (not online either), or maybe some Dragon Quest. Why can't Squaresoft create good RPG's for the 360 instead of crap like Sylpheed. ~sigh~

Nope instead we are stuck with crap from Bioware...YAY :?

LeperMessiahXX9
You haven't played the game, I assume. If you had, you would know that Mass Effect is very different from the games you listed (and also much better). Combat is a blast (plays similar to Gears of War), the dialogue system is much improved, the graphics are excellent, and the story is original and one of the most immersive I've ever encountered in a videogame. And that's only scratching the surface. Next time you attempt to bash a game, at least bring an informed opinion to the table.
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#26 gizmo12345
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to sum it up youre wrong its not like them at all. and its not rubbish.
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#27 tgschmidt
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May I ask what type of drug you are using?

ISuperGamerI
adrenochrome. and he took too much :)
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#28 ISuperGamerI
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[QUOTE="ISuperGamerI"]

May I ask what type of drug you are using?

tgschmidt

adrenochrome. and he took too much :)

Seems logical.

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#29 LeperMessiahXX9
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Bioware is a great developer. Bioware didn't make KOTR2. ..._Tobli_

Really? Are ya sure about that? MIght wanna do some more research next time.

KOTOR

Published by:LucasArts
Developed by:BioWare
Genre:RPG
Number of Players: 1
Release Date:
US: July 15, 2003
MSRP: $19.99

ESRB Content Descriptors: Mild Realistic Violence

Also Available On:PC, Macintosh

Features: 480p Support, Dolby Digital 5.1, Downloadable Content

KOTOR2

Published by:LucasArts
Developed by:Obsidian Entertainment / BioWare
Genre:RPG
Number of Players: 1
Release Date:
US: December 6, 2004
MSRP: $19.99

ESRB Content Descriptors: Blood, Violence

Features: Memory Unit

You will notice on both who the developers are.

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#30 LeperMessiahXX9
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Why do you mention Blue Dragon at all? It may not have been good but its not at all related to Bioware (who ALSO made Baldurs Gate 2, which in my view is the best PC game ever made). As for Mass Effect, it looks awesome, and though it borrows elements from KOTOR, that game rocked, so I don't see the problem. I agree that more RPGs are needed on the 360 and Sqaresoft is as good as dead now (Mistwalker is the future, mark my words) but slagging off good game developers like Bioware is hardly going to encourage new RPG titles.

magic_dragon

I mentioned Blue Dragon to emphasize my point about the lack of , (in my opinion), good quality RPG's on the 360. I know it was not created by Bioware, nor did I mention that it was.

Chill out.

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#31 LeperMessiahXX9
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[QUOTE="LeperMessiahXX9"]

Wow Touchy subject...

All I meant was that to me it looks like KOTR and JE. And I've played those...

PERIOD>END OF SENTENCE.

ISuperGamerI

Then why did you even bother creating this topic?

Why did you bother replying?

Why waste the effort?

"Who's more the fool? The fool or the fool who follows him?"

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#32 LeperMessiahXX9
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dont see how u think it looks like those cus in the majority of photos they all show you what the shooting and new system of cambat is like and it cains. its so much better and completely different to before

you obviously dont read much....

Oh I'm glad to see you have a firm grasp on the English language. "CUS" I must have been totally misinformed about the "CAMBAT".

You might want to consider reading. Try a book. Grammar is not your strong point is it? Think about the words before you say them.

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#33 judas-savior
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Chill Out

LeperMessiahXX9

dont see how u think it looks like those cus in the majority of photos they all show you what the shooting and new system of cambat is like and it cains. its so much better and completely different to before

you obviously dont read much....

Oh I'm glad to see you have a firm grasp on the English language. "CUS" I must have been totally misinformed about the "CAMBAT".

You might want to consider reading. Try a book. Grammar is not your strong point is it? Think about the words before you say them.

You all need to chill.. Play the damn game and then judge for youself, as it doesn't really matter what the reviewers think, what the users of gamespots forums think or what even I think.. If you like it then its for you as there have been games so hyped and loved by all and yet ive hated them ya know.. reviews and opinions mean **** if you like it its good if you don't then its bad.. problem solved?.