Microsoft just screwed the young fans :(

i truely believe that majority of people who use MSN are younger than 18.

I am 17, why in the blue hellam I not allowed to use MSn on the stupid 360?

 "Windows Live Messenger is not available from a Windows Live child account"

WTF is this BS, i waited a good 2 months for it to come, now they got rid of it?

wtf BS! :cry:

stupd thing, and you cant' even change it in the settings. Stupid, now I have to wait a year cause when i caled them before, they said i couldn't change my e-mail addresses :(

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it's not just their "young fans".  I was 17 when I set up my Live account last year, I'm not almost 19 and I have the same problems as everyone else.  Microsoft didn't put in any age-detection that would let your console know WHEN you turned 18.  So as long as you created a Live account before you were 18, you will never have these features unless Microsoft fixes it.

I find this unlikely as they are the ones who had to put in the code to display the "Msn Messenger cannot be used on a Child account" message.  Meaning, they knew this was going to happen.

My biggest problem isn't the lack of MSN (because I'm 17, and 13/14 when created my account) - it's the fact they KNEW (as mentioned by another poster) exactly what they were doing - limiting its use to only 18+ users. Why, in those thousands of press releases, did they fail to mention that tidbit of info?

They got soo many people excited, for no reason. Good going, MS.

God dammit

I guess I will need to make a new XBL account when this one runs out, stil got a damn year for that

I hate this BS!

:cry:

I still don't get this, why aren't we allowed to change our e-mails? Cause the one i use isn't used for messenger,so even if i had messenger i wouldn't have friends to talk to.

But it's the principal, they should allow you to change that MSN thing in the family settings, or atleast allow us to call MS and have them change are e-mails, and age etc.

If your age is too low for microsoft's standards and cannot use windows live messenger try the following:

-Try going onto hotmail.com and changing your birthdate. Log in, click options in the upper right hand area, click personal, and change your age (years) to make you older.

-Try going to account management on the xbox 360 dashboard, i don't know where it is anymore because of the new change. Once in account management look around because i don't fully remember where the age is.

One of these will work as these are the only age information that microsoft will look at. Try it and see it if it works. hope it helps

THanks for the help,  but I think the problem is, that my e-mail has a parent account attached to it, i nee to remove the parent account and make 1 e-mail the adult account

ut noooooooo you can't do that, stupid MS! first they don't give movies, trailers to canada, now they won't let me go on MSN

god dammit

Theirs no way of changing the age... or anything...

Basically i've come to this conclusion. M$ have set this update so they can get more money, from young people setting up new gamertags, and buying the 12 month subscriptions. Because they cant change their age and get some of the good features which over 18's get.

M$ have gone down that road.....

i have the same problem, i'm 18, account registered when i was 17, so now i can't use the messenger thing because it doesn't realise i got older by a year, i called customer support and they asked me to change my age on my hotmail address, so i made my birthdate 1970, still nothing, they promtly told me i need to make a new gamertag.

so all my gamerpoints will go away, all my stats, my created character in vegas and other games reliant on my current gamertag, and i have a years worth of gold i'd have to cancel and sort out. What makes it worse is that it even says a happy birthday message......happy birthday you just got 0 years older.
also....theorhetically, in order to make a new gamertag i'd need a new hotmail address............I DON'T WANT A NEW ONE, ALL MY FRIENDS ARE ON THIS ONE!

lmao you guys ACTUALLY put in your real age?? im 17 and i got my 360 last year of september and i said i was older than 19 so i dotn have all those limits and restrictions.Screamin_EaGLes

I think it's safe to assume that a majority of the people bought their 360's at launch and weren't aware of this problem. 

[QUOTE="Screamin_EaGLes"]lmao you guys ACTUALLY put in your real age?? im 17 and i got my 360 last year of september and i said i was older than 19 so i dotn have all those limits and restrictions.SPHYNXA

I think it's safe to assume that a majority of the people bought their 360's at launch and weren't aware of this problem.

the stupid thing is, you are allowed to go on msn on the pc at any age, but why cant it just be the same for the box

STUPID!

i truely believe that majority of people who use MSN are younger than 18.

I am 17, why in the blue hellam I not allowed to use MSn on the stupid 360?

 "Windows Live Messenger is not available from a Windows Live child account"

WTF is this BS, i waited a good 2 months for it to come, now they got rid of it?

wtf BS! :cry:

stupd thing, and you cant' even change it in the settings. Stupid, now I have to wait a year cause when i caled them before, they said i couldn't change my e-mail addresses :(

 

Guess_With_ReX

you're supposed to be 18 to have XBL

i have the same problem, i'm 18, account registered when i was 17, so now i can't use the messenger thing because it doesn't realise i got older by a year, i called customer support and they asked me to change my age on my hotmail address, so i made my birthdate 1970, still nothing, they promtly told me i need to make a new gamertag.

so all my gamerpoints will go away, all my stats, my created character in vegas and other games reliant on my current gamertag, and i have a years worth of gold i'd have to cancel and sort out. What makes it worse is that it even says a happy birthday message......happy birthday you just got 0 years older.
also....theorhetically, in order to make a new gamertag i'd need a new hotmail address............I DON'T WANT A NEW ONE, ALL MY FRIENDS ARE ON THIS ONE!

cikame

[QUOTE="Guess_With_ReX"]

i truely believe that majority of people who use MSN are younger than 18.

I am 17, why in the blue hellam I not allowed to use MSn on the stupid 360?

"Windows Live Messenger is not available from a Windows Live child account"

WTF is this BS, i waited a good 2 months for it to come, now they got rid of it?

wtf BS! :cry:

stupd thing, and you cant' even change it in the settings. Stupid, now I have to wait a year cause when i caled them before, they said i couldn't change my e-mail addresses :(

kieran88

you're supposed to be 18 to have XBL

This makes no sense why would they put a age restriction on this but they wouldnt on games like Gears Of War. But this sucks i cant use msn on 360 and ive been waiting for it for ages!Benjef

There is an age restriction on Gears of War. It's called an ESRB rating.

Aw, that sucks. I was already over 18, so, I am sure I won't have the problem. But what's the point for age limitation? Someone is going to "type" a pron picture on the net?magicalclick

You'd think that they'd just have included another restriction option under parental controls, so that those of us who got shafted by making our accounts at 17 would be able to use the messenger. 

[QUOTE="Benjef"]This makes no sense why would they put a age restriction on this but they wouldnt on games like Gears Of War. But this sucks i cant use msn on 360 and ive been waiting for it for ages!Southwind20C

There is an age restriction on Gears of War. It's called an ESRB rating.

[QUOTE="Southwind20C"]

[QUOTE="Benjef"]This makes no sense why would they put a age restriction on this but they wouldnt on games like Gears Of War. But this sucks i cant use msn on 360 and ive been waiting for it for ages!SPHYNXA

Recommendation, not a restriction.  Don't get the two confused.

There is an age restriction on Gears of War. It's called an ESRB rating.

I think you mistyped and put what you meant to say in your quote. If that's so then....try walking into EB Games being 16 and buying a mature game. Then tell me it's a "recommendation."

[QUOTE="Guess_With_ReX"]

i truely believe that majority of people who use MSN are younger than 18.

I am 17, why in the blue hellam I not allowed to use MSn on the stupid 360?

"Windows Live Messenger is not available from a Windows Live child account"

WTF is this BS, i waited a good 2 months for it to come, now they got rid of it?

wtf BS! :cry:

stupd thing, and you cant' even change it in the settings. Stupid, now I have to wait a year cause when i caled them before, they said i couldn't change my e-mail addresses :(

 

kieran88

you're supposed to be 18 to have XBL

not really because you have a parent account, but they should be able to change it so you can use it. 

silly microsoft!

how do they manage to do such a good job of screwing people over!! lol 

Just another glaring oversight on the part of lazy MS programmers. Jees, I really wish I knew what was going on over there in Redmond. Even a basic programmer could write a simple code to increment your age each year from when you signed up.CaptainCrazy

Yes, I'm sure those "lazy programmers could". But pushy consumers demand instant gratification (instant messaging on a console.....I'm still like "wtf") and deadlines get set. Deadlines get set and programmers miss things in a rush. Then pushy consumers get angry at programmers and wonder why the hell it isn't working properly.

 I was 17 when I set up my Live account last year, I'm not almost 19 and I have the same problems as everyone else. 

SPHYNXA

The same thing has happened to me. Why do I have a child account when I'm 18?

[QUOTE="CaptainCrazy"]Just another glaring oversight on the part of lazy MS programmers. Jees, I really wish I knew what was going on over there in Redmond. Even a basic programmer could write a simple code to increment your age each year from when you signed up.Southwind20C

Yes, I'm sure those "lazy programmers could". But pushy consumers demand instant gratification (instant messaging on a console.....I'm still like "wtf") and deadlines get set. Deadlines get set and programmers miss things in a rush. Then pushy consumers get angry at programmers and wonder why the hell it isn't working properly.

Maybe you don't understand how fundamentally SIMPLE this change would be. It's such a gastly oversight for them not to take care of this issue. I know MS works hard to try and make Windows more user friendly for the average person but it seems they're always screwing up and making stupid mistakes that could easily be avoided and customers have to deal with the frustration. 

i truely believe that majority of people who use MSN are younger than 18.

I am 17, why in the blue hellam I not allowed to use MSn on the stupid 360?

 "Windows Live Messenger is not available from a Windows Live child account"

WTF is this BS, i waited a good 2 months for it to come, now they got rid of it?

wtf BS! :cry:

stupd thing, and you cant' even change it in the settings. Stupid, now I have to wait a year cause when i caled them before, they said i couldn't change my e-mail addresses :(

 

Guess_With_ReX

a paedophille can have a VOICE CHAT with kids over xbox live, however you cant do the exact same thing that you would do on the PC, talk to the EXACT same people that you would do on a PC, this is total rubbish, im 16 i use msn all the time to talk to my friends why cant i do that on a 360?

i truely believe that majority of people who use MSN are younger than 18.

I am 17, why in the blue hellam I not allowed to use MSn on the stupid 360?

 "Windows Live Messenger is not available from a Windows Live child account"

WTF is this BS, i waited a good 2 months for it to come, now they got rid of it?

wtf BS! :cry:

stupd thing, and you cant' even change it in the settings. Stupid, now I have to wait a year cause when i caled them before, they said i couldn't change my e-mail addresses :(

 

This is a legal issue, m8, MS didn't do this to "upset you" that's for sure. Why wont you ask your parents to let you update your age within the account, in the end they're the bosses not MS.

Guess_With_ReX

[QUOTE="Guess_With_ReX"]

i truely believe that majority of people who use MSN are younger than 18.

I am 17, why in the blue hellam I not allowed to use MSn on the stupid 360?

"Windows Live Messenger is not available from a Windows Live child account"

WTF is this BS, i waited a good 2 months for it to come, now they got rid of it?

wtf BS! :cry:

stupd thing, and you cant' even change it in the settings. Stupid, now I have to wait a year cause when i caled them before, they said i couldn't change my e-mail addresses :(

 

This is a legal issue, m8, MS didn't do this to "upset you" that's for sure. Why wont you ask your parents to let you update your age within the account, in the end they're the bosses not MS.

miiiguel

you cant update your age. 

Man, Kids are dumb.

Look, recently a number of people became victims of social engineering over xbox live, meaning that they were targeted and asked questions in such a manner as to get them to reveal enough of their account information so that the person responsible would be able to take over their xbox live account.  Microsoft I'm sure has made the assumption that the younger the person behind the account, the more susceptible they are to such ploys.  I agree whole heartedly, this is simply a way for microsoft to cover their backs from having another explosion over "xbox live accounts being hacked".  Like any corporation, they'd rather put up with the unified sobbing of a bunch of kids who can't use one service, than the hounding and persecution of media  who think they're entire online system was compromised.

If you expect anything other than the age detection process to change, you're insane, well maybe not insane, you're probably just a dumb kid with alot of growing up to do.  Got a problem with it? Use your PC for instant messaging, either that or use the IM service that's already built into xbox live. 

"OH NOES I R BEEN DESKRIMEN8D AGANST"  No you're not, you're having your account protected.  Much like when you're parents tell you to be in before dark, but no-one starts a petition over that.  Pfft.  Darn kids. 

Man, Kids are dumb.

 

Look, recently a number of people became victims of social engineering over xbox live, meaning that they were targeted and asked questions in such a manner as to get them to reveal enough of their account information so that the person responsible would be able to take over their xbox live account. Microsoft I'm sure has made the assumption that the younger the person behind the account, the more susceptible they are to such ploys. I agree whole heartedly, this is simply a way for microsoft to cover their backs from having another explosion over "xbox live accounts being hacked". Like any corporation, they'd rather put up with the unified sobbing of a bunch of kids who can't use one service, than the hounding and persecution of media who think they're entire online system was compromised.

 

If you expect anything other than the age detection process to change, you're insane, well maybe not insane, you're probably just a dumb kid with alot of growing up to do. Got a problem with it? Use your PC for instant messaging, either that or use the IM service that's already built into xbox live.

"OH NOES I R BEEN DESKRIMEN8D AGANST" No you're not, you're having your account protected. Much like when you're parents tell you to be in before dark, but no-one starts a petition over that. Pfft. Darn kids.

Jeff_Boldt

thats not the problem.

the problem is that if you are over 18 and made the account before you where 18 you still cant use it.