Microsoft wanting both Blu-ray and HD-DVD to fail?

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#1 SizeMatterzz
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The entertainment industry as a whole, ranging from music, movies and videogames, in one full of misunderstood concepts and business politics. Sometimes to ensure success, a corporation would do under the table deals in hopes that the public doesn't learn about the activity, all legal of course.

One company that has been under the speculation of this sort of transaction is Microsoft. From many people's analyses, Microsoft is favoring HD DVD for the sole reason because they want both formats including Blu-ray to fail. By doing this, it would allow them to bring in digital downloads as the newer video media form.

Michael Bay, an outspoken Hollywood individual had this to say:

"What you don't understand is corporate politics. Microsoft wants both formats to fail so they can be heroes and make the world move to digital downloads. That is the dirty secret no one is talking about. That is why Microsoft is handing out USD 100 million dollar checks to studios just embrace the HD DVD and not the leading, and superior Blu Ray. They want confusion in the market until they perfect the digital downloads. Time will tell and you will see the truth."

So could this also be the reason why Microsoft created the HD DVD add-on for the Xbox 360? It's a possibility, but with Blu-ray currently in the lead, we could be seeing a definite winner in Sony's high definition format, thus thwarting Microsoft's plans if they are indeed true.
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#3 linkinworm
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didnt read, read about this a few days ago, but basicaly if they get downloading perfect they will make more money, but then everyone is going to have to buy lik 4TB of storage to store all there movies
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#5 snackdaddy
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HD DVD and Bluray isa format war that needs to die. It does nothing but hurt the consumer. Digital Downloads mostly likely will be the next major format. HD DVD and Bluray are filler.
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#6 BongMonkey
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HD DVD and Bluray isa format war that needs to die. It does nothing but hurt the consumer. Digital Downloads mostly likely will be the next major format. HD DVD and Bluray are filler.snackdaddy

Filler for quite awhile. HD downloads will not be a real possibility for a few years, storage medium would have to take another jump. TB hard drives would have to be very common.

There won't be any clear winner, we'll have both for at least a few years to come.

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[QUOTE="snackdaddy"]HD DVD and Bluray isa format war that needs to die. It does nothing but hurt the consumer. Digital Downloads mostly likely will be the next major format. HD DVD and Bluray are filler.BongMonkey

Filler for quite awhile. HD downloads will not be a real possibility for a few years, storage medium would have to take another jump. TB hard drives would have to be very common.

There won't be any clear winner, we'll have both for at least a few years to come.

A few years perhaps, but still a filler. Look at the time CD's and Tapes and VHSand DVD's held there own.HD DVD and Bluray will represent much less of a respective life span. Don't get me wrong its a necessary evil, but people banking on one format or the other is just short sighted.

And as fast as hard drive technology moves TB drive will be beomce increasingly less expensive. You can get 1TB HD now for 250 bucks. With the integration and advances in Solid State drives mixed with new technologies like HAMR it's simply a matter of time. Broadband getting closer with technologies like ViOS. Like you said a couple of years, I wont argue that, but relative to other formats. They are fillers.

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#8 teebeenz
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Its a good decade before Digital Downloads will be even close to being a place thats good, there simply isnt enough people with fast enugh broadband to cope.
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[QUOTE="BongMonkey"]

[QUOTE="snackdaddy"]HD DVD and Bluray isa format war that needs to die. It does nothing but hurt the consumer. Digital Downloads mostly likely will be the next major format. HD DVD and Bluray are filler.snackdaddy

Filler for quite awhile. HD downloads will not be a real possibility for a few years, storage medium would have to take another jump. TB hard drives would have to be very common.

There won't be any clear winner, we'll have both for at least a few years to come.

A few years perhaps, but still a filler. Look at the time CD's and Tapes and VHSand DVD's held there own.HD DVD and Bluray will represent much less of a respective life span. Don't get me wrong its a necessary evil, but people banking on one format or the other is just short sighted.

And as fast as hard drive technology moves TB drive will be beomce increasingly less expensive. You can get 1TB HD now for 250 bucks. With the integration and advances in Solid State drives mixed with new technologies like HAMR it's simply a matter of time. Broadband getting closer with technologies like ViOS. Like you said a couple of years, I wont argue that, but relative to other formats. They are fillers.

But I don't want my movies on hard drives. What about me? You won't be storing movies like that as a mainstream solution as there are plenty of people that don't have computers, or the knowledge, or care to learn any of that. Video on demand services are going to take over and that can all be controlled from a cable or satelite provider.

I am not the one that is going to have to store the movies, I will just buy them from "Cable Co" and they will be accessible to me.

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#10 snackdaddy
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Like Large Soda said it'll end up being video on demand stuff. All the techologies I mentioned do nothing, but support cable companies, sat, etc... Blu-ray and HD DVD in this example are still a filler.
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[QUOTE="BongMonkey"]

[QUOTE="snackdaddy"]HD DVD and Bluray isa format war that needs to die. It does nothing but hurt the consumer. Digital Downloads mostly likely will be the next major format. HD DVD and Bluray are filler.snackdaddy

Filler for quite awhile. HD downloads will not be a real possibility for a few years, storage medium would have to take another jump. TB hard drives would have to be very common.

There won't be any clear winner, we'll have both for at least a few years to come.

A few years perhaps, but still a filler. Look at the time CD's and Tapes and VHSand DVD's held there own.HD DVD and Bluray will represent much less of a respective life span. Don't get me wrong its a necessary evil, but people banking on one format or the other is just short sighted.

And as fast as hard drive technology moves TB drive will be beomce increasingly less expensive. You can get 1TB HD now for 250 bucks. With the integration and advances in Solid State drives mixed with new technologies like HAMR it's simply a matter of time. Broadband getting closer with technologies like ViOS. Like you said a couple of years, I wont argue that, but relative to other formats. They are fillers.

I think were saying the same thing. Can't agree more. (although 1 TB probably won't cut it, but it shows how things are going.)

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maybe, or maybe they just had too much invested in hd dvd before the blu ray was announced (just speculations) that it had to go through. its a pretty risky move to throw away that much money just to not win.
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[QUOTE="snackdaddy"][QUOTE="BongMonkey"]

[QUOTE="snackdaddy"]HD DVD and Bluray isa format war that needs to die. It does nothing but hurt the consumer. Digital Downloads mostly likely will be the next major format. HD DVD and Bluray are filler.Large_Soda

Filler for quite awhile. HD downloads will not be a real possibility for a few years, storage medium would have to take another jump. TB hard drives would have to be very common.

There won't be any clear winner, we'll have both for at least a few years to come.

A few years perhaps, but still a filler. Look at the time CD's and Tapes and VHSand DVD's held there own.HD DVD and Bluray will represent much less of a respective life span. Don't get me wrong its a necessary evil, but people banking on one format or the other is just short sighted.

And as fast as hard drive technology moves TB drive will be beomce increasingly less expensive. You can get 1TB HD now for 250 bucks. With the integration and advances in Solid State drives mixed with new technologies like HAMR it's simply a matter of time. Broadband getting closer with technologies like ViOS. Like you said a couple of years, I wont argue that, but relative to other formats. They are fillers.

But I don't want my movies on hard drives. What about me? You won't be storing movies like that as a mainstream solution as there are plenty of people that don't have computers, or the knowledge, or care to learn any of that. Video on demand services are going to take over and that can all be controlled from a cable or satelite provider.

I am not the one that is going to have to store the movies, I will just buy them from "Cable Co" and they will be accessible to me.

Ah but no one really specified computers. What about the next gen gaming consoles, they won't have dinky little 20 GB hd's... the way things are going they will have 20 TB. (I remember when a 20 MB hd was "more than you'd ever need".) lol.

Everything's changing the old ways can't compare cause it's now a completely different ball game.

Basically if you don't have a computer you won't need one. Your console, or your pvr etc. etc. Or just a minimal player with large HD and network connection.

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#14 snackdaddy
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I think you're right, just arguing symantics, which is generally a waste of time :P And I agree 1TB isn't enough, but soon 1+ TB drives will be less expensive.
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#15 balindos
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Wow at least I see people know that HD formats are a waste.

I think going the way of digital downloads is going to happen and soonerthan most of us expect. Xbox live is already renting movies and they are doing a good job but for a digital buy it will have to be like Itunes and music and tv shows. In a way you will be stuck with what ever company you choose to buy movies because if your Hard drive fails then you will need to be signed up with them to download it again. I like digital downloads but I would like to also have the freedom to do whatever I want with my purchase. For me Dvds are just fine and the HD format bring nothing to the table but a prettier picture which I could careless about since the story and the writing of the movie is what really makes a good movie. I still watch black and white movies because it is a good movie no matter what the picture looks like. I say flash has a better chance than HDdvd and Bluray. As for Video on demand,Does that mean if I move away from my cable company I lose all my movies too. Now that is weak. I still think to own a movie right now, the best way is to buy the DVD.

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#16 Lanezy
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For me, I just want to see this format war come to an end. It's only hurting us consumers.

Yes, Micheal Bay, you do have a point, but it's no secret that digital distribution is the future. Mr. Bay is a little ticked off because he works for Paramount, and is forced to release his movies on the HD-DVD format only. It's also no secret that Micheal Bay is a terrible director with no artistic integrity at all, but I'm not complaining.

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#17 teebeenz
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You guys dont seem to understand, until the vast majority of the world has net services capablie of handling that level of data, this isnt going to replace disks, and I can tell you the world isnt even NEAR close. 10years or more will need to pass.
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#18 Fredrick2003x
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The format war will end when the console wars end.

Never.