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so everyone knows about the three red lights issue with the 360. thats #1. bad product design that has led to some people having to buy another 360. yeah u could get it replaced but what of the people not living in the us? after doing research, i discovered that it would cost me about the same to buy a new 360 then to send it to good ol' MS. those bastards...

now here's one you will absolutely LOVE. so i'm playing on my SECOND 360 (which i also had to BUY) when those damn red lights start flashing. well im not going to send it to microsoft since the shipping & handling will pretty much rape my wallet. and i cant buy a new one since my walets ass is still sore from the rape it recieved from the first 360 purchase. after weeks of no 360, i went on the net to research do it yourself fixes for my crap box. so i took it apart and did the fix, and turned it on while it was taken apart. strangely it worked..it signed in to xbox live and i started a private chat with a friend but after 5 minutes it froze and the 3 red lights came back so i said **** it and stuffed the whole thing in a box.

fast forward a month later....and guess what? i find out that if you log in to xbox live without a dvd drive pluged in, you get banned from xbox live because they think you are a modder...and i called up the customer support and sure enough i was banned.

but wait...they dont ban your XBOX LIVE account, no no. they ban your 360. they calim its so you can keep playing on a different console.

now wait a mother ****ing second. if ur 360 is banned, there's no fixing it. You're never going online with that system ever again. so whats left? buying another 360. those idiots thought that we would prefer to replace a 300+ dollar system than a 7 dollar/month account. not really sure if its 7 but its still cheaper than a brand new box. and now i HAVE to buy a third 360 for trying to fix my second one because they sold all of us a piece of crap to beggin with. its like a master plan to screw everyone over for our money...

its amazing they can do this and keep a straight face.

***WHY DOES THIS GET MODED!?!?!?

wow that must be annoying.

My 360 (from launch) has never broken on me but if it breaks after the warranty ends I will not be happy.

I always though that there was some sort of company that made sure that faulty hardware never got released. isnt there regulations?

I agree, Microsoft is making a mess of things. Unfortunatly their console has the good exclusives otherwise I would have gotten a PS3 with one of those 360 controllers build for PS3.

But since you 'fixed' your 360 yourself you did break the agreement and they had the right to ban your console. That part is your own fault. And since you claim to have gotten PROD (and not something else) you really screwed yourself since its FREE to fix.

Apart from PROD the 360 really doesnt have any problems more problems then the competition. And whe it comes to costumer service Sony and Nintendo are just as bad as Microsoft. So if they woudl have delivered a good product to begin with then we wouldnt have to hate their costumer service.

You are just not very smart. My friends got RROD, but they paid for everything. They sent him the box with postage, he sent it to them. Everything was taken care of within a couple weeks for free. Why would you take your 360 apart? That was a big no no, especially if you are simply following an online tutorial on how to fix it.

And it good they ban the xbox. Makes it more difficult for people looking to mod/cheat to continue doing so.

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[My 360 broke and I'm angry. sad story]

***WHY DOES THIS GET MODED!?!?!? Lord-Sandler

There is a thread stickied at the top of the forum for all broken 360 discussion.

Only partly ****ing out swear words can get you modded.

Re-posting a modded thread can get you another moderation, suspension or ban.

When you call MS Support when your 360 dies they sort out a label for it to be couriered back to them. All you have to do is package it up and call the courier to arrange a suitable time for collection. So on many parts of this thread you fail.

And it good they ban the xbox. Makes it more difficult for people looking to mod/cheat to continue doing so.

Agreed, if they simply banned the account then modders can continue playing their free 360 games on anotehr account. Only people they would be hurting woudl be modders who care for their gamer score, but if you do that then you dont get into modding.

I do agree they need to try and fix the RROD, but isn't there a 3 Yr. warranty, they send you the box and free shipping.Shas02

Exactly.

You voided your contract they have every right to do what they did. Dunno what to tell you, don't buy anymore?

Why does this keep getting modded? First off you're using offensive language and not completely censoring your words as per the ToU. Secondly you're bashing the 360 on the 360's console specific board and this is viewed as trolling as per the ToU.

In regard to the content of your post, yes MS needs to do more to fix the RROD issue. But I'm glad they ban modders. MS doesn't know what you've modded (the HDD, DVD drive, etc.), and thus to reduce modding and cheating on XBL the console is banned, which I agree with.

Overall, the language needs cleaned up and then repost this on SW where it belongs.

i had my 360 since decemeber of 2007..still no problem but im afraid that it will get rrod sooner or later..its like these xbox's are on a timer and once the timer goes off we get the rrod and get f;ed over lol..its kinda funny..imagine that was true.Aesthetic816

It's true depending on how long you play each day. A casual gamer that puts 30 min - 1 hour into it every day should be able to last a long time, so long that it lasts longer then this generation. But if you put 2 - 5 hours+ in your 360 every day then the heat it generates is going to do a lot of internal damage. Newer 360s have better components that can stand the heat and there are models comming later this year that actually generates less heat and could be PROD proof.

The truth is that they don't send you a brand new xbox 360. That would be the honorable thing to do. They send you a refurbished 360. They don't even fix yours and send it back. They send you someone else's that has been fixed. The 3 year warranty only covers RROD, which is bull. My disc drive doesn't work properly anymore and I had to buy a new 360. I upgraded to the elite in hopes of having fewer problems.JFRocker

Believe it or not, I was one of the lucky ones that received a brand new 360. :)

[QUOTE="JFRocker"]The truth is that they don't send you a brand new xbox 360. That would be the honorable thing to do. They send you a refurbished 360. They don't even fix yours and send it back. They send you someone else's that has been fixed. The 3 year warranty only covers RROD, which is bull. My disc drive doesn't work properly anymore and I had to buy a new 360. I upgraded to the elite in hopes of having fewer problems.Eddie5vs1

Believe it or not, I was one of the lucky ones that received a brand new 360. :)

Yes, they do send out new 360's, and you can check this by looking at the date of manufacture at the back of the 360.

1. You don't have to pay shipping and handling when you get the three red lights issues.

2. How it "microsofts con" to make you open their console? Do you think they want that?

3. Do you REALLY think you're in the right here? It's your own damn fault you opened your console and tampered with it. This is like me opening my car and messing around with the engine, then when it stops working, calling my cars' dealership con artsists

i do agree that microsoft can be pretty cheap and once people send in their first xbox for rrod they should send them back a falcom chip xbox so they never have the problem again. The one thing that suprises me is that the previous generation of videogame consoles seemed to never break. I had a ps2, xbox, and gamecube and each for about 5-6 years ( if its been that long) and iv dropped them HUNDREDS of times and have gone long 12 hour sitting..iv left my ps2 on for 24 horus before watchin movies and games all the time at a friends.

If those consoles can deal that much gaming and abuse. why cant this generation do that???. Isnt it suppose to be better all around. i dunno i think they should be built better. I had to send in my 360 after 6 months and i havent had a single problem with my ps2 for 6 eears..hmmm

TC, that stinks man... sorry to hear that.

And yes, Gayspot does like to Moderate everything! (Trust me, I've been moderated like 5 times now and not once did I do anything wrong... well, maybe once)

man i hate the god damn dvd drives on the thing mine just died and so i had to buy a xbox 360 arcade why don't microsoft cover the dvd drives as well plus who makes those dvd drives

i do agree that microsoft can be pretty cheap and once people send in their first xbox for rrod they should send them back a falcom chip xbox so they never have the problem again. The one thing that suprises me is that the previous generation of videogame consoles seemed to never break. I had a ps2, xbox, and gamecube and each for about 5-6 years ( if its been that long) and iv dropped them HUNDREDS of times and have gone long 12 hour sitting..iv left my ps2 on for 24 horus before watchin movies and games all the time at a friends.

If those consoles can deal that much gaming and abuse. why cant this generation do that???. Isnt it suppose to be better all around. i dunno i think they should be built better. I had to send in my 360 after 6 months and i havent had a single problem with my ps2 for 6 eears..hmmm

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