Modern Warfare 2 on Veteran is too easy.

All of you CoD 4 Vets know where I'm coming from when I say that Modern Warfare 2 on Veteran was made too easy. There were no "stumper" missions (or segments) like in CoD 4, and advancing through the mission was far easier as a whole in MW2. I remember chucking my controler at the ground and crying "impossible!" dozens of times in CoD4, but not once throughout the entire Modern Warfare 2 Veteran campaign.

So let me be the first--and probably only--person to say this; bring back the rooms of infinitly spawning enemies! Yes, they weren't realistic, and yes they could be extremely frustrating, but those rooms full of enemies is what provided the challenge in CoD 4 (and a lot of the times the thrill). In addition, Modern Warfare 2 seems to drift away from previous CoD installments because of the change in design. As much as I love Modern Warfare 2's campaign, it's just not as intense or challengeing as CoD 4 was, and I would like to see a return to form in Modern Warfare 3.

Your thoughts and opinions?

In no way whatsoever do I want the respawns to appear in another CoD game. I'd rather have a game on the hardest difficulty be easier than the earlier games rather than have cheap spawning enemies.

I had a lot more fun with the campaign this time around mainly because there were no infinite respawning enemies, so no I'd rather not have them. Veteran being a bit easier because of that is something I can live with.

the respawning enemies pissed me off in every cod, it was the worst when trying to advance and then all of a suddon there was a fat group of people coming at you and shooting you a million times. WAW had the worst enemy respawn, and the nade spamming was terrible! you couldnt get cover because there would be 5 grenades are your feet.

I had a lot more fun with the campaign this time around mainly because there were no infinite respawning enemies, so no I'd rather not have them. Veteran being a bit easier because of that is something I can live with.

kholdstare61

I am speaking on behalf of my friend who LOVES vet on CoD 4. His idea is that not enough people played vet on CoD 4, then say it was to easy. MW2's

Vet, still frustrating, is a joke compared to CoD 4.

Im glad they stopped the infinite respawning enemies. I play a game to have fun. This game is fun except online so far.

Some people have fun when being challenged, ie, myself

Is it easier? Yes. Is it more enjoyable because of that? Oh Hell Yes! I HATED the respawning enemies in the older games. Now for people that haven't played it on Vet yet, make know mistake, it isn't easy, you will still die...a lot, but it is much more managable, and like the TC said, I haven't had any 'throw my controler moments'

I hated that respawning crap.... hope it says dead with COD 4. As far as difficulty goes I felt that MW2 is harder on vet. The freaking AI are like GODS. They shoot from anywhere and actually hit you. Insane. Almost cheap IMHO

All of you CoD 4 Vets know where I'm coming from when I say that Modern Warfare 2 on Veteran was made too easy. There were no "stumper" missions (or segments) like in CoD 4, and advancing through the mission was far easier as a whole in MW2. I remember chucking my controler at the ground and crying "impossible!" dozens of times in CoD4, but not once throughout the entire Modern Warfare 2 Veteran campaign.

So let me be the first--and probably only--person to say this; bring back the rooms of infinitly spawning enemies! Yes, they weren't realistic, and yes they could be extremely frustrating, but those rooms full of enemies is what provided the challenge in CoD 4 (and a lot of the times the thrill). In addition, Modern Warfare 2 seems to drift away from previous CoD installments because of the change in design. As much as I love Modern Warfare 2's campaign, it's just not as intense or challengeing as CoD 4 was, and I would like to see a return to form in Modern Warfare 3.

Your thoughts and opinions?

Hickamie14

hey, this is perhaps the worst idea i've heard all day. congratulations.

Im glad they stopped the infinite respawning enemies. I play a game to have fun. This game is fun except online so far.

Solarburn24

I remember these three levels being the hardest for me on Veteran on CoD 4: One Shot, One Kill; Heat; and No Fighting in the War Room! I never want to play any levels like these any more!

I more or less agree with the topic poster. The campaign was entirely too easy comparatively speaking. Say what you will about the inane frustration of previous installments on Veteran, but at the end of the day, when you completed that game on Veteran, you felt that sense of accomplishment. That through all the frustration, you stuck in there and bested the game. This sense of accomplishment, was completely absent from Modern Warfare 2 and for me, that really hindered my experience. Veteran difficulty is meant to be mind boggling and insanely frustrating. That's the appeal for those of us that like a challenge. If you don't want to play on that difficulty then dont, but at least give us gamers that enjoy it, a chance to play call of duty games on Veteran, the way they were intended to be.

Could be a little bit harder!

MW2 on Veteran was much easier than MW1 on Veteran, but no it is not 'too easy', unless you're a troll.

Of course, I think IW should implement a 'Nightmare Mode' to satisfy the truly uber l33t gamers, where you have 1 shot deaths and the enemies do not drop ammunition when they die.

I definitely do not want respawning enemies back. Not only in COD4 and WAW did they kill you in 2 shots at worst, but if you stood around for too long grenades are dropped on your position. Sure this made it harder but also amounted to a large amount of frustration. They eased up in MW2 and I'm glad for that I rather have them kill with skill (not really the write word) then pretty much hacks.

I had a lot more fun with the campaign this time around mainly because there were no infinite respawning enemies, so no I'd rather not have them. Veteran being a bit easier because of that is something I can live with.

kholdstare61

I totally agree, along with barely any grenade spamming made this the most enjoyable campaign by far.

The only COD I've beat on Vet is COD2. I beat MW1&2 on Hardened. I didn't enjoy them enough to want to play them again so I didn't try Vet. From what I've heard, COD2 is the hardest to complete on Veteran difficulty. COD2 had the constantly respawning enemies and they loved to throw a ton of grenades at you.x-2tha-z

All of you CoD 4 Vets know where I'm coming from when I say that Modern Warfare 2 on Veteran was made too easy. There were no "stumper" missions (or segments) like in CoD 4, and advancing through the mission was far easier as a whole in MW2. I remember chucking my controler at the ground and crying "impossible!" dozens of times in CoD4, but not once throughout the entire Modern Warfare 2 Veteran campaign.

So let me be the first--and probably only--person to say this; bring back the rooms of infinitly spawning enemies! Yes, they weren't realistic, and yes they could be extremely frustrating, but those rooms full of enemies is what provided the challenge in CoD 4 (and a lot of the times the thrill). In addition, Modern Warfare 2 seems to drift away from previous CoD installments because of the change in design. As much as I love Modern Warfare 2's campaign, it's just not as intense or challengeing as CoD 4 was, and I would like to see a return to form in Modern Warfare 3.

Your thoughts and opinions?

Hickamie14

None of the CoD games were hard.. besides MW2 the entire game you would spend just sprinting and hope they don't nade spam where you are going. There is no skill involved with dodging grenades or blind sprinting at infinite AI it's just luck. That stuff is just added to make the campaigns seem longer then they actually are.

The respawning enemies never really bothered me until they decided to have a times mission. To be honest I actually didn't know they respawned until a bit after CoD4 (Beat CoD2 on vet and missing one lvl on CoD4). I mean if you want to play and have fun then why are you playing on the hardest difficulty? For me a sometimes I want a challenge and in the old games Veteran was just that and for the most part were up to par challenge wise, but timing a mission was as fun as me biting off my own hand.

So i would say go back to CoD2 veteran difficulty. Very hard, but no timed stuff (at least from what I can remember). Mile High Club was fine though because thats all the level was. It didn't take 20 minutes to get to timed section (Or however long it took in the other mission).

I understand why all of you prefer no respawns, and you guys have brought up some good points. However, you haven't convinced against MW3 returning to spawning enemies.

Modern Warfare on Veteran = no fun.

Modern Warfare 2 on Veteran = kind of fun

Both games on Hardened = a lot of fun

I'm all for a challenge but I hate cheap and frustratin things.

It isn't frustration if you learn when to push, and sometimes, letting AI do the work for you is fine.jad206

I want to play the game and progress, not watch the AI play the game for me.

the respawning enemies pissed me off in every cod, it was the worst when trying to advance and then all of a suddon there was a fat group of people coming at you and shooting you a million times. WAW had the worst enemy respawn, and the nade spamming was terrible! you couldnt get cover because there would be 5 grenades are your feet.

famoussasjohn

All of you CoD 4 Vets know where I'm coming from when I say that Modern Warfare 2 on Veteran was made too easy. There were no "stumper" missions (or segments) like in CoD 4, and advancing through the mission was far easier as a whole in MW2. I remember chucking my controler at the ground and crying "impossible!" dozens of times in CoD4, but not once throughout the entire Modern Warfare 2 Veteran campaign.

So let me be the first--and probably only--person to say this; bring back the rooms of infinitly spawning enemies! Yes, they weren't realistic, and yes they could be extremely frustrating, but those rooms full of enemies is what provided the challenge in CoD 4 (and a lot of the times the thrill). In addition, Modern Warfare 2 seems to drift away from previous CoD installments because of the change in design. As much as I love Modern Warfare 2's campaign, it's just not as intense or challengeing as CoD 4 was, and I would like to see a return to form in Modern Warfare 3.

Your thoughts and opinions?

Hickamie14

I more or less agree with the topic poster. The campaign was entirely too easy comparatively speaking. Say what you will about the inane frustration of previous installments on Veteran, but at the end of the day, when you completed that game on Veteran, you felt that sense of accomplishment. That through all the frustration, you stuck in there and bested the game. This sense of accomplishment, was completely absent from Modern Warfare 2 and for me, that really hindered my experience. Veteran difficulty is meant to be mind boggling and insanely frustrating. That's the appeal for those of us that like a challenge. If you don't want to play on that difficulty then dont, but at least give us gamers that enjoy it, a chance to play call of duty games on Veteran, the way they were intended to be.

MsCortana

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I more or less agree with the topic poster. The campaign was entirely too easy comparatively speaking. Say what you will about the inane frustration of previous installments on Veteran, but at the end of the day, when you completed that game on Veteran, you felt that sense of accomplishment. That through all the frustration, you stuck in there and bested the game. This sense of accomplishment, was completely absent from Modern Warfare 2 and for me, that really hindered my experience. Veteran difficulty is meant to be mind boggling and insanely frustrating. That's the appeal for those of us that like a challenge. If you don't want to play on that difficulty then dont, but at least give us gamers that enjoy it, a chance to play call of duty games on Veteran, the way they were intended to be.

VIRGIN_ISLANDER

But seriously though. like i told the poster. If you guys really feel so strongly about the respawns. I think you should have IW make that available to you as DLC, that way we all can be happy...:)

There was one close to impossible mission for the Rangers, it took place on the ground where tangos took over the white house and were firing down on us, we were surrounded by explosion holes in the ground and trees were fallen, that mission was the only one that really got me stuck.

Respawning enemies has always been a negative aspect of the previous COD titles...in fact IW has gotten flack for making you kill the same guy twice, I'm glad we finally have a normal more "realistic" in terms of difficulty and gameplay approach to the campaign, previous games were mind nummingly frustrating to complete on Veteran and to the guy who said all COD games are easy...wow are you serious are trying to get reaction out of people ? lol.