i just got on to live and started looking at the game demos and WOW! each demo takes up about 1gb of memory. and since DVD'S have 8gb max storage, then isn't it time to switch to a new, bigger storage like (COUGH) HD DVD? cos no way are games going to get any bigger.
You are right they shouldv've switched.. However I am pretty sure that a DVD single layer is only 6 gigs. So Blu-Ray would be evn better since it is 15 gigs.
What you fail to realize is that the demos have all the objects and textures of the real game. That's what takes up the most memory. Oblivion fit on a DVD perfectly with around 3 gb to spare. If they used HD DVD's, then the 360 would have to have the drive built in and it would cost around $600...
You are right they shouldv've switched.. However I am pretty sure that a DVD single layer is only 6 gigs. So Blu-Ray would be evn better since it is 15 gigs.gatsbythepig
No. DVD's have 4.7 single and 8.5 dual. Blu-Ray has 25 and 50gb...
i just got on to live and started looking at the game demos and WOW! each demo takes up about 1gb of memory. and since DVD'S have 8gb max storage, then isn't it time to switch to a new, bigger storage like (COUGH) HD DVD? cos no way are games going to get any bigger.0161
There's one huge problem in doing that...the 10 million 360's out there wouldn't be able to play an HD-DVD game so there's no way M$ is going to do this...they'd be shooting themselves in the foot.
i just got on to live and started looking at the game demos and WOW! each demo takes up about 1gb of memory. and since DVD'S have 8gb max storage, then isn't it time to switch to a new, bigger storage like (COUGH) HD DVD? cos no way are games going to get any bigger.0161
you obviously havent read the article about space increasage from last gen and this gen
Second, dont you see that you will be downloading games soon. Look at how internet speeds are jumping. For example look at the Verizon FIOS, download speed 15mb and upload 2mb and that is for 40 bucks a month. Cable is at 8mb and DSL is at 3mb and moving to 6mb. Say goodbye to dvds, HDDVD, and bluray. I bet they will let you put all your games on the hard disk just hmmmm a PC.
i heard in an article that dvd's are perfect for making 360 games. see since they only have 6-8GB to work with developers have to work on them 10x harder and make sure everything fits and everything is perfect, so there is literally no room for error. sony has blu-ray which has 15GB?? space, so the ps3 developers can screw up so easily by even being a little bit careless. but if 360 goes HDDVD, i'll be happy with it.
i heard in an article that dvd's are perfect for making 360 games. see since they only have 6-8GB to work with developers have to work on them 10x harder and make sure everything fits and everything is perfect, so there is literally no room for error. sony has blu-ray which has 15GB?? space, so the ps3 developers can screw up so easily by even being a little bit careless. but if 360 goes HDDVD, i'll be happy with it.Screamin_EaGLes
So if Xbox goes Hd-DVD but sony sticks with blu-ray you are happy that ms games will get worse. What???
i just got on to live and started looking at the game demos and WOW! each demo takes up about 1gb of memory. and since DVD'S have 8gb max storage, then isn't it time to switch to a new, bigger storage like (COUGH) HD DVD? cos no way are games going to get any bigger.0161
There is no reason to do it, the games really don't demand it yet despite what Sony likes to tell everyone.
UH? Some of you guys got the numbers wrong, the 360 DVDs their using is 9GB, yes they should have gone HD, but even blu-ray doesn't use 50GB or atleast 25GB (They using special blu-ray disks holding half) unless they make a disk using 15GB really there is no need to use bigger discs yet so were kinda stuck untill the next generation. But we can live with this, Gears of War could use the HD DVD though. But like someone said earlier, compression is the key for now. Also I wonder how much a record player sized disc could store?
Yea i remember reading something a little while ago, a developer for a PS3 game said that Blu-ray disc doesnt do much to help games look better or run better, they said "Its just more space"
[QUOTE="Screamin_EaGLes"]i heard in an article that dvd's are perfect for making 360 games. see since they only have 6-8GB to work with developers have to work on them 10x harder and make sure everything fits and everything is perfect, so there is literally no room for error. sony has blu-ray which has 15GB?? space, so the ps3 developers can screw up so easily by even being a little bit careless. but if 360 goes HDDVD, i'll be happy with it.ravine1
So if Xbox goes Hd-DVD but sony sticks with blu-ray you are happy that ms games will get worse. What???
How, exactly, would the games get worse? We're only talking about storage space here. The only thing BR discs have provided Sony's developers with is the ability to be lazy in regards to compression. Get a clue.
[QUOTE="Screamin_EaGLes"]i heard in an article that dvd's are perfect for making 360 games. see since they only have 6-8GB to work with developers have to work on them 10x harder and make sure everything fits and everything is perfect, so there is literally no room for error. sony has blu-ray which has 15GB?? space, so the ps3 developers can screw up so easily by even being a little bit careless. but if 360 goes HDDVD, i'll be happy with it.ravine1
So if Xbox goes Hd-DVD but sony sticks with blu-ray you are happy that ms games will get worse. What???
lol crap, i was typing too fast and thinking at the same time. what i meant was that if 360 goes hd-dvd i'll be happy with it as long as the games dont turn out like crap.
i just got on to live and started looking at the game demos and WOW! each demo takes up about 1gb of memory. and since DVD'S have 8gb max storage, then isn't it time to switch to a new, bigger storage like (COUGH) HD DVD? cos no way are games going to get any bigger.0161
Compression, compression, compression... Compression is the key and MS is damn good at it. You won't need a next-gen format until after this generation of consoles.
A single layer dvd has 4.7 gigs of space, a dual layer has 8.5 gigs. I hate to break it to you sony Fanboys, but this generation of gaming has no need for any more space. alll those blu-ray discs that can hold like 51 GB's are only using like 6. must be a shame...... I am not saying it would have been a bad idea tho, as i would have loved built in HD DVD player for my HD DVD's, and games on HD DVD would be cool. But in all honesty its just not needed this gen. Wait till the next xbox or ps4 etc. then it will be neccesary!
Someone already mentioned that price would be a factor if an HD DVD drive was installed. This would cause the price of the 360 to skyrocket, or at the very least go up reasonably. But what nobody has mentioned is that the next gen format is not proven. Why increase costs with hardware that most people will never need or use While bluray has the slight edge over HD DVD as of now, that could very well change. Perhaps in a few years when a single format or a drive that reads both formats becomes commonplace, then a next gen drive would be necessary. Space so far is not an issue so putting in an HD DVD drive would be worthless. Perhaps in the next generation of consoles either bluray or HD DVD, or both will be commonplace on all consoles.
This format war could be fought round and round for quite a while, but what I a pretty mad about is the new d*** elite version of the X360. It really pisses me off that now I have an old machine when I just bought it less than a year ago. I love crackdown, dead rising, saints row, oblivion, and Gears of War but I would have gladly waited if I would have known that M$ was going to screw its past customers over. Now if they gave us the option to return our old X360's and just pay the difference in price I would be willing to do that. I guess I shouldn't be suprised by M$ actions since they have been screwing people over since they began (Apple).
They didn't really screw you over. Your older 360 is not inferior or less powerful the "Elite", except in storage space and HDMI capability. M$ is still using the same 90nm triple-core processors. Sell your old 360 on eBay if you want the Elite. I'm just going to buy a PS3 with HDMI and Blu-Ray since Blu-Ray is going to win the format war anyways.
No because that means people have to buy HD DVD drives and also have to buy some HD DVD Burners. If you dont like it go buy a PS3 im sure they have enough storage for a game. Good luck finding a Blu Ray Burner.
If the consoles need anything it's more RAM. What good is a 50 gig disc if you can only load half a gig at a time. That is why you won't see the PC version of BF2 reach the consoles because the maps are too big. 64 player maps.
No because that means people have to buy HD DVD drives and also have to buy some HD DVD Burners. If you dont like it go buy a PS3 im sure they have enough storage for a game. Good luck finding a Blu Ray Burner.Wezker619
Sorry, maybe I am missing something here, but what does burners have to do with anything. By the way, it is very easy to find a Blu-ray burner, but they are expensive. I haven't looked into HD-DVD burners but I imagine that they wouldn't be too hard to find either.
Blu-ray was really the way to go. The disks don't get scratches on them. You have to intentionally try to ruin them to scratch em up. I'm not sure if the disk space is really a factor yet. Maybe in 4 years but who knows they prob will have new next-gen systems by then. Data can be compressed so alot can be fit onto a dvd.
We will have to wait until the next Xbox for a different media format, they backed up DVDs and it was a smart move. The 360 would be 500 bucks maybe more if they were to support HDDVD disc. DVDs are fine for a single game, If a game needs more space just put it onto another disc. Blue Dragon is 3 Disc long and its no big deal to play a game for 30 hours and when your finished with that disc to put another one into the console.
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