N64 games on xbox live arcade?

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#1 itsatrap23
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So at E3 they announced that banjo kazooie would be coming out on xboxla. my question is do you think theyll release any other n64 gems as well?? that would be sick to get all the classics back. with improved resolutions!!
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#2 EvilAshTwin
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Well the reason BK is going to the XBLA is because Rare is M$'s plaything, and there is a new BK game coming out for the 360. Since Rare belongs to M$ now, dont be surprised to find Goldeneye in the marketplace after too long.
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#3 IIJuggaNottII
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They all need to have HD graphics. Or else I really dont enjoy them. I purchased streetfighter off XBLA and although I love the game, it looks like crap on my TV. I downloaded alien hominid and the color looks alot better. I cant play any game unless its HD my tv is too big for them to look good. So I dont care if ANY come to the XBLA.
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#4 terdoo
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It would be insanely awesome if Nintendo would let Microsoft release Goldeneye and perfect dark on XBLA.
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#5 Danold
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Well the reason BK is going to the XBLA is because Rare is M$'s plaything, and there is a new BK game coming out for the 360. Since Rare belongs to M$ now, dont be surprised to find Goldeneye in the marketplace after too long.EvilAshTwin

That wont happen, there was all kinds of drama about this last year when some photos were leaked and microsoft cut the project right as it finished (thanks to nintendo, fueling system wars like never before). We may see the old perfect dark and id like that but its just not the same...

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#6 violent_spinal
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Except GoldenEye wont be on XBLA, because Nintendo doesn't want to share.

I'd cream if they released the original Conker. Then, they'd let the multiplayer go over LIVE.
Oh, jeeze. DO IT.DO IT.DO IT.

I used to put so much time into that MP back in the day.
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#7 TacoJelly
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The problem XBLA has is that unlike Nintendo and Sony, they can't just push a ROM out the door and call it a day, they have to rebuild it from the ground up. This is of course because Emulating an N64 on 360 would be illegal.

So theoretically, they could release any game that doesn't have a Nintendo name on it with no problem (barring other legal issues like obtaining 007 licence for Goldeneye or the WWE licence for No Mercy). What is a problem is seeing if the potential of the market is worth the cost risk.

With Banjo it's easy, big cult following plus potential new comers getting excited about the new release, it's making money and marketing at the same time.

SO! if there is ever another situation like this to come up, I bet Microsoft wouldn't hesitate in remaking an N64 game for Live Arcade (Killer Instinct?)

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#8 EvilAshTwin
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Except GoldenEye wont be on XBLA, because Nintendo doesn't want to share.

I'd cream if they released the original Conker. Then, they'd let the multiplayer go over LIVE.
Oh, jeeze. DO IT.DO IT.DO IT.

I used to put so much time into that MP back in the day.violent_spinal

Actually Conker was re-released on the original Xbox with XBL compatability.

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#10 simonromano2007
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actually i remember hearing that conker and goldeneye were going to be realesed (remember hearing it about weeks back) still i heard it though im pretty sure it was just a umor probably wont happen but i hope it does.
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#11 violent_spinal
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Actually Conker was re-released on the original Xbox with XBL compatability.EvilAshTwin

It wasn't the same online I loved.
They totally fudged it up. =(

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#12 craigalan23
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[QUOTE="EvilAshTwin"]Actually Conker was re-released on the original Xbox with XBL compatability.violent_spinal


It wasn't the same online I loved.
They totally fudged it up. =(

I agree they took out all of the funny game modes.

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It would be insanely awesome if Nintendo would let Microsoft release Goldeneye and perfect dark on XBLA.terdoo

Nintendo wouldn't have to. Microsoft owns Rare. Those are Microsoft's games now. They already made goldeneye with updates graphics but didn't release it.

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#14 Danold
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[QUOTE="terdoo"]It would be insanely awesome if Nintendo would let Microsoft release Goldeneye and perfect dark on XBLA.dukebd699

Nintendo wouldn't have to. Microsoft owns Rare. Those are Microsoft's games now. They already made goldeneye with updates graphics but didn't release it.

The reason why they didnt release it was because of nintendo, thats why nintendo would need to allow microsoft to release goldeneye. The problem is ms doesnt want to share any of the profits and nintendo doesnt want to lose their golden boy of a shooter, so until each side can settle its squables, we will be without many great original titles...

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#15 Khimarhi
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I have heard the banjo kazooie news, Also I have heard some goldeneye rumors. I will get both if they come out
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I want to see jet force gemini, I loved that game
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They all need to have HD graphics. Or else I really dont enjoy them. I purchased streetfighter off XBLA and although I love the game, it looks like crap on my TV. I downloaded alien hominid and the color looks alot better. I cant play any game unless its HD my tv is too big for them to look good. So I dont care if ANY come to the XBLA.IIJuggaNottII

Wow, I pity you.

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Any 3rd party, and or second party owned ip can be brought to live if those parties so desire. We have already seen this with games like castlevania symphony of the night, sonic, vigilante 8, and others. To clear up what confusion there seems to be about rare and the thinking that everything they made for the 64 has to be green lit by Nintendo:

IP's rare owns such as banjo and perfect dark now belong to ms. Things like donkey kong country, programed by rare using Nintendo ip will not be on live.

Goldeneye 64 is a unique situation because it is less straight forward when it comes to ips. As far as is understood, Nintendo would be involved in the ip path as they were the company to secure the bond license for the 64 game, and then commissioned rare to make the game. Not to mention the bond license with regard to games is now in the hands of activision I believe. There are conflicting stories as to how all the ips intertwine. The bottom line is, its not as straight forward as dealing with a wholly owned first or 3rd party ip.

I hope this helps clear some of the confusion up.

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#19 luvmesomchicken
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They were going to release 007 goldeneye for XBLA but it was cancelled B/C nintendo and rare couldnt cooperate.:evil:
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#20 Danold
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Any 3rd party, and or second party owned ip can be brought to live if those parties so desire. We have already seen this with games like castlevania symphony of the night, sonic, vigilante 8, and others. To clear up what confusion there seems to be about rare and the thinking that everything they made for the 64 has to be green lit by Nintendo:

IP's rare owns such as banjo and perfect dark now belong to ms. Things like donkey kong country, programed by rare using Nintendo ip will not be on live.

Goldeneye 64 is a unique situation because it is less straight forward when it comes to ips. As far as is understood, Nintendo would be involved in the ip path as they were the company to secure the bond license for the 64 game, and then commissioned rare to make the game. Not to mention the bond license with regard to games is now in the hands of activision I believe. There are conflicting stories as to how all the ips intertwine. The bottom line is, its not as straight forward as dealing with a wholly owned first or 3rd party ip.

I hope this helps clear some of the confusion up.

dunthisb4

I see what you mean, that makes more sense for how some games will make it and some wont. I always assumed that nintendo had to be consulted for every game that rare puts on xbla, i thought maybe ms paid them enough to let this one get through but that makes better sense. Thanks for clearing things up, I should hae done my research before I stated anything, all I had were assumptions.

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#21 GrandLion
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Little to no other games will make it to XLA, because Rare is owned by Microsoft and Banjo was not a character that nintedo purchased.
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#22 dunthisb4
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Happy to help.
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#23 GameMasterCraig
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Hope they add other companies games as well, other than just games from RARE, GEX would be pretty cool.
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#24 mariokart64fan
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no theres other reasons they cant release goldeneye not just nintendo , activision and mgm all play part in this ,

activision owns the rights to all future releases including goldeneye remakes,

mgm owns the license period , , and nintendo publish the game for n64, rare just developed it , but when they sold the rights to ea they sold the rights, then ea sold them to activision hince goldeneye rogue agent,

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#25 violent_spinal
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no theres other reasons they cant release goldeneye not just nintendo , activision and mgm all play part in this ,mariokart64fan

I could have sworn I read a few months ago, that GoldenEye was ready.
Everyone was in agreement, except for Nintendo. I remember the details within said that Nintendo wanted GoldenEye all to itself on the VC. Everyone just wanted it on XBLA, they didn't care if it was on VC as well.

I had the understanding that it was Nintendo alone that didn't want to let this thing happen.
Greed.