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#1 zeldredz
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I really was expecting this game to top the single player of halo 1 and the multiplayer of halo 2 by bringing someething crazy and new into the mix. The trailer said nothing about single player so i wont mention it but the multiplayer looked so much like halo 2. the graphics im sure will be improved from that video upon release but the gameplay looked likre the same old thing. even the strange way halo 2 characters moved has been carried into this one
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#2 TheSystemLord1
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You have no idea when that footage was being played though.  That's the thing, you think they have been in Alpha stage this long?  Nope, they tease you with that.  Besides, if it isn't broken, don't try to fix it.
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#3 ajefferism
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could you give us a link to this video please?
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#4 ajefferism
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So far I havent been too impressed with the gameplay footage of Halo 3.   Not terribly detailed.  But I also understand that all imagery so far has been from the alpha so I'm sure it will look much better.   Also, the E3 trailer, which is supposed to be a representative of the engine for the final game, looked impressive.  I'm excited about the open beta coming in May.  
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#5 zeldredz
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http://au.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3/media.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs&tag=tabs;videos

its the one at the top that sais new

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#6 Tjr41991
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The reason that no single player footage was shown is because its a MULTIPLATYER VID DOC!!! It even says so on xbl download and bungie.net. So if your complaining that there is nothing about single player its like complaing about no snow in the caribbean. Of-course there's no SP footage. Also i know you said you think the graphics aren't good but on the bottom left of the screen it says 4.11.05. HMMMM what could that mean??? Once they release the beta there will be up to to date graphics that will prove everyone that says the graphics are bad wrong. 

 

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http://au.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3/media.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs&tag=tabs;videos

its the one at the top that sais new

zeldredz
So here is the link.  What is the weird way that the characters move?  I never thought they moved in a strange way.  Would you mind expanding on that?
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#8 Maui00
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Adding what tjr said, Bungie always keeps the single player a secret. They only reveal what the game is about and that's it, no characters, no in-depth plot, no enemies ect.. Quite a good strategy to build the hype. And you have to keep in mind that the video showed alpha stage. The graphics are still incomplete and there is a lot they can add in the beta.
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#9 ColdScorpion
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I agree. The Halo 3 actual gameplay looks far from the movie trailer that came out earlier. It doesn't even look significantly better than Halo 2.

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#10 gamez-elite
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Am I the only one who thinks the graphics are pretty damn shiny? (W00t, Firefly reference!)

I honestly love how the game is looking. I can't wait!

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#11 deron2
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I agree. The Halo 3 actual gameplay looks far from the movie trailer that came out earlier. It doesn't even look significantly better than Halo 2.

ColdScorpion

This is getting real boring now...

The graphics on the alpha videos are much better looking than halo 2,theres going to be new maps,bigger maps ,more weapons,

What are people expecting from this game??? its a flipping SHOOTER!!!!!

Alright then let me start again... What are people expecting out of this game ?please give me answeres because what i have seen so far i think is great and looks fun as hell...

 

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#12 ColdScorpion
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[QUOTE="ColdScorpion"]

I agree. The Halo 3 actual gameplay looks far from the movie trailer that came out earlier. It doesn't even look significantly better than Halo 2.

deron2

The graphics on the alpha videos are much better looking than halo 2,theres going to be new maps,bigger maps ,more weapons,

Sounds to me like Halo v2.6

Wow! So Halo 3 has death animations, BIG DEAL! It doesn't look that much different than the last, yea its noticeable but bearly. The graphics need to be alot better to live up to it's hype.

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#13 gamez-elite
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[QUOTE="deron2"][QUOTE="ColdScorpion"]

I agree. The Halo 3 actual gameplay looks far from the movie trailer that came out earlier. It doesn't even look significantly better than Halo 2.

ColdScorpion

The graphics on the alpha videos are much better looking than halo 2,theres going to be new maps,bigger maps ,more weapons,

Sounds to me like Halo v2.6

Wow! So Halo 3 has death animations, BIG DEAL! It doesn't look that much different than the last, yea its noticeable but bearly. The graphics need to be alot better to live up to it's hype.

As long as the gameplay is as good as it looks and the graphics are enough to keep with the standards of other games then it can't go wrong.
As a matter of interest, what could Bungie do to make it look any better? Graphically, what problem do you have with it?

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#14 V_Zarnold_N
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[QUOTE="ColdScorpion"]

I agree. The Halo 3 actual gameplay looks far from the movie trailer that came out earlier. It doesn't even look significantly better than Halo 2.

deron2

This is getting real boring now...

The graphics on the alpha videos are much better looking than halo 2,theres going to be new maps,bigger maps ,more weapons,

What are people expecting from this game??? its a flipping SHOOTER!!!!!

Alright then let me start again... What are people expecting out of this game ?please give me answeres because what i have seen so far i think is great and looks fun as hell...

 

im with you.... wtf else is there to change and wtf else is there to say? its Halo its not gonna be super different its not unreal tournament and now its unreal tournament 3.... its halo it looked good then and it will look good now but the gameplay isnt gonna change though i do hope they add bots cause sometimes i dont have people to play with *i only have live at one house*

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#15 lpillon3
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Wow...since when do we base playing games purely on "how it looks"? If the game is fun and entertaining then that's what should matter. There's nothing wrong with how the graphics are and if you have read what everyone else has said, the game is still in the (let me bump this up so you can read it) ALPHA STAGES, A-L-P-H-A...S-T-A-G-E-S,  there I spelled it for ya too, quit knocking on the game purely cause of the graphics. Still have half a year before the game is released anyway.

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#16 pjam07
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Guys serously this halo topics are getting ridiculous.  TWO YEAR OLD ALPHA STAGE GRAPHICS.  They graphics are all old h2 place holders.  The point of the video was just to give you a taste of the kind of environment and levels that halo 3 would be putting you in and to show off some of the new features.  Dont worry/BASH how the game mechanics/graphics look until we see a product ready video.  Its the last halo in the story arc and bungie will do it RIGHT.  Have a little faith in a company that has brought us not only microsofts biggest franchise but one of the greatest ones today
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#17 Soul_to_Squeeze
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man, i actually think the graphics arent that bad in the video. i think it looks pretty good, but maybe its just me. one thing i saw in the video though that im not sure if i will like, is that thing that makes u jump higher or somethin. it shows one player jumping up to a person shooting the turret and its pretty high off the ground.
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#18 Smoov_B
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I thought it looked great. No complaints from me... Except the water needs to splash when you fall in it. Little details like that go a long way.
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#19 adriancostin83
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this is for everyone that says that halo 3 and halo 2 are the same

it's video camparison:

http://moses.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=56401

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#21 wreak
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Am I the only one who thinks the graphics are pretty damn shiny? (W00t, Firefly reference!)

I honestly love how the game is looking. I can't wait!

gamez-elite

no yer not the only one, i think the game looks great as is, espeshally because they show you some halo 2 footage in that vid-doc and after seeing some nice and crispy halo 3 stuff you think "wow halo 2 looks like garbage!". 

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#22 Sully28
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I understand its alpha so i wont diss the graphics. But like others have said it looks like the same old thing. The gameplay looks the same as halo 2. They should add somthing new to the game, just adding better graphics wont make it a better game. 
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#23 DTbikerider9
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there are some new weapons, man cannon, new vehicles, maybe new objectuve matches, bubble sheild, trip mines its enough for me
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#24 ColdScorpion
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Wow...since when do we base playing games purely on "how it looks"? If the game is fun and entertaining then that's what should matter. There's nothing wrong with how the graphics are and if you have read what everyone else has said, the game is still in the (let me bump this up so you can read it) ALPHA STAGES, A-L-P-H-A...S-T-A-G-E-S,  there I spelled it for ya too, quit knocking on the game purely cause of the graphics. Still have half a year before the game is released anyway.

lpillon3

 This is NEXT-GEN. Looks are an important factor no matter how you size it up. When it comes to a game like this Graphics are ONE of the determining factors.  

The textures are something that needs to be worked on. Especially the outdoor textures. They've done a decent job with indoors but when it comes to outdoors the ground looks terrible. Grass still has that spray-painted look, but then you'll say "Well who really pays attention to the ground anyway?".  If that's the case they why have waves in the water? Its not like you'll actually spend alot of time in it. Another thing, weapons and grenades should affect the enviroment more. What I mean is that if I throw a frag grenade and it has the power to instantly kill you and anyone else close to it, then it should do way more damage to the area it's placed than just a mild burn mark.

 I never said the game was finished nor did I say it looked bad. But I do think it should look alot better than what it does. Just my opinion.

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#25 Keric_basic
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Yes, we all know its alpha.  That doesn't mean it has to look as craptastic as it does.  We've all seen videos/screenshots of games in their alpha form that have looked good.  This video makes me puke.

Halo 2.5 ftl

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#26 MrKittle
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I was on system wars in my other account and people were going crazy! Saying that Halo 3 will be AA and its going to be really bad, blah blah...Then I called the TC a retard and got suspended.
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#27 alkaline_DnB
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the graphics should look better by the time of release...as good as the commercial or gears?  who knows, bungie's got a tight wrap around that.  every gamer expects better graphics with each new console that comes out, and i'm sure bungie knows that and plans to deliver.

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#28 bonejester
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if you have been paying attention to what bungie has been saying, they aren't looking to snare the guy who just wants glorious graphics and creamy visuals. the dude who goes "lolz teh graphics r teh sux0rz" is NOT whom they care about. h2 has been played on-line something like a billion times because of great gameplay. bungie is trying to cater to THAT core audience. the ones who want great gameplay, which, IMO, always trumps great graphics. personally, i don't care if it looks like the original halo. if it has new maps, new weapons, and tweaked gameplay, it will still be great.
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#29 xbox360_4_lyf
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I really was expecting this game to top the single player of halo 1 and the multiplayer of halo 2 by bringing someething crazy and new into the mix. The trailer said nothing about single player so i wont mention it but the multiplayer looked so much like halo 2. the graphics im sure will be improved from that video upon release but the gameplay looked likre the same old thing. even the strange way halo 2 characters moved has been carried into this onezeldredz
looks awsome
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#30 Smoov_B
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Beta guys. This is most likely beta, not alpha. I'm sure they're still keeping things under wraps but I wouldn't expect massive improvements over this. Certainly it could look better, but it's not bad by any means. And as far as weird movement... How your character moves visually is going to affect your gameplay. Halo is all about fast paced, run and gun. Making movement more visually realistic is going to mean slowing down the gameplay, and I think most people will agree that a huge portion of why they enjoy Halo is because of how it handles.
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#32 Hashbrowns
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I'm confused by what people mean when they say "the gameplay hasn't changed."  Well, yeah, you're still running, jumping and driving around shooting people.  That's what first person shooters do.  Exactly what are we wanting changed? 

 I really don't see the Master Chief hiding behind concrete boxes and playing assault rifle Whac-A-Mole with the Covenant, all due respect to Gears of War.  I enjoy leaping down over a ledge and raining bullets down on the enemy as I fall, or being able to vault over the head of a Hunter and smacking the Jackal hiding behind it.  Cliff Blezinski said, in relation to designing Gears of War, that "there is no jumping in [real] combat."  Pretty much true, but real combat isn't what I would call fun.  Halo should play like Halo.  If you have never liked how Halo has felt, then why be interested in the first place?  I despise most turn-based RPGs, so I don't complain when their sequels continue the tradition.  I just let them be.

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#33 0dazubeN
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I understand its alpha so i wont diss the graphics. But like others have said it looks like the same old thing. The gameplay looks the same as halo 2. They should add somthing new to the game, just adding better graphics wont make it a better game.  Sully28

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#34 V4LENT1NE
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I was not impressed by the video at all to be honest, the gameplay looks nothing new at all and looks really really rough, if that game is to come out this year they need to get a move on. Even in alpha stages games arent supposed to look like that.
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#35 isaacw985
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This video is just a teaser showing you only some of the things that will be added in halo 3. ONe of the guys said "we know everybody has high expectations for this game, but we want to beat those expectations." They know what they are doing. They wont dissapoint you with halo 2 with better graphics and a new story. DON"T WORRY!
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I really was expecting this game to top the single player of halo 1 and the multiplayer of halo 2 by bringing someething crazy and new into the mix. The trailer said nothing about single player so i wont mention it but the multiplayer looked so much like halo 2. the graphics im sure will be improved from that video upon release but the gameplay looked likre the same old thing. even the strange way halo 2 characters moved has been carried into this onezeldredz
OMG stop complaing about how the gameplay looks. Its the ALPHA STAGE!!!!!!!!!!! how many times must we say it!!!!They are using places holders. The gameplay is going to look alot of the same as it did in halo 2, How could they really change it?? If it aint broke dont fix it. Just dont buy it if it doesnt look good to you.
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#37 natebayne
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I dont know what the haters are looking at but it looks fantastic to me.... do us a favor and dont buy it... more for the rest of us.
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#38 SicsStringFreak
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[QUOTE="deron2"][QUOTE="ColdScorpion"]

I agree. The Halo 3 actual gameplay looks far from the movie trailer that came out earlier. It doesn't even look significantly better than Halo 2.

V_Zarnold_N

This is getting real boring now...

The graphics on the alpha videos are much better looking than halo 2,theres going to be new maps,bigger maps ,more weapons,

What are people expecting from this game??? its a flipping SHOOTER!!!!!

Alright then let me start again... What are people expecting out of this game ?please give me answeres because what i have seen so far i think is great and looks fun as hell...

 

im with you.... wtf else is there to change and wtf else is there to say? its Halo its not gonna be super different its not unreal tournament and now its unreal tournament 3.... its halo it looked good then and it will look good now but the gameplay isnt gonna change though i do hope they add bots cause sometimes i dont have people to play with *i only have live at one house*

lol, i love your sig, and its true, calling people a noob is what most of these clowns do when they get angry, its the new "you suck!"

 

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#39 OfficialBed
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The reason that no single player footage was shown is because its a MULTIPLATYER VID DOC!!! It even says so on xbl download and bungie.net. So if your complaining that there is nothing about single player its like complaing about no snow in the caribbean. Of-course there's no SP footage. Also i know you said you think the graphics aren't good but on the bottom left of the screen it says 4.11.05. HMMMM what could that mean??? Once they release the beta there will be up to to date graphics that will prove everyone that says the graphics are bad wrong. 

 

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#40 xTheExploited
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I thought that video was brilliant.  I love the slow-motion bit.  I honestly don't care how Halo 3 looks as long as the gameplay is fun.
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#41 wreak
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I was not impressed by the video at all to be honest, the gameplay looks nothing new at all and looks really really rough, if that game is to come out this year they need to get a move on. Even in alpha stages games arent supposed to look like that.V4LENT1NE

well aside from the fact that game development changes w/ every generation. everyone thinks better graphics is caused by higher polycounts, wrong! polycounts are pretty much not even relivant anymore. ya sure those MC models are probably pretty high poly, but it's all about shader effects on top of shader effects now. you don't see raw geometry anymore, so yes that is acceptable as far as an alpha build goes because they just don't have all of the overlays and lighting models finished yet. and as for the way players move, for one your probably all use to it from halo 2 so don't complain, and 2, when making a sequile you have the added advantage of having old assets laying around. this means that the programmers and engineers can get everything working using old assets and new and improved code, while the animators and other artists can take there sweet ass time in making new and improved assets that just replace the "PLACEHOLDER" assets such as the death animations you saw in the vid doc. for school projects you know what we used for place holder character models.....CUBES OK, just straight up cubes. our class had an alpha build that was basicly cubes shooting at bad guys.

so realy don't complain, you all act as if Bungie owes you there life, blood sweat and tears and in all honesty, they don't owe you anything! they are making this game because they love to make great games, and if you don't like what you see so far, to bad suck it up and save the judgement for when the game comes out. 

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#42 blackacidevil96
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Beta guys. This is most likely beta, not alpha. I'm sure they're still keeping things under wraps but I wouldn't expect massive improvements over this. Certainly it could look better, but it's not bad by any means. And as far as weird movement... How your character moves visually is going to affect your gameplay. Halo is all about fast paced, run and gun. Making movement more visually realistic is going to mean slowing down the gameplay, and I think most people will agree that a huge portion of why they enjoy Halo is because of how it handles.Smoov_B

"NOTE: All of the game footage in this doc was taken during the Alpha stage and isn't even representative of what you'll see in the Public Beta, let alone the final game. You will see frame rate skips, unfinished animation and graphical features that will change come Fall. All the footage is clearly marked Alpha. You're looking at the features here folks, not the final quality bar - which we've set pretty high. Your next taste of that will be in May."-bungie.net  http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=MPBetaAndVidocRelease

LOOK^^^^^^^^^SEE RIGHT THERE now everyont stfu its alpha. stright from bungie. now back to it. this game looks so amazing. i still play H2 almost everyday. i wouldnt care if this was halo CE graphics as long as i get to finish the fight. and pwn some noobs on live

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#43 V4LENT1NE
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[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]I was not impressed by the video at all to be honest, the gameplay looks nothing new at all and looks really really rough, if that game is to come out this year they need to get a move on. Even in alpha stages games arent supposed to look like that.wreak

well aside from the fact that game development changes w/ every generation. everyone thinks better graphics is caused by higher polycounts, wrong! polycounts are pretty much not even relivant anymore. ya sure those MC models are probably pretty high poly, but it's all about shader effects on top of shader effects now. you don't see raw geometry anymore, so yes that is acceptable as far as an alpha build goes because they just don't have all of the overlays and lighting models finished yet. and as for the way players move, for one your probably all use to it from halo 2 so don't complain, and 2, when making a sequile you have the added advantage of having old assets laying around. this means that the programmers and engineers can get everything working using old assets and new and improved code, while the animators and other artists can take there sweet ass time in making new and improved assets that just replace the "PLACEHOLDER" assets such as the death animations you saw in the vid doc. for school projects you know what we used for place holder character models.....CUBES OK, just straight up cubes. our class had an alpha build that was basicly cubes shooting at bad guys.

so realy don't complain, you all act as if Bungie owes you there life, blood sweat and tears and in all honesty, they don't owe you anything! they are making this game because they love to make great games, and if you don't like what you see so far, to bad suck it up and save the judgement for when the game comes out.

I wasnt complaining, its Halo fans that start getting all angry when you mention a valid point, that game is supposed be hitting shelves this year, that video looks very poor in terms of development time and how long they have to finish it. They need to get a move on or show us some better stuff to show that they are actually making genuine progress. And please dont give me lessons on games, I have tested alpha games before and know fine well what is acceptable quality, at the moment Halo 3 is looking poor. But yes it likely will look decent at the time of release, it has to.

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#44 PhantomNemesis
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Do they actually care what a few people say?! For Christ sakes, make a petition if you really think it's that bad.

It's Alpha footage, it clearly states that, half of that isn't gonna be in the public beta, and a lot less in the retail game. It'll look a lot better when it's out.

There is new stuff for the game, you can't expand on what's great, Halo is an unrealistic Sci-Fi that throws jumping, big guns and aliens at you, this isn't meant to be realistic. There isn't much you can add, a Cover system? You have an Energy Shield, why not let that soak up the lasers while you kick ass, plus Gears, GRAW and Vegas have done it to death for a while. I'd like to see someone give an idea for a new gameplay feature that's relevant and hasn't been included in Halo so far.

No matter how next-gen the game is meant to be, gameplay over graphics is pretty much a fact. You are probably addicted to Pong, Tetris, Goldeneye and Castlevania today because the gameplay is truly perfect. Halo 3 is not meant to give you a great gaming experience, Halo wasn't groundbreaking for just looks when it came out, you probably wouldn't have played it if it sucked in gameplay, would you? In the end, not only will it look better, but the looks aren't needed, the gameplay will be what you're looking at.

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#46 pjam07
Member since 2004 • 170 Posts

I agree with the TC. I was undecided about getting Halo 3, but now that I have seen this vid.......I am 100% certain I will NOT buy this garbage. Same old gameplay.......blah blah blah.......booooooooorrrrrrriiiiiiinnnngggggggXero319

 GOOD, please dont buy this game.  The last thing we need on live is another crying little kid like you.  "Same old gameplay" are you serious.  One of the main reason they have had over a BILLION games played on live is that halo generates so many unique situations with fun gameplay.  The footage is TWO YEARS OLD.  How can you comment on how it looks when it is TWO YEARS OLD.  It was just a featurette video to hold you over.  We found out what the x button does, what kind of things it will deploy and what some of the maps look like basically.  Be happy they gave us anything

 

When it all comes down to it, bungie rocks and HALO owns 

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No Man Cannon for you then.
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#48 kyle_1865
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Am I the only one who thinks the graphics are pretty damn shiny? (W00t, Firefly reference!)

i agree with you, sum scenes were awsome

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#49 mrxb0x360
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man, i actually think the graphics arent that bad in the video. i think it looks pretty good, but maybe its just me. one thing i saw in the video though that im not sure if i will like, is that thing that makes u jump higher or somethin. it shows one player jumping up to a person shooting the turret and its pretty high off the ground. Soul_to_Squeeze

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#50 Spartan-051
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You have no idea when that footage was being played though. That's the thing, you think they have been in Alpha stage this long? Nope, they tease you with that. Besides, if it isn't broken, don't try to fix it.TheSystemLord1

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