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But they didn't make it as good... I'm not trashing the game because it doesn't have a new engine, I'm saying that it's ridiculous there are that many bugs/glitches when Obsidian didn't have to focus on engine developments, they just had to polish what Bethesda did in 2008 and they failed. And why does it matter if it's a spin off? It's still a game with a 2 year development cycle that's loaded with bugs and a distinct lack of improvements.
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We all knew it would have the same engine that is why it only took 2 years? This game only 8 hours in is way better than fallout 3 it has only froze 1 time since i started playing and other than that no bugs or anything for me at all. What is ridiculous is you bashing a game saying they didnt have to work on an engine so it should have been flawless... UH HELLO it isnt washington D.C anymore bro? It is a new world, new monsters, new guns, iron sights, hardcore mode, new gameplay, better story, better missions, a great faction rep system, a crafting system, your weapons actually have to do enough damage to puncture armor now, new weapon mods, new bullets that do various things such as pierce armor, it is a MUCH better game like i said before. I love fallout 3 it is probably my favorite game this gen and fallout new vegas has exceeded ALL of my expectations. People need to stop bashing a great game for real other sites have given this game rave reviews despite bugs. Not only that the developer is releasing patches for the game to fix EVERYTHING so for the people who haven't bought it yet they wont even notice ANY bugs because by the time they buy it it will be patched... Most developers would just take the bad scores and say screw the people who already bought it. Honestly i am never trusting gamespot for reviews ever again because of this whole flaming drama fest that has ensued.
Umm no. That's the short answer. I'm not saying it should have been flawless, I'm saying that these glaring problems should have been fixed. You've played it for 8 hours with one freeze and you're comparing it to a reviewer who played the entire thing through? That's a senseless argument. I'm not even going to bother explaining how you have no basis for your complaint.
The faction rep system is a great addition. The lack of choice in Fallout 3 was something that really needed to be fixed. But your other reasons, better missions, better story. No, those things have nothing to do with the development cycle, that's your opinion. The crafting system is a tweak. It isn't some giant thing that took forever to add into the game. It's a simple little modification. As is fine aiming, making some new guns and crafting some new monsters. It astonishes me, that it took them two years to add these things on a solidified engine that they didn't have to tweak and somehow there's bugs galore. Even though these exact same features were made in a few months by the Fallout 3 modding community. What it boils down to, is that modders in their spare time are superior to Obsidian's development team. Hardcore mode, armor puncture, these aren't hard to add. You just have to tweak the game a little bit. Are they cool additions? You bet. Is it hard to implement? Not really.
I'm not attacking New Vegas' core game. I'm enjoying the game. All I'm saying is that people are attacking Gamespot's review even though there were legitimate concerns. You're 8 hours into with one freeze? I'm 22 hours into it with around 15, a corrupted save file, and 3 quests that didn't activate. The only reason I even found out about one is because my friend asked me if I did it.
And for the record, patches don't magically make the game on the shelves instantly better. Not everyone has an internet connection, the review properly reflects the product on the shelf. I'm sure that Kevin V also reviewed different copies. As I'm playing on the 360 and PS3 at the moment and I've had the same problems with both.
The story is good, the little modifications are great, but don't blindly defend the game when there are problems with the final product. It would be awesome if you made it through the whole game with one freeze, but the majority of players are having problems with it. It doesn't make them liars, it's just how it is.
Also, no, most developers don't just stop supporting games. Patches are often released and developers support a single title for years to come. The only time a company doesn't support a game is if it doesn't sell well or they weren't large in the first place and aren't capable of fixing it.
Too bad you didn't read the rest of your thread because I had already stated people dont have internet connections and can't update the game with a patch.
Also i never said anything about anyone having glitches i spoke about people bashing the game that have neve played it like teddy bear guy down below which again i am sure you never read.
Your statement about developers that stop supporting game is pretty much a reflection word for word of what i had said sooooo i dont get what you are going for there.
It is a brand new game they didnt just copy and past sh!t I can tell you are lying out of your butt about freezing 15 times as well learn to stop b!tching about a great game no one cares about your opinion anyways. :P
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