http://www.qj.net/Recently-manufactured-Xbox-360-bricked-after-20-minutes/pg/49/aid/101337

http://games.gearlive.com/playfeed/article/q307xbox-360-red-light-of-doom-problem

I understand it's been beaten to death before but I feel it's really worth bringing to light. Do we truly expect a device we paid over $300 for to die so quickly from normal use? I'm on my third 360 myself and even then my current one is artifacting and giving me grief.

I'm not looking to sue MS or anything. I'm not looking for sympathy or a refund either. I willingly bought my 360 knowing about the problems with the hardware against my concience just to play Oblivion early, since I didn't have the PC I have now back then. I know that any problems I have with my 360 will be covered at no charge up until February 17th 2009 (warranty). So I guess my question is this.

Are good games really enough for people? I only got a 360 to play Oblivion and anything else after that was just icing. So what if games like that we're exclusive? (at that time Oblivion was PC-360 only). What if Halo 3 was not only on one platform? What would make you wade through all the negative press and go through the effort to buy/own/maintain a 360?

if the third one dies, u were meant to have a ps3, which also has oblivion.nick_spot

I definately would go through the 'effort' I treat mine no different then I did my PS2 and have had no problems. Also with this console being 'new' it most definately is NOT new. He got it back from a bricked one he sent to MS, when they send you back a console they don't give you a brand new one, then they wouldn't be making as much money as they could, they send you someone elses old 360 that broke that they've fixed. Unfortunately for him they fixed that one wrong, but that's why (to me) at least it's a better idea to get a PRP from Bestbuy. When my 360 does crap out, I go there and I get a brand new console right there, no waiting for a box, then waiting for a new one to come in the mail...which also means when mine dies I'll also get one with HDMI!
Scarface_tm431

Maybe it was faked but I'm fairly confident the author's 360 was newly manufactured. I know that here in Canada they only do replacments. The 360 I have now was made last month.

This is a photo of the author's 360 from the second link.

I bought a 360 at launch, 3 days later it dies, i return it and get a new one lucky me i got a whole 4 days before that one dies, returned it for a refund, waited for PS3, haven't had a problem since.

M$ needs to get their act together 11million consoles sold with 33%returned is not 11 million sold.

look, i love the games coming out on the 360, but my god the system itself is garbage, after almost two years on the market there hasn't be a honest attempt to fix the problem. They say a new chip will lower the noise, and the heat but i dont see it making any difference in the systems failure rate. If they don't fix this soon it will hurt them even more in the long run.

Returns to sitting on the porch waiting for my refurbished 360 to arrive.

if the third one dies, u were meant to have a ps3, which also has oblivion.nick_spot

lol :P

if the third one dies, u were meant to have a ps3, which also has oblivion.nick_spot

correcty

look, i love the games coming out on the 360, but my god the system itself is garbage, after almost two years on the market there hasn't be a honest attempt to fix the problem. They say a new chip will lower the noise, and the heat but i dont see it making any difference in the systems failure rate. If they don't fix this soon it will hurt them even more in the long run.

Returns to sitting on the porch waiting for my refurbished 360 to arrive.

Sora311

correcty again!!

Well my 360 iv'e had for about a year and a half just got the rrod, and my buddy is fixing it with the X-Clamp replacement, he said so far the fix rate for the it is about 90% for him. But if that doesn't fix it I will buy a PS3. Only because I think MS is giving me no choice. I refuse to be garbage, with or without a warranty.

I've been extremely fortunate with my launch 360; however I purchased the extended MS warranty to be on the safe side.Ghost_Face

They are complete idiots (MS). The new Falcon chip wont help ANYTHING, it generates less heat yeah, but the CPU isn't the problem, it's the GPU. And the new Heatsink for the GPU solved nothing, my friend Cody has one a new 360 with the extra GPU, he had it for less than a month, 3rod. He said he called MS and got so frustrated because the guy from India couldn't speak clearly and he got no where he is thinking about PAYING my friend to fix it with the X-Clamp.

look, i love the games coming out on the 360, but my god the system itself is garbage, after almost two years on the market there hasn't be a honest attempt to fix the problem. They say a new chip will lower the noise, and the heat but i dont see it making any difference in the systems failure rate. If they don't fix this soon it will hurt them even more in the long run.

Returns to sitting on the porch waiting for my refurbished 360 to arrive.

Sora311

I think that one pic is a fake. The reason is the newer Premium 360s have HDMI. Not if a Core

I dont know for sure but it looks different to me. Anyways any system can break new or old but something just dont add up here.

Lolz. Lots of replies and horror stories so far. Thanks for the comments!

But, I feel I failed to ask the hard-hitting question.

If the 360 didn't have your favorite game as an exclusive (ie;Halo 3, Mass Effect, Gears, etc). What would make you want to purchase/own/maintain the system, even with all the hardware failures, negative press, and inconvienience? What features does it have that make you really want to own one if we were only talking about the Hardware and Xbox Live?

For me. It's probably the fact that it keeps me from playing games in long marathons that I used to do. I'm afraid if I play for more than 2 hours it would go kaput.

They are complete idiots (MS). The new Falcon chip wont help ANYTHING, it generates less heat yeah, but the CPU isn't the problem, it's the GPU. And the new Heatsink for the GPU solved nothing, my friend Cody has one a new 360 with the extra GPU, he had it for less than a month, 3rod. He said he called MS and got so frustrated because the guy from India couldn't speak clearly and he got no where he is thinking about PAYING my friend to fix it with the X-Clamp.

[QUOTE="Sora311"]

look, i love the games coming out on the 360, but my god the system itself is garbage, after almost two years on the market there hasn't be a honest attempt to fix the problem. They say a new chip will lower the noise, and the heat but i dont see it making any difference in the systems failure rate. If they don't fix this soon it will hurt them even more in the long run.

Returns to sitting on the porch waiting for my refurbished 360 to arrive.

digitalman42

You know there call centers are not in india. And you are wrong on what causes the 3 red lights.

No im right, what do you think causes it?

[QUOTE="digitalman42"]

They are complete idiots (MS). The new Falcon chip wont help ANYTHING, it generates less heat yeah, but the CPU isn't the problem, it's the GPU. And the new Heatsink for the GPU solved nothing, my friend Cody has one a new 360 with the extra GPU, he had it for less than a month, 3rod. He said he called MS and got so frustrated because the guy from India couldn't speak clearly and he got no where he is thinking about PAYING my friend to fix it with the X-Clamp.

[QUOTE="Sora311"]

look, i love the games coming out on the 360, but my god the system itself is garbage, after almost two years on the market there hasn't be a honest attempt to fix the problem. They say a new chip will lower the noise, and the heat but i dont see it making any difference in the systems failure rate. If they don't fix this soon it will hurt them even more in the long run.

Returns to sitting on the porch waiting for my refurbished 360 to arrive.

anubis8515

You know there call centers are not in india. And you are wrong on what causes the 3 red lights.

More news in. A kotaku member's newly repaired 360 dies in under 5 minutes!

http://kotaku.com/gaming/in-five-minutes-flat/bashcrafts-fixed-xbox-360-dies-again-299392.php

if the third one dies, u were meant to have a ps3, which also has oblivion.nick_spot

Dont wanna hijack the thread but quick question, since alot of people here had there 360s replaced. Once u send it in does the warrenty reset? because it would suck if you got the 3 red lights 2 and ahalf years in, get a another 360 and get the same problem 8 months later and the warenty is gone.sr_darkzodiac

My first one died just this morning after less than 10 months of ownership. I really hope that M$ can solve whatever caused the 3 red lights of death real soon.BigDaddyChacon

They already did like 6 months ago,which half the reason is the actuall owner like putting the 360 on carpet,no vent space for the fans,stacking stuff ontop of the 360,moving the 360 around with a disc inside ect.

Anyways im still on my first 360 (actually 2nd but I returned the 1st 360 since a prong in the cord broke) and I've had it almost 9 months.

:edit: btw if your talking about your 360 ignore my post,thought you where talking about 360's in general,so if its that reason totally ignore my post since Im barely awake and its 3 am.

wow...is this a new record? i am happy that my x360 is still fine.

I just got the RROD after 3 months of ownership. I feel like i've lost a really close friend. Thankfully, my neighbor doesn't play his 360 that often, so he's letting me borrow it until mine comes back from repair.

[QUOTE="nick_spot"]if the third one dies, u were meant to have a ps3, which also has oblivion.xXmeatwad225Xx

Are good games really enough for people?vitz3