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You just need to buy the COMPONENT cables for your launch X360 and you'll be able to get HD output just fine. They should cost no more than $20. Check on amazon.com
Also, make sure you go into your X360's video settings and set it to HD output. Most likely the highest you'll be able to go is 1080i
also in the settings as of now with the red yellow and white cables into my tv, it wont allow me to choose hdtv settings, it is blacked out, i can go to screen format below it and black level, but it wont let me choose hdtv settings.tpeezy4sheezythats because red, yellow and white are SDTV, you need green, red and blue for picture (there should be a red for the HDTV and a red one for SDTV, make sure u use the HDTV one)
not all tvs have compnent out some of the older ones dont thats why you need rf switchesWhat kind of tv doesn't have component inputs (rgb,wr)? I am sure they are on your tv somewhere, maybe on the back. Component cables support high definition.
Bansheezs
no its on my tv, haha it has all kinds of ports, I was talking about on the back of the 360 ahha. there is the thing that you plug hte power into and the thing that plugs into your 360 with red white yellow that you hook up into tv. do the vga cables repace that part, and turn it hd?tpeezy4sheezyTo actually answer your question, if you buy the component cable for the 360, which I thought component cables (red green blue) came with the 360 as well as the regular av cables (red yellow white) all bundled as one, they will plug into the same place as your old av plug (the trapezoidal plug that's not the power or modem/internet cable hookup). I am surprised if you did not get the component cables bundled with the av cables. My buddy bought a 20gb Pro shortly after the 360 launched and his cables are av and component together (one bundle being the red white and yellow av cables; the other red green and blue component cables; they split going to the tv, and come together going into the back of the 360. Also, remember to change the switch on the plug from SDTV to HDTV, or it will look like something is wrong), I know becasue I made him bring his 360 over so I could mooch before I was able to get my own Elite.
ok I admit when the 360 first launched I was cheap and I bought the cheapest one, little did I know that it didnt come with an hdmi port to play games in hd, (at the time I really woudnt have cared anyways because I didnt have an hdtv) well a few months ago I bought an 47'' lcd tv, and I was all excited to hook up the hdmi cable then uh oh, not there..I asked the idiot at bestbuy and he was like no all xboxs have hdmi ports, so we argued for 10 min about it then finally he looked online and saw I was right. I have seen an mad catz hdmi conversion kit, but I heard it was crap, and on the site it says product doesnt exist anymore. I have also heard that av cables could work, if so how do you plug those things in, I dont see any Av ports on the back lol, im clueless on this junk as you can tell. So can anyone tell me what I shold buy and list the product and how to plug it in...any info would be greatly appreciated. (understatement of the year) :)tpeezy4sheezyI could be wrong, but I don't believe any of the launch 360s had HDMI ports. I pre-ordered the only version that was available at the time and it didn't have HDMI.
not all tvs have compnent out some of the older ones dont thats why you need rf switches Hehe, gotta love the youngins![QUOTE="Bansheezs"]
What kind of tv doesn't have component inputs (rgb,wr)? I am sure they are on your tv somewhere, maybe on the back. Component cables support high definition.
PSPplayer988
also in the settings as of now with the red yellow and white cables into my tv, it wont allow me to choose hdtv settings, it is blacked out, i can go to screen format below it and black level, but it wont let me choose hdtv settings.tpeezy4sheezy
*facepalm + head shake*
wow...You argued with the guy at Best Buy that every 360 has HDMI and you won? Well, mine doesn't have HDMI, because like yours, it's an older model. I can't believe the guy caved and you won.
You're just one of those customers who doesn't research the product properly, then blame other people when you can't achieve what you're trying to.
P.S. It's also hilarious how many people think you need HDMI to achieve HD.
You just need to buy the COMPONENT cables for your launch X360 and you'll be able to get HD output just fine. They should cost no more than $20. Check on amazon.com
Also, make sure you go into your X360's video settings and set it to HD output. Most likely the highest you'll be able to go is 1080i
^^This. Component can do HD. Also, depending on your TV, some do support 1080p through component cable (mine does for example).[QUOTE="tpeezy4sheezy"]no its on my tv, haha it has all kinds of ports, I was talking about on the back of the 360 ahha. there is the thing that you plug hte power into and the thing that plugs into your 360 with red white yellow that you hook up into tv. do the vga cables repace that part, and turn it hd?Incredible_BulkTo actually answer your question, if you buy the component cable for the 360, which I thought component cables (red green blue) came with the 360 as well as the regular av cables (red yellow white) all bundled as one, they will plug into the same place as your old av plug (the trapezoidal plug that's not the power or modem/internet cable hookup). I am surprised if you did not get the component cables bundled with the av cables. My buddy bought a 20gb Pro shortly after the 360 launched and his cables are av and component together (one bundle being the red white and yellow av cables; the other red green and blue component cables; they split going to the tv, and come together going into the back of the 360. Also, remember to change the switch on the plug from SDTV to HDTV, or it will look like something is wrong), I know becasue I made him bring his 360 over so I could mooch before I was able to get my own Elite.
The core and old arcade models only came with standard A/V cables. Not the Component + A/V hybrid cables you get with the Premium or now "Pro" bundles.
I've always used VGA for my 360. The component input on my TV kinda sucks, and the pictures looks a little washed out. But using VGA, it's crystal clear.
OP. All cables will hook up into the same part on the back of the console. The only difference is the plugs that go into your TV. The part that plugs into your console always looks like a trapazoid.
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]^^This. Component can do HD. Also, depending on your TV, some do support 1080p through component cable (mine does for example).You just need to buy the COMPONENT cables for your launch X360 and you'll be able to get HD output just fine. They should cost no more than $20. Check on amazon.com
Also, make sure you go into your X360's video settings and set it to HD output. Most likely the highest you'll be able to go is 1080i
Eddie5vs1
Although true, 1080p through component is achieved through software on the TV. It's not true 1080p. Running at 720p would probably still be better. Especially if your TV is under 50". Because unless it is, you won't even notice a difference between 720p and 1080p. It takes a TV larger than 50" for 720p to start looking bad.
You just need to buy the COMPONENT cables for your launch X360 and you'll be able to get HD output just fine. They should cost no more than $20. Check on amazon.com
Also, make sure you go into your X360's video settings and set it to HD output. Most likely the highest you'll be able to go is 1080i
^^This. Component can do HD. Also, depending on your TV, some do support 1080p through component cable (mine does for example). Totally. Some tv's like the Sharps allow 1080p through component.This is a point that commonly gets mistaken. You can also get 1080p through the VGA cord which I used with my launch xbox. I think they only started putting in HDMI on the Elites and then the rest last year. So if you have an LCD tv you should go with the components if your tv lets you do 1080p or just get the VGA cable for $20. If you have a CRT(tube) tv then you can only use the component.^^This. Component can do HD. Also, depending on your TV, some do support 1080p through component cable (mine does for example).[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]
You just need to buy the COMPONENT cables for your launch X360 and you'll be able to get HD output just fine. They should cost no more than $20. Check on amazon.com
Also, make sure you go into your X360's video settings and set it to HD output. Most likely the highest you'll be able to go is 1080i
Dredg11
Although true, 1080p through component is achieved through software on the TV. It's not true 1080p. Running at 720p would probably still be better. Especially if your TV is under 50". Because unless it is, you won't even notice a difference between 720p and 1080p. It takes a TV larger than 50" for 720p to start looking bad.
I don't see how it is just the tv doing it since it is in the xbox setting to put to 1080p. Exactly HOW is it not true HD? I do agree about the size making a difference.[QUOTE="Dredg11"][QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"] ^^This. Component can do HD. Also, depending on your TV, some do support 1080p through component cable (mine does for example). BaconB1ts123
Although true, 1080p through component is achieved through software on the TV. It's not true 1080p. Running at 720p would probably still be better. Especially if your TV is under 50". Because unless it is, you won't even notice a difference between 720p and 1080p. It takes a TV larger than 50" for 720p to start looking bad.
I don't see how it is just the tv doing it since it is in the xbox setting to put to 1080p. Exactly HOW is it not true HD? I do agree about the size making a difference.I don't know all the details of it. But I do know that TVs that achieve 1080p through component are really running a double buffered 540p.
^^This. Component can do HD. Also, depending on your TV, some do support 1080p through component cable (mine does for example).[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]
You just need to buy the COMPONENT cables for your launch X360 and you'll be able to get HD output just fine. They should cost no more than $20. Check on amazon.com
Also, make sure you go into your X360's video settings and set it to HD output. Most likely the highest you'll be able to go is 1080i
Dredg11
Although true, 1080p through component is achieved through software on the TV. It's not true 1080p. Running at 720p would probably still be better. Especially if your TV is under 50". Because unless it is, you won't even notice a difference between 720p and 1080p. It takes a TV larger than 50" for 720p to start looking bad.
I'm not sure that's true about the software allowing 1080p. I do know that HD movies, like BD are copy protected which limits a user to using HDMI for full 1080p. Games don't have the same concerns (outputting with an unsecured connection). From reading the AVS forums, newer HDTV's have the appropriate hardware to disply "true" 1080p over component. Several sites have also done screen grabs over component and were able to capture true 1080p images.edit, to say it (hopefully) more clearly, movies can only do 1080p over HDMI due to security concerns, it has nothing to do with limits of component cables. Video games aren't concerned with the output source and thus they allow FULL 1080p over component.
[QUOTE="BaconB1ts123"][QUOTE="Dredg11"]
Although true, 1080p through component is achieved through software on the TV. It's not true 1080p. Running at 720p would probably still be better. Especially if your TV is under 50". Because unless it is, you won't even notice a difference between 720p and 1080p. It takes a TV larger than 50" for 720p to start looking bad.
I don't see how it is just the tv doing it since it is in the xbox setting to put to 1080p. Exactly HOW is it not true HD? I do agree about the size making a difference.I don't know all the details of it. But I do know that TVs that achieve 1080p through component are really running a double buffered 540p.
Not on newer HDTV's. It's true 1080p. To Bacon, honestly, you'll find better answers to these questions on the AVS forums. Those people know all the little details. :)[QUOTE="Dredg11"][QUOTE="BaconB1ts123"] I don't see how it is just the tv doing it since it is in the xbox setting to put to 1080p. Exactly HOW is it not true HD? I do agree about the size making a difference.Eddie5vs1
I don't know all the details of it. But I do know that TVs that achieve 1080p through component are really running a double buffered 540p.
Not on newer HDTV's. It's true 1080p. To Bacon, honestly, you'll find better answers to these questions on the AVS forums. Those people know all the little details. :) Yeah I just looked it up. The xbox is putting out true 1080p and the tv is displaying it. As mentioned only for games or unprotected movies. Was what I figured just needed to take a second look.[QUOTE="Dredg11"][QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"] ^^This. Component can do HD. Also, depending on your TV, some do support 1080p through component cable (mine does for example). Eddie5vs1
Although true, 1080p through component is achieved through software on the TV. It's not true 1080p. Running at 720p would probably still be better. Especially if your TV is under 50". Because unless it is, you won't even notice a difference between 720p and 1080p. It takes a TV larger than 50" for 720p to start looking bad.
I'm not sure that's true about the software allowing 1080p. I do know that HD movies, like BD are copy protected which limits a user to using HDMI for full 1080p. Games don't have the same concerns (outputting with an unsecured connection). From reading the AVS forums, newer HDTV's have the appropriate hardware to disply "true" 1080p over component. Several sites have also done screen grabs over component and were able to capture true 1080p images.Like I clarified in my next post, it's really more of a double buffered 540p. If your TV happens to have an "info" button where you can see the resolution and refresh rates your TV is running at, check it out. When I set my 360 to 1080p on component cables, and I press said info button, my TV reads "1920x540". Now I realize not everyone's TV will do this, but if you do have a way of checking, do so.
My TV isn't really that new though. So I guess it's possible that newer TVs are doing it. Doesn't matter either way. My point is, HDMI isn't necessary.
[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="Dredg11"]Not on newer HDTV's. It's true 1080p. To Bacon, honestly, you'll find better answers to these questions on the AVS forums. Those people know all the little details. :) Yeah I just looked it up. The xbox is putting out true 1080p and the tv is displaying it. As mentioned only for games or unprotected movies. Was what I figured just needed to take a second look. Yeah, I discovered the AVS forums when I first set up my home theater. Their info is usually the most accurate and will significantly decrease the amount of wrong information you get in the tricky world of electronics.I don't know all the details of it. But I do know that TVs that achieve 1080p through component are really running a double buffered 540p.
BaconB1ts123
Like I clarified in my next post, it's really more of a double buffered 540p. If your TV happens to have an "info" button where you can see the resolution and refresh rates your TV is running at, check it out. When I set my 360 to 1080p on component cables, and I press said info button, my TV reads "1920x540". Now I realize not everyone's TV will do this, but if you do have a way of checking, do so.Dredg11Ok, it's still isn't "buffered 540p" on all tv's through component cables. Component cables offer FULL 1080p. When I check my info on my TV it says "1080p". When my friend does it on his new Samsung, it's 1920X1080 over component. Maybe it's just your TV, I don't know. What I do know is that everyone on the AVS forums agree that component can do FULL 1080p, as does components wiki page. I agree though that HDMI isn't necessary. I can't tell a difference in the quality of the picture between my friends HDMI enabled xbox and my HDMI-less xbox.
[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"]
I can't tell a difference in the quality of the picture between my friends HDMI enabled xbox and my HDMI-less xbox.
Yep. Because if you're running the same resolution, there is no difference.
I know, but a lot of people will spend hundreds of dollars upgrading from component to HDMI when the difference is negligible on TV's smaller than 50". I have a friend who traded in his HDMI less xbox just to get the same one with HDMI.As others have said, you don't really need HDMI to get HD. Get some 360 component cables and you're set. While HDMI can handle video and sound in one swoop, the 360 wasn't designed originally to need HDMI to get the most out of it. It uses DVD, not Blu-Ray, so you aren't locked out of high-res for anything.
Ooooooooooooooooollllllllllllld tvs. (kid) Just for you (ahem) kids out there you may inherit a TV with no component inputs, there are converter boxes for this which jack into the Coax (cable/sat/antenna) input of your TV. Radio Shack.What kind of tv doesn't have component inputs (rgb,wr)? I am sure they are on your tv somewhere, maybe on the back. Component cables support high definition.
Bansheezs
I don't know, I don't have an hd tv anymore, I just use SD, but when I first got my 360 I got the premium bundle, I thought that the cheap bundle was a stupid idea of them even making.. I mean c'mon no memory, can't do much toward xbl or anything, to get the real experience out of it, you should get the premium bundle the core was a waste of factory space
so let me get this str8 I should buy the red green and blue or whatever component cables, that plug into that little trapezoid looking thingy lol. Also isnt there a swich on the component cable trapezoid thingy that is hd or not, and wont that allow me to change to hd tv settings in the xbox menu. thank you guys sooo much for the info!!!!tpeezy4sheezyNo, component (red, blue, and green) will connect to your inputs on your TV that are red, green, and blue. The trapezoid thing is for VGA.
Alright, this is my last ditch effort to help you out. Here is a pic of a variety of connections, each labeled.
This second picture is of component inputs (notice they are blue, green, and red). Also, be aware that component cables to no transfer sound, you'll need a seperate cable for that that is just has red and white connectors (although sometime it adds yellow for picture). Other than this, I'm not sure how else to help you.
[QUOTE="tpeezy4sheezy"]I was all excited to hook up the hdmi cable then uh oh, not there..I asked the idiot at bestbuy and he was like no all xboxs have hdmi ports, so we argued for 10 min about it then finally he looked online and saw I was right.Dredg11
*facepalm + head shake*
wow...You argued with the guy at Best Buy that every 360 has HDMI and you won? Well, mine doesn't have HDMI, because like yours, it's an older model. I can't believe the guy caved and you won.
You're just one of those customers who doesn't research the product properly, then blame other people when you can't achieve what you're trying to.
Just for clarification, it was the TC that argued that NOT all 360s have an HDMI port. It was the BestBuy employee that claimed all 360s have an HDMI port. The BestBuy employee said "No, all XBOXs have HDMI ports."
I'm not sure that's true about the software allowing 1080p. I do know that HD movies, like BD are copy protected which limits a user to using HDMI for full 1080p. Games don't have the same concerns (outputting with an unsecured connection). From reading the AVS forums, newer HDTV's have the appropriate hardware to disply "true" 1080p over component. Several sites have also done screen grabs over component and were able to capture true 1080p images.[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="Dredg11"]
Although true, 1080p through component is achieved through software on the TV. It's not true 1080p. Running at 720p would probably still be better. Especially if your TV is under 50". Because unless it is, you won't even notice a difference between 720p and 1080p. It takes a TV larger than 50" for 720p to start looking bad.
Dredg11
Like I clarified in my next post, it's really more of a double buffered 540p. If your TV happens to have an "info" button where you can see the resolution and refresh rates your TV is running at, check it out. When I set my 360 to 1080p on component cables, and I press said info button, my TV reads "1920x540". Now I realize not everyone's TV will do this, but if you do have a way of checking, do so.
My TV isn't really that new though. So I guess it's possible that newer TVs are doing it. Doesn't matter either way. My point is, HDMI isn't necessary.
My "info" on the tv says 1080P. On my non 1080p tv I can set the xbox to 1080p and it looks fine but can't be 1080p because the THAT tv does not do it. No info button on that one so I don't know what the rez is.Yes, yes it does matter. If you have a good tv that is good in size, you WILL tell a difference. That is why there is a differentiation between the two, because there is one. So do not say there is no difference in the two, please...ya use the components use the hd ones then put the audio ones in 4 red and white. 1080i and 1080p doent matter you can barlly tell the difference.........
Kill3rX
if you got a core or arcade you wont have the component cables you will have to buy them, or i think a better suggestion is to buy the offical VGA lead. this will let you play in near enough 1080p via using VGA for the graphics. it will look better than component on your tv..as you wont get 1080p on component so since you have to buy a cable get the vga cable you wont regret itdjrobstWow. it is like you missed all the posts in this thread. Component CAN do 1080P so can VGA. Composite (yellow) can't do HD at all and that is the cable that comes with the arcade unit.
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