PC Live vs. 360 Live

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#1 deactivated-5f033ecf40fed
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With Vista integrating PC players into the Live community, I have to wonder: will Live Gold ever be free?  I can't see the system working out if PC players get to play against 360 players without the additional subscription fee.  However, I have my doubts that PC players would be willing to pay a fee for games that have been free to play online for so long.  So, in my mind, either Live becomes free on 360, or PC players pay a subscription fee...  or everyone pays a subscription fee and is able to play on PC or 360 using the same account.
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#2 njdss4
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If it's not free I won't play any of those games. FPS games have always been free online and always should be. If it's an MMO then a subscription fee might be worthwhile.
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#3 XL70
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You still need a Gold membership to play on "Games for Windows Live".
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#4 XL70
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Official website for Games for Windows
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#5 xbox360_4_lyf
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i love xbox live it like never lagggs the only online internet game that ui love is runescape
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#6 njdss4
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You still need a Gold membership to play on "Games for Windows Live".XL70
Yuck. There goes Micro$oft trying to rip all of us off again. Just play on private servers then.
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#7 quetzalcoatl45
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I hear you need live gold to play PC Vs. 360.

 
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#8 XL70
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I hear you need live gold to play PC Vs. 360.

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You need a Gold membership to play Halo 2 multiplayer on PC. And Halo 2 doesn't support PC vs 360, just PC vs PC.
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#9 ACESandElGHTS
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If Microsoft wants to charge a fee to play on Xbox Live, well, we've all shown we're willing to do it.

I agree with whomever said MS is just trying to wring more money out of gamers by charging to play PC games.

I was pretty annoyed when I paid good cash money for updates to GRAW and CoD 3.  Once upon a time, Xbox updates came FREE (e.g. every other Ghost Recon title, Halo 2, etc.) 

Then along came PGR 2 and some other games where apparently the $50-$60 purchase price wasn't enough to include a few measley updates.  PGR 2 Paris booster pack?  I paid real money to race a bunch of oval-shaped tracks in a BMW 5 series?

Gamers are like sheep sometimes.  "Microsoft is charging money for it?  It must be good!  Better dig out my wallet!"

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#10 kodai
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ACESandEIGHTS, What do you mean you paid good money for "updats" to GRAW and CoD3? It's my understanding that any game patches are free to Live members (Silver or Gold) and that only extra content is charged for. New maps are extra contanet and not a game patch. If not then I was unaware of this and I agree that a patch to correct problems in software should be free. Still, I have no problem for a company to charge money for new content such as maps, items, levels, etc.
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Personally, I think DLC is a double-edged sword. It's nice to have easy access to expansion packs (Shivering Isles for Oblivion), or even pay extra for some map packs. But what makes me concerned is that it may give companies incentive to put out games that aren't finished. I love Lumines Live, but I would've rathered pay 20-25 bucks and gotten a full game than to have to buy a game in pieces. Good to see they've learned from their mistakes, though, as Castlevania SOTN will not be released this way. I fear if nobody complained about the way Lumines was approached, we'd be paying a couple bucks for one level every few months.

The paying to play over PC is just flat-out BS. It's never happened before, and there will be a big rebellion. I love the Xbox Live service and am perfectly pleased to pay $50 a year for it, but if you told me that I had to pay for online PC gaming I'd be furious. It's like sitting down at a coffee shop and having to pay for a sugar packet.

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#12 bindip
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MS can go to hell if they make u pay for games online !!!! for the pc
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#13 GunnerCDM
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If it helps any I'm pretty sure the accounts are crossplatform... Perhaps they won't make you pay unless you're playing on the 360-pc servers
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#14 WillT12345
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Live accounts are Live accounts, if you have one now you can log onto it using a vista PC. And just like Live is a service on the 360 it will be a service on the PC, offering more than just a list of people to connect with. You will have the friends list and msging services, probibly some sort of market place, auto-updates, ect ect. It really does add a lot of convenience for just 50 bucks a year.
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#15 SicsStringFreak
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[QUOTE="XL70"]You still need a Gold membership to play on "Games for Windows Live".njdss4
Yuck. There goes Micro$oft trying to rip all of us off again. Just play on private servers then.

rip us off, they are the one company in gameing that is really thinking about the gamer. and how to improve their experience. im glad you have to have a paid gold account. because it will improve live overall, a free sever will never out preform a well financed server. period.
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#16 ACESandElGHTS
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ACESandEIGHTS, What do you mean you paid good money for "updats" to GRAW and CoD3?kodai
Ok, ok, so I said "updates" instead of "downloadable content."  Silly me for not using the correct jargon.

Personally, I think DLC is a double-edged sword. It's nice to have easy access to expansion packs (Shivering Isles for Oblivion), or even pay extra for some map packs. But what makes me concerned is that it may give companies incentive to put out games that aren't finished. I love Lumines Live, but I would've rathered pay 20-25 bucks and gotten a full game than to have to buy a game in pieces. Good to see they've learned from their mistakes, though, as Castlevania SOTN will not be released this way. I fear if nobody complained about the way Lumines was approached, we'd be paying a couple bucks for one level every few months.

The paying to play over PC is just flat-out BS. It's never happened before, and there will be a big rebellion. I love the Xbox Live service and am perfectly pleased to pay $50 a year for it, but if you told me that I had to pay for online PC gaming I'd be furious. It's like sitting down at a coffee shop and having to pay for a sugar packet.Generic_Dude

I'm with Generic Dude on this one.  Weak games can be fixed by downloadable content, but if it adds 30% or more to the price of the game, well, it pisses people off. 

As far as paying for online play over Windows, yeah I can see people getting hot over that.  But it's all we've ever known on XBL, so everyone's down with it.  Before you know it, there will be marketing agreements with EA and Ubisoft and whomever else and all the game packages will have "Requires Microsoft Live Subscription to play online." 

Either that, or it will be so unpopular that you'll never hear about it again.  If, like someone said, your XBL subscription allows you to play PC games on Live, then there's nothing to worry about. :)

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#17 lobobizarro
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If you already are a Gold Subscriber, I don't see the big deal. Now, if you don't own an X360, then yes, I don't see myself subscribing to Gold. What are they going to do, have special PC servers for those that don't pay and have PC-X360 servers for those with Gold Accounts? I mean it's cool that Microsoft wants to combine PC and X360 gaming, but not many want it, much less want to pay for it. We will just have to see how this plays out once these cross platform games hit Live.
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#18 KillaHalo2o9
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I dont know but, the good thing is that Live will get alot more players :)  Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
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#19 deactivated-5f033ecf40fed
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I'd rather have them drop the subscription fee when PC players start to using the Live servers. It's not that I think $50/year is too much, but hey, I can always use that money to buy another game.