People here really need to stop bashing Gears 2

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#1 NicAgent
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I mean ok Gears 2 has lagged and/or players have quit games, I've experienced it, but I can sometimes go for many matches without either of those problems occuring. I did not keep an official count, but I'd say in only 10-20% of the games I've played in the last few weeks were affected by these problems. I find that this forum as well as the forum for Gears 2 itself are setting bad examples for what players think of this game. I mean Gears 2 has some of the most complex graphics ever seen in video gaming and networking code is quite challenging. The shear amount of effort into the game's development really cannot be underestimated, and understanding needs to be made that players cannot expect the system to be perfect. On another note, players always want to complain about how they are getting killed. It makes it seem like there is no such kill in the game that isn't "cheap". Players complain about being two-pieced; but look - if that player didn't get two pieced, they may have been chainsawed instead - and players complain about chainsaw deaths too. Should they not get killed by a melee/close range encounter like that then they'll complain about being Torqued, Grenaded/Proximity Mined, Mortar, etc. Players dont seem to mind too much deaths simply from Lancer/Hammerburst bullets alone but those don't relatively occur often.
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#2 caddy
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People have the right to state their own opinions of a game. I have stated my opinion on the game several times. A lot of people like the game, a lot of others don't. The whole purpose of a forum is for people to share their opinions.
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#3 delta4062
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1 People can say they hate the game if they want its their OPINION 2 Paragraphs are your friend
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#4 chaoscougar1
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funnily enough a forum is a place for people to express their opinions, if u dont agree with them fine, say it in a nice way when they state, but back up your words. i think the game is amazing WHEN IT DOESNT LAG, unfortunately that seems to be a rare thing and thus the game annoys me (being in australia it takes .5-1 whole second from when the gun is fired to when the bullets actually meet their target). and for the record i dont mind being killed in any other way EXCEPT CHAINSAW, i cannot stand that weapon, if u use it (other than the rare occasion when there is no time to change weapons or are backed into a corner) then in my opinion you are a noob
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#6 chaoscougar1
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and for the record 10-20% is alot, that means maybe 1 in 5 games has an issue, that isnt a good stat
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#7 II-FBIsniper-II
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So I shouldn't complain that Gears 2 is full of glitches because game development is hard? I suggest Epic get into the fast food industry then.
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#8 wavey_gravey
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Up until this weekend I would have probably agreed with you, but after this weekend, I am afraid that I am going to complain a little about Gears. Over the weekend, I downloaded the new maps - firstly 800 points for only 3 new maps is not good IMO. I then tried to play some games on those new maps, but I really struggled to get a game. The download seems to have resolved the wait to get in to the game, but the addition of new achievements seems to have created an altogether bigger and more frustrating monster! That of the early quitter! :(

I would say about 50% of the games I tried to get in to at the weekend suffered from people quitting early so that one team is left severely disadvantaged with maybe only 3-4 players or in some occassions only 2 players. At one point on Saturday I tried to get in to a game three times in a row only to lose connection to the host, presumably because they had quit because it wasn't Annex or a game on the map that they haven't won on yet. It was really frustrating - to add to my disappointment, I lost rank because of all the early quitters which really ****** me off. :evil:

I don't like online achievements purely for this reason - I love achievements, but online ones just turn people in to selfish ********. NOT HAPPY! :(

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#9 fracot
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funnily enough a forum is a place for people to express their opinions, if u dont agree with them fine, say it in a nice way when they state, but back up your words. i think the game is amazing WHEN IT DOESNT LAG, unfortunately that seems to be a rare thing and thus the game annoys me (being in australia it takes .5-1 whole second from when the gun is fired to when the bullets actually meet their target). and for the record i dont mind being killed in any other way EXCEPT CHAINSAW, i cannot stand that weapon, if u use it (other than the rare occasion when there is no time to change weapons or are backed into a corner) then in my opinion you are a noobchaoscougar1
I agree with you but why is someone a noob for using the chainsaw, after all it is in the game, It's like people were called noobs for suing the m16 in cod4 but the weapon is in the game so you cannot be a 'noob' for using it. Most very experienced cod4 players used the m16 because it's slightly overpowered but they are not 'new players' and they are just exploiting something in the game to be better but what's wrong with that if everyone can do? Everyone can use the chainsaw if they want so if your annoyed when people chainsaw you, chainsaw them back...
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#10 RebornInFlames
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I don't see how anyone can put up with that proximity grenade crap. It nearly breaks the game. Seriously, can anyone on this board give a reasoned explanation for why these should be in the game???
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#11 ForsakenWicked
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At first I wasnt getting too much lag or had too many quitters on a match. Nowadays, its almost unbearable, all team mates quiting, lagging to the points you can't even shoot. How am I supposed to play and enjoy like this?
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#13 fifthagent
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When Gears runs well (which is about half the time in my opinion) it is quite fun. Shoot people, they die. The problem starts with the invincible host/unplayable lag issues. Other games lag as well but one can usually make due while getting a few kills. In Gears, though, your shots simply don't count...and then you get one-shotted from twenty feet. Under optimal conditions, Gears is definitely a solid game but if you can only get that optimal performance around half the time, it just gets old really quickly.

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#14 caddy
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I would say about 50% of the games I tried to get in to at the weekend suffered from people quitting early so that one team is left severely disadvantaged with maybe only 3-4 players or in some occassions only 2 players. At one point on Saturday I tried to get in to a game three times in a row only to lose connection to the host, presumably because they had quit because it wasn't Annex or a game on the map that they haven't won on yet. wavey_gravey
That goes back to the good old thing of Epic not letting you pick what game mode you want. When they make achievements for a specific game mode on specifc maps, they should at least let you pick what mode you want to play, and then find players that also want to play that mode. That would stop a whole bunch of quitters from quitting, as they would actually be playing the mode they want to play.
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#15 SilasMars
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[QUOTE="wavey_gravey"]I would say about 50% of the games I tried to get in to at the weekend suffered from people quitting early so that one team is left severely disadvantaged with maybe only 3-4 players or in some occassions only 2 players. At one point on Saturday I tried to get in to a game three times in a row only to lose connection to the host, presumably because they had quit because it wasn't Annex or a game on the map that they haven't won on yet. Caddy06_88
That goes back to the good old thing of Epic not letting you pick what game mode you want. When they make achievements for a specific game mode on specifc maps, they should at least let you pick what mode you want to play, and then find players that also want to play that mode. That would stop a whole bunch of quitters from quitting, as they would actually be playing the mode they want to play.

Agreed. Come on, Bungie figured that out... what 5 years ago?
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#16 rp108
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Gears Of War 2 has its problems online for sure. I don't think it has completley ruined the game though. If every gamed played like when you are host the online would be amazing. I like the single player better than the first too. Hopefully they keep working on patches and introduce a region filter because that's the main reason the rooms are so laggy.
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#17 InjuredNoodle
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gears2 mp is gay period. exclamation mark! already sold it $ call of duty franchise owns gearsturbsv
Agreed. Just pop in any Call of Duty game and go back to Gears 2 and see why its so bad. I still can't believe how bad they screwed it up when it should be so easy. Even after TU2 they still haven't fixed a majority of the complaintschoosing gametype is on the top of the list for me.
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#18 Lollicupkins
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I don't see how anyone can put up with that proximity grenade crap. It nearly breaks the game. Seriously, can anyone on this board give a reasoned explanation for why these should be in the game???RebornInFlames

i'm so glad i am not the only one that feels this way.

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#19 strawberry9
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maybe if clif B and his amazing programers took the time to fix gltiches and actually test the game online... we wouldn be having this discussion.
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#20 armyman455
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people have too short attention spans that if something doesnt satisfy them instantly they throw it off as bad or dumb its just the curse of our dumb society and if something has any errors in it at all people only look at them instead of looking at the good in things
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#21 chandlerr_360
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Why WOULDN'T people complain? Gears 2 online is the biggest onling gaming joke...well, EVER!
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#22 PJthePlayer
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Why not bash Gears 2, considering the online play is complete garbage? Lag, cheats, and little kids who shouldn't even be on the game make the online experience a nightmare. Sadly enough, the first Gears is a whole lot better than the second. Gears 2 brings almost nothing new to the series, it feels just like playing the first one with new maps. According to my tag the last time I played Gears 2 was December 29th, and it's been sitting on my shelf collecting dust ever since. What a disappointment.
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#23 RebornInFlames
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people have too short attention spans that if something doesnt satisfy them instantly they throw it off as bad or dumb its just the curse of our dumb society and if something has any errors in it at all people only look at them instead of looking at the good in thingsarmyman455
lol if you ordered a sandwich and it had cockroaches in it, would you be so keen at looking at the good in it?
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#24 RebornInFlames
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Why not bash Gears 2, considering the online play is complete garbage? Lag, cheats, and little kids who shouldn't even be on the game make the online experience a nightmare. Sadly enough, the first Gears is a whole lot better than the second. Gears 2 brings almost nothing new to the series, it feels just like playing the first one with new maps. According to my tag the last time I played Gears 2 was December 29th, and it's been sitting on my shelf collecting dust ever since. What a disappointment.PJthePlayer

Actually that's what I wanted for it, just like the first one with new maps and weapons. In fact if they did that now and scrapped all the gameplay changes from the first I would shut up and hop online. Instead they decide they need to remove any skill from the game and 'overhaul' the gameplay in a manner that is similar to replacing a Ferrari's engine with a Geo motor with a cracked engine block.

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#25 armyman455
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[QUOTE="armyman455"]people have too short attention spans that if something doesnt satisfy them instantly they throw it off as bad or dumb its just the curse of our dumb society and if something has any errors in it at all people only look at them instead of looking at the good in thingsRebornInFlames
lol if you ordered a sandwich and it had cockroaches in it, would you be so keen at looking at the good in it?

lol although that is an amusing analogy its not quite the same now granted theres alot of stuff that needs to be worked out just let them im sure their doing something epic is good with that type of stuff plus its not half as bad as SOME people say and the single player and horde modes are still very fun
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#26 Mike-uk
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Why not bash Gears 2, considering the online play is complete garbage? Lag, cheats, and little kids who shouldn't even be on the game make the online experience a nightmare. Sadly enough, the first Gears is a whole lot better than the second. Gears 2 brings almost nothing new to the series, it feels just like playing the first one with new maps. According to my tag the last time I played Gears 2 was December 29th, and it's been sitting on my shelf collecting dust ever since. What a disappointment.PJthePlayer
Agree with that all the way, Gears 2 brought nothing new to the table and plus i have to admit a weak storyline in this one. Oh and wtf was with the ending boss, that was a joke. Online for Gears 2 is a nightmare, load of crap.