(Poll) Opinions On the MS Ban Hammer

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#1 Rabbid_Hampster
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With the ban hammer falling swiftly from MS whats your opinion on this. Personally I feel owning a console allows you to do whatever you wish with it. The decision to ban from isnt even a bad idea to me but permanate...I dunno. I think that there should be a way to un blacklist your console. While I agree with this banning from live I feel its more of a swift kick to the nuts to people who modded their consoles becasue now they will have to purchase a new one to play on live. Not all mods were designed to bootleg games.
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#2 Ninja_0f_Enigma
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While I don't like modders ruining the sheer gameplay of a game, I do have to say that banning them forever is unfair. Though that doesn't go without saying that they shouldn't be punished, but if they agree to remove the mods from their 360, then they should be allowed back on.
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#3 Generic_Dude
Member since 2006 • 11707 Posts

They're banned from Live, that's all. When you own a console it's yours, but when you sign up for Live you agree to terms of service that include not modding your console. If you disagree with the TOS, you don't have to subscribe to Live. You can be disconnected for it and enjoy your modified personal property. I don't see what's so complicated about this.

It's not like your console is broken if they ban your account.  

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#4 b11051973
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Videogame makers sell their consoles at a lose in hopes to make that up in software sales.  If people are buying a console and not buying games, then MS just loses.  Plus, all banned people are really losing is access to Xbox Live.  They can still use their consoles to play games and such. 

They did the same thing on the original Xbox.  So, if you're shocked that your 360 got banned, you're just an idiot.

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#5 Staryoshi87
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You break the rules, you should be broken.
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#6 msjr78
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I like this ban. If you know the terms of service, then you shouldn't mod if you want to play on Live. It would be too difficult to un-ban or un-blacklist a console. They aren't going to take the time to communicate with every single modder and ask if they promise not to mod their console any more. People would still try to mod if they knew there was a way out of the ban. Once you're on the list, you're on the list. Go ahead and do whatever you want to your console. Just know that you can't go online if you do so.
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#7 b11051973
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Oh yeah, I forgot about the cheaters.  It is in their Xbox Live terms not to use a modded 360 to connect.  If people have modded 360s, they can use it to cheat in online games like Halo 3.  Nobody wants to play online games with cheaters.  It just isn't fun.  If Xbox Live is full of cheaters, people will migrate away from it in droves.

I had a modded original Xbox, but turned off the mod chip when I connected to Xbox Live.

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#8 fenwickhotmail
Member since 2004 • 7308 Posts

You break the rules, you should be broken.Staryoshi87

lol i agree

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#9 Lord_Drax
Member since 2004 • 144 Posts

[QUOTE="Staryoshi87"]You break the rules, you should be broken.fenwickhotmail

lol i agree

I agree as well! Good move MS! Time to get those cheaters/modders out...LOL

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#10 skyyfox1
Member since 2003 • 13015 Posts
thank god.. get those low lifes out!!!
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#11 JohnWinger
Member since 2007 • 1903 Posts

You break the rules, you should be broken.Staryoshi87

 

Do you live in North Korea?

Its just that in America, being a Chrisitian nation we have learned to forgive our neigbors' sins.

Perhaps that philosophy is over your head?

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#12 msjr78
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[QUOTE="Staryoshi87"]You break the rules, you should be broken.JohnWinger

Do you live in North Korea?

Its just that in America, being a Chrisitian nation we have learned to forgive our neigbors sins.

Perhaps that philosophy is over your head?

Not if the sin is cheating on Xbox Live. That is unforgivable.
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#13 solidsolo
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im glad they banned the mods.  can't have them cheaters on live!
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#14 cristrem
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Here, here....  I agree, moders hurt the industry a lot more than they think...  It's the good revenus from sales of games that permit publishers/producers/programmers to make better ones...  If everyone modded their consoles and played copies, we wouldn't of had Geras of war, and all those other great titles out there...  I say ban them sinners...
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[QUOTE="Staryoshi87"]You break the rules, you should be broken.JohnWinger

 

Do you live in North Korea?

Its just that in America, being a Chrisitian nation we have learned to forgive our neigbors' sins.

Perhaps that philosophy is over your head?

We are not a Christian nation. We are a secular nation, who just happens to have a majority of its citizens as Christian. Perhaps the concept of seperation of church and state is over your head? Not all of us are Christian, or particularly like having Christianity thrust into our faces every time we turn around. In particular, it is a little out of place on a gaming messageboard.
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#16 BuffysFaith
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Everyone should be equal. And that goes for purchasing games and modding systems. MS is promoting equality while saying you shouldn't be doing illegal things. What great ppl they are lol.
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#17 msjr78
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Everyone should be equal. And that goes for purchasing games and modding systems. MS is promoting equality while saying you shouldn't be doing illegal things. What great ppl they are lol.BuffysFaith
I don't get what you're trying to say.
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#18 Scott911
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  Hey, if someone wants to mod thier console, go ahead.  Just don't go online and I'll be fine.  And if you do, you are going to get the boot from Microsoft, and Microsoft has a very big boot.
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#19 Tom2cool4U
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Isnt charging 50 for a game a crime, anyway
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#20 msjr78
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Isnt charging 50 for a game a crime, anywayTom2cool4U
Back in the day, I bought "Blades of Steel" for the NES for $50. That was a crime.
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#21 Rabbid_Hampster
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Isnt charging 50 for a game a crime, anywayTom2cool4U

Another topic entirely but it could correlate here. 

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#22 monco59
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They deserve to be banned, pure and simple. Anyone who says they were unjustly banned is just a modder looking for sympathy. Everyone's always complaining about how the industry is taking a turn for the worse and don't seem to understand this is exactly the reason.
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#23 monco59
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[QUOTE="Tom2cool4U"]Isnt charging 50 for a game a crime, anywayRabbid_Hampster

Another topic entirely but it could correlate here.

And you think that justifies modding? Exactly the opposite my friend. When more and more people start the pirate lifestyle, games will only get more expensive as sales drop. Also, don't complain about 50 bucks a pop when many of us pay an excess of 80 bucks for our games. And you know what? We do it happily since we understand that pirating will only hurt us in the long run... 

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#24 Thornorway
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I think they should be permamently banned, cause modding your 360 is the same as saying, hey i run pirated software on it, cause why else would you mood it. To claim you run only back-up is bulls**t.

Congrats to MS for placing a obstacle on the pirates 

 

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#25 FearlessSpirit
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I think they should be permamently banned, cause modding your 360 is the same as saying, hey i run pirated software on it, cause why else would you mood it. To claim you run only back-up is bulls**t.

Congrats to MS for placing a obstacle on the pirates

 

Thornorway

Actually, the whole disc scratching deal made me want to make back ups of my games. I still have three copies of Gears of War due to disc scratching and unsuccesful repairs. Which, I won't get refunded. So I was considering making back ups of my titles. And why shouldn't I be allowed to? In a hard sense of the word; I think if my own console tries to destroy my games, I at least should be allowed to make back ups of them. 

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#26 ssj4_2004
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True nobody likes cheaters, including myself. It's just that there is one thing people seem to be forgetting... IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO "MOD" A 360!

The only thing anyone can do with a hacked firmware is play a copied game. THAT IS IT. There is no way to run unsigned code on the 360, what so ever. Backed-up games cannot ruin on-line play for anyone this time around. Since the 360 is almost impervious to any form of hacking.

 

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#27 Deihmos
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True nobody likes cheaters, including myself. It's just that there is one thing people seem to be forgetting... IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO "MOD" A 360!

The only thing anyone can do with a hacked firmware is play a copied game. THAT IS IT. There is no way to run unsigned code on the 360, what so ever. Backed-up games cannot ruin on-line play for anyone this time around. Since the 360 is almost impervious to any form of hacking.

 

ssj4_2004

So you think ti is right that some have to pay and others get everything free? It does not work like that. I am sure when you go to work you expect to get paid.