Possible price drop announcement at gamescon from Microsoft !?

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#1 rain1128
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especially since Microsoft announced that you dont need the kinect plugged in , maybe sell a xbox without one for 399$ ?

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#2 JohnFifteen12
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That would be very nice, but I'm not sure how likely it is to happen.

Microsoft clearly is on a mission to repair the damage that has been done to their brand in the last few months, and doing something like that would blow the doors off the whole "console war" and get Microsoft right back into the thick of things, so it would be a wise move to make at this point.

I would love to see it happen.

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#3 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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I that happens, then it is game on!!!! Of course the Sony fanbots will still be screaming about the PS4 being the stronger of the two even at an even price point. I however would simply counter with the FACT that the X1 actually has these things called exclusive games at launch. All the PS4 has is Killzone and it is going to languish behind CoD Ghosts and BF4!!
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I that happens, then it is game on!!!! Of course the Sony fanbots will still be screaming about the PS4 being the stronger of the two even at an even price point. I however would simply counter with the FACT that the X1 actually has these things called exclusive games at launch. All the PS4 has is Killzone and it is going to languish behind CoD Ghosts and BF4!!ShoTTyMcNaDeS
Lol! FACT, You talk about Sony fanboys but your post is obvious that you are a Xbox fanboy. Exclusives are opinionated and depends on the individual as to what's better. In retrospect, all the Xbox has is Titanfall. See what I did there? Back to the topic, if MS lowers the price without a Kinect type bundle then Im all game. I hope they do tho, I really want one minus the Kinect.
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#5 jekyll
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That won't happen. If Kinect is to have great games and developers are to spend time and money coming up with creative, awesome uses for it, then every unit needs to have it. A peripheral with 100% install base gets supported and has great things made for it; a peripheral with 15% install base gets ignored and languishes.

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#6 JohnFifteen12
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That won't happen. If Kinect is to have great games and developers are to spend time and money coming up with creative, awesome uses for it, then every unit needs to have it. A peripheral with 100% install base gets supported and has great things made for it; a peripheral with 15% install base gets ignored and languishes.

jekyll

 

Kinect isn't just about games, though. In fact, I think Microsoft would be very wise to back off the "Kinect makes games better" sales pitch and move it more towards "Kinect makes navigating around your Xbox dashboard better". Market it as an option to navigate hands-free (and all the other non-gaming related stuff it is capable of) and just let the game integration go by the wayside.

It is doing more harm than good at this point, but the Kinect could still be offered as a "cool" way of navigating through the One's dashboard, thus allowing Microsoft to offer a "Kinect-less" version for those that "just want to play games, without a Kinect".

I can undertsand why Microsoft would be hesitant to do that right now, but if sales are very weak, they may not have any other choice down the road.

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#7 marcheegsr
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With all the recent changes I wouldn't be suprised.

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#9 vpacalypse
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The might sacrifice it in favour of the xbox console...then again MS have invested a lot into kinect & it would hurt just as much to throw away such an investment like kinect out.

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#10 nickr2d2
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Ok, here goes:

First, Microsoft will NOT drop their price. They aren't going to make a PS4 clone, and that's fine with me. IT'S DONE. THE PRICE IS $500. There's too many articles and forums on the internet about unfounded rumors.

Plus, the PS4 + PS Eye is $510, $10 more than XB1.

Second, since I've heard it come up in every forum across the web, this needs to be cleared up:

The PS4 DOES NOT have more RAM capability than the Xbox One. Period. The PS4 operating system uses up almost 4 gigs of ram. Yes, they do have a higher DDR grade ram. But it doesn't matter because Xbox One has some SRAM to make up the difference.

So, PS4 fanboys, before you rave about your "powerful" PS4, take a minute to do some research.

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#11 vpacalypse
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Ok, here goes:

First, Microsoft will NOT drop their price. They aren't going to make a PS4 clone, and that's fine with me. IT'S DONE. THE PRICE IS $500. There's too many articles and forums on the internet about unfounded rumors.

Plus, the PS4 + PS Eye is $510, $10 more than XB1.

Second, since I've heard it come up in every forum across the web, this needs to be cleared up:

The PS4 DOES NOT have more RAM capability than the Xbox One. Period. The PS4 operating system uses up almost 4 gigs of ram. Yes, they do have a higher DDR grade ram. But it doesn't matter because Xbox One has some SRAM to make up the difference.

So, PS4 fanboys, before you rave about your "powerful" PS4, take a minute to do some research.

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Dude it's all good telling other people to do research but ps4 = $399 / ps eye 2 = $59 which makes a grand total of = $458
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#14 XBNJim
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1) It's going to take some abysmal sales through February 2014 for them to seriously entertain the notion of selling a Kinectless SKU. 2) They have zero reason to drop the price because they won't even be able to keep them on the shelves.
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#15 immortality20
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Sure Microsoft is going to announce a price drop...it'll be on the 360 though.

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#16 sukraj
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With all the recent changes I wouldn't be suprised.

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I don't mind kinect i actually like it lol.

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#18 MarcRecon
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especially since Microsoft announced that you dont need the kinect plugged in , maybe sell a xbox without one for 399$ ?

rain1128

That's not gonna happen BUT if it was true it would only mean that I'd be getting the XB1 sooner then I thought!

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#19 bl00dline954
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Well, if it happens, I wonder how things would go for everyone who has already pre-ordered.

Would they contact them and ask them if they want to keep the bundle they currently have or down grade to the new bundle?
Also, if so, would changing their order/bundle affect their ETA for their pre-order?

Things like this and the possibility of screwing things up for pre-orderers might cause them to wait. 

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#20 XBNJim
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Why would they drop the price now when they are guaranteed to sell out at launch?
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#21 FoxbatAlpha
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Why would they drop the price now when they are guaranteed to sell out at launch?XBNJim
Correct. Why price drop if a sh7t ton are already sold through preorders @ $500.00? The only price drop would be on the 360 or if the offer a kinectless X1 at a lower price. They are seeming a little pissed at Sony so they might go for blood $350.00
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#22 Geminon
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I that happens, then it is game on!!!! Of course the Sony fanbots will still be screaming about the PS4 being the stronger of the two even at an even price point. I however would simply counter with the FACT that the X1 actually has these things called exclusive games at launch. All the PS4 has is Killzone and it is going to languish behind CoD Ghosts and BF4!!ShoTTyMcNaDeS
all xbox has is ryse and dead rising 3.... neither of which look very good. ps4 has killzone and knack....one of which looks pretty good atleast. not sure what you are talking about exactly.
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#23 bl00dline954
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[QUOTE="XBNJim"]Why would they drop the price now when they are guaranteed to sell out at launch?FoxbatAlpha
Correct. Why price drop if a sh7t ton are already sold through preorders @ $500.00? The only price drop would be on the 360 or if the offer a kinectless X1 at a lower price. They are seeming a little pissed at Sony so they might go for blood $350.00

Well that's what I meant as far as, if they announced a Kinnectless bundle available for release date, would they allow people who pre-ordered a bundle with the Kinnect the option to downgrade. Because I don't know about others but even though I pre-ordered the current bundle, I would downgrade since I won't use the Kinnect. But I wouldn't do it if I am going to lose my pre-order spot.
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#24 jekyll
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Because I don't know about others but even though I pre-ordered the current bundle, I would downgrade since I won't use the Kinnect.bl00dline954
You say that thinking about the feeble offerings for Kinect on the 360. With every XONE having Kinect, developers will be willing to take the time and spend the money to make awesome Kinect-only games or incorporate it into other games that might not have supported it otherwise.

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#26 nickr2d2
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[QUOTE="jekyll"]

[QUOTE="bl00dline954"]Because I don't know about others but even though I pre-ordered the current bundle, I would downgrade since I won't use the Kinnect.Geminon

You say that thinking about the feeble offerings for Kinect on the 360. With every XONE having Kinect, developers will be willing to take the time and spend the money to make awesome Kinect-only games or incorporate it into other games that might not have supported it otherwise.

no they wont, because 95% of all games will be multiplat, and the PS4 doesnt come with a spycam.... so i really doubt devs are going to waste money developing a feature only for the XB1.

... its not a spycam. It's IR blasting. And the information isn't sent anywhere (I think), but even if it was, it would just be a skewed outline of a person, and any heat-emitting object. But I get what you're saying. It's hard to dig up info on Xb1 that hasn't been smothered with Sony bias.
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#27 jekyll
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[QUOTE="jekyll"]

[QUOTE="bl00dline954"]Because I don't know about others but even though I pre-ordered the current bundle, I would downgrade since I won't use the Kinnect.Geminon

You say that thinking about the feeble offerings for Kinect on the 360. With every XONE having Kinect, developers will be willing to take the time and spend the money to make awesome Kinect-only games or incorporate it into other games that might not have supported it otherwise.

no they wont, because 95% of all games will be multiplat, and the PS4 doesnt come with a spycam.... so i really doubt devs are going to waste money developing a feature only for the XB1.

"Spycam?" Really? And who cares if it were? I'm not cooking meth or making snuff pr0n in my living room so I don't really care. If Major Nelson wants to see if I'm touching my junk between rounds of CoD, he can go ahead.