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Honestly, ten's dollar more in a year isn't a big difference - at least not to me. They'll put it to good use and continue to make Xbox Live even better. Honestly, I'm very happy with XBL, and prefer it a whole lot more than PSN.Logan1616I Agree . I mean its Still cheaper when you think about it . i mean if you play wow you spend around 156 a year just on one game at least XBL has more than gaming Videos , TV, Demos . IDC its only a 10 buck raise big deal . if it was 20 then id get a little worried but 10 is fine . just as long as they don't make a habbit and Raise it again.
I Agree . I mean its Still cheaper when you think about it . i mean if you play wow you spend around 156 a year just on one game at least XBL has more than gaming Videos , TV, Demos . IDC its only a 10 buck raise big deal . if it was 20 then id get a little worried but 10 is fine . just as long as they don't make a habbit and Raise it again.[QUOTE="Logan1616"]Honestly, ten's dollar more in a year isn't a big difference - at least not to me. They'll put it to good use and continue to make Xbox Live even better. Honestly, I'm very happy with XBL, and prefer it a whole lot more than PSN.SpArKs424
Difference is WoW's subscription goes to maintaining the servers and actually improving the game. Xbox Live goes to more advertisements, closing of development studios (Ensemble, FASA, etc.) and killing current development studios. (Rare, the developers who once brough us Donkey Kong Country, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, etc. is now a Kinect-centric developer)
[QUOTE="Zeus89x"][QUOTE="SpArKs424"]I Agree . I mean its Still cheaper when you think about it . i mean if you play wow you spend around 156 a year just on one game at least XBL has more than gaming Videos , TV, Demos . IDC its only a 10 buck raise big deal . if it was 20 then id get a little worried but 10 is fine . just as long as they don't make a habbit and Raise it again.
SLUSHiNaToR
Difference is WoW's subscription goes to maintaining the servers and actually improving the game. Xbox Live goes to more advertisements, closing of development studios (Ensemble, FASA, etc.) and killing current development studios. (Rare, the developers who once brough us Donkey Kong Country, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, etc. is now a Kinect-centric developer)
For WoW you pay for: server maintenance content patches Xbox live: pay to play online games pay to have access to other services xbox live has to offer like netflix access to demos earlier discounts on dlc a lot of people would argue that paying for xbox live is stupid cause you can play on a pc and get free online play there and the games can get much cheaper through steam and other online stores. its actually much cheaper to play wow than to play on an xbox if you actually think about it.. 60 bucks for xbl and 60 for each game you want plus any dlc for said game. if you buy xbox live and 2 games at full retail price your already over how much you'd pay to play wow for a year.. and not to be one sided or anything but WoW gets me more hooked to it than any game ive ever played on a console.. I do like xbox live don't get me wrong but saying its cheaper, is just dumb.. movies, tv shows, games, dlc.. none of that is free for the most part. It all adds up man.\
How come everyone mentions netflix, yet it is free on PSN, the Wii, and Blueray players, DVD players, and it is even being built into t.v's now.
For WoW you pay for: server maintenance content patches Xbox live: pay to play online games pay to have access to other services xbox live has to offer like netflix access to demos earlier discounts on dlc a lot of people would argue that paying for xbox live is stupid cause you can play on a pc and get free online play there and the games can get much cheaper through steam and other online stores. its actually much cheaper to play wow than to play on an xbox if you actually think about it.. 60 bucks for xbl and 60 for each game you want plus any dlc for said game. if you buy xbox live and 2 games at full retail price your already over how much you'd pay to play wow for a year.. and not to be one sided or anything but WoW gets me more hooked to it than any game ive ever played on a console.. I do like xbox live don't get me wrong but saying its cheaper, is just dumb.. movies, tv shows, games, dlc.. none of that is free for the most part. It all adds up man.[QUOTE="SLUSHiNaToR"][QUOTE="Zeus89x"]
Difference is WoW's subscription goes to maintaining the servers and actually improving the game. Xbox Live goes to more advertisements, closing of development studios (Ensemble, FASA, etc.) and killing current development studios. (Rare, the developers who once brough us Donkey Kong Country, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, etc. is now a Kinect-centric developer)
RapidTurtle
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How come everyone mentions netflix, yet it is free on PSN, the Wii, and Blueray players, DVD players, and it is even being built into t.v's now.
Netflix isn't free on PSN or Wii, you have to have a Netflix subscription still, and that isn't free. Get your facts straight.[QUOTE="RapidTurtle"][QUOTE="SLUSHiNaToR"] For WoW you pay for: server maintenance content patches Xbox live: pay to play online games pay to have access to other services xbox live has to offer like netflix access to demos earlier discounts on dlc a lot of people would argue that paying for xbox live is stupid cause you can play on a pc and get free online play there and the games can get much cheaper through steam and other online stores. its actually much cheaper to play wow than to play on an xbox if you actually think about it.. 60 bucks for xbl and 60 for each game you want plus any dlc for said game. if you buy xbox live and 2 games at full retail price your already over how much you'd pay to play wow for a year.. and not to be one sided or anything but WoW gets me more hooked to it than any game ive ever played on a console.. I do like xbox live don't get me wrong but saying its cheaper, is just dumb.. movies, tv shows, games, dlc.. none of that is free for the most part. It all adds up man. Logan1616
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How come everyone mentions netflix, yet it is free on PSN, the Wii, and Blueray players, DVD players, and it is even being built into t.v's now.
Netflix isn't free on PSN or Wii, you have to have a Netflix subscription still, and that isn't free. Get your facts straight.I have my facts straight. Everyone mentions that you are paying $60 per year for Xbox live and one of the things you are getting for that is the abilty to get netflix streaming with it. You get that abiltiy with PSN, the wii, and BR players, DVD players, your computer, and internet capable T.V.'s for FREE. You don't pay a monthly fee to Sony, Nintendo, LG, HP, or any of the other manufactures to stream on their product, except for Microsoft. Of course I know you have to pay for a Netflix subscription.
For WoW you pay for: server maintenance content patches Xbox live: pay to play online games pay to have access to other services xbox live has to offer like netflix access to demos earlier discounts on dlc a lot of people would argue that paying for xbox live is stupid cause you can play on a pc and get free online play there and the games can get much cheaper through steam and other online stores. its actually much cheaper to play wow than to play on an xbox if you actually think about it.. 60 bucks for xbl and 60 for each game you want plus any dlc for said game. if you buy xbox live and 2 games at full retail price your already over how much you'd pay to play wow for a year.. and not to be one sided or anything but WoW gets me more hooked to it than any game ive ever played on a console.. I do like xbox live don't get me wrong but saying its cheaper, is just dumb.. movies, tv shows, games, dlc.. none of that is free for the most part. It all adds up man.[QUOTE="SLUSHiNaToR"][QUOTE="Zeus89x"]
Difference is WoW's subscription goes to maintaining the servers and actually improving the game. Xbox Live goes to more advertisements, closing of development studios (Ensemble, FASA, etc.) and killing current development studios. (Rare, the developers who once brough us Donkey Kong Country, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, etc. is now a Kinect-centric developer)
RapidTurtle
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How come everyone mentions netflix, yet it is free on PSN, the Wii, and Blueray players, DVD players, and it is even being built into t.v's now.
His argument isn't in favor of XBL.
Not that I am happy about a price increase. Lord knows I bashed it all week but one of the reasons is ESPN3. Another is the Kinect hub for the dashboard. Still even yet one more reason is the next update is going to improve the online communications.
Announced 8/26/10
They're adding a bunch of new features, so it's the most logical time for Microsoft to do what they've been wanting to do for ages.
Does it make any of you angry enough to stop paying? That's what I thought.
They're adding a bunch of new features, so it's the most logical time for Microsoft to do what they've been wanting to do for ages.
Does it make any of you angry enough to stop paying? That's what I thought.
Phoenix534
Doesn't mean it's alright.
..the lengths people go to to defend a company who doesn't even know they exist,
They're adding a bunch of new features, so it's the most logical time for Microsoft to do what they've been wanting to do for ages.
Does it make any of you angry enough to stop paying? That's what I thought.
Phoenix534
I'm seriously considering defecting over to the PS3, as I am tired of paying to play online. I've been on Xbox live since the begining, so I figure I have spent over $400 on live. Between the fee, and my 360 making some loud noises, and getting quite a few disc read errors lately, I think it might be time to stop forking my $$$ over to M$, and give the PS3 a shot. I just hope I can live without ESPN3, Facebook, Netflix, Twitter, and Last F.M.
Why did Microsoft raise prices for XBOX Live Gold? It used to be fifty dollars and now its sixty. What gives?!Urnotwirthyi bought mine for $30 fat discount :P it's okay if they want to raise their price, we just need to look for good price instead of paying full price. like $60?
Honestly, ten's dollar more in a year isn't a big difference - at least not to me. They'll put it to good use and continue to make Xbox Live even better. Honestly, I'm very happy with XBL, and prefer it a whole lot more than PSN.Logan1616Completely agree. $10 isn't a big difference.
who knows why they decided to raise prices but it doesn't really matter to me anyway. i thought $50 for a year's worth of service was highway robbery IMO
I don't understand why they only raised the proce of 1 month, not 1 year. the people subscirbed and paying every month were already paying twice as much as those who got it anually
They raise these prices not for "updating the service" but to just pull more money out of our pockets. The XBL user-base is so large, the gain of this price hike is still going to exceed the loss for people not willing to pay for it. They know they can get away with it and still make money.
Think about it, we get NOTHING for free anymore on XBL. NOTHING. Every single item worth a crap on XBL they charge you and prices are slowly going up. How many games are being released at the 400 MSP price point now? Just a handful a year? Everything is now 800-1200 MSP now.
They are just testing the waters, watching what we pay for, then slowly raising the prices to accomidate the trend. Just look at oil and cable companies.
I mean we are going to be paying $60 a year for a "service", paying $60 for every game, $15 for arcade games, and $5 for digital avatar clothing. It's insane how much of a mega cash flow for MS this has become, and they know it. It low cost, high yeild crap they make the money off of.
This corporation isn't about the gamers, its bout the bottom line. You guys seem to forget the only reason why MS even got into the gaming market was to prevent Sony from possibly being a threat to them in the PC market at all costs, even if they took a loss.
They never were here for us, they are there for the shareholders.
They raise these prices not for "updating the service" but to just pull more money out of our pockets. The XBL user-base is so large, the gain of this price hike is still going to exceed the loss for people not willing to pay for it. They know they can get away with it and still make money.
Think about it, we get NOTHING for free anymore on XBL. NOTHING. Every single item worth a crap on XBL they charge you and prices are slowly going up. How many games are being released at the 400 MSP price point now? Just a handful a year? Everything is now 800-1200 MSP now.
They are just testing the waters, watching what we pay for, then slowly raising the prices to accomidate the trend. Just look at oil and cable companies.
I mean we are going to be paying $60 a year for a "service", paying $60 for every game, $15 for arcade games, and $5 for digital avatar clothing. It's insane how much of a mega cash flow for MS this has become, and they know it. It low cost, high yeild crap they make the money off of.
This corporation isn't about the gamers, its bout the bottom line. You guys seem to forget the only reason why MS even got into the gaming market was to prevent Sony from possibly being a threat to them in the PC market at all costs, even if they took a loss.
They never were here for us, they are there for the shareholders.
OneBadLT123
well said. it has nothing to do with last fm, facebook, netflix...etc
They're adding a bunch of new features, so it's the most logical time for Microsoft to do what they've been wanting to do for ages.
Does it make any of you angry enough to stop paying? That's what I thought.
Annoyingly those features are often exclusive to the U.S - Is the price increase happening in every country? Also - they're expanding into Russia etc. in Oct/Nov so maybe an increased fee will be used to maintain a larger server...to me i dont understand why people dont just surf the web for deals on xbox live. In the 4 years ive had it ive gotten year subs for 30 to 40 bucks each time.There on sale all the time
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How come everyone mentions netflix, yet it is free on PSN, the Wii, and Blueray players, DVD players, and it is even being built into t.v's now.
Netflix isn't free on PSN or Wii, you have to have a Netflix subscription still, and that isn't free. Get your facts straight.I have my facts straight. Everyone mentions that you are paying $60 per year for Xbox live and one of the things you are getting for that is the abilty to get netflix streaming with it. You get that abiltiy with PSN, the wii, and BR players, DVD players, your computer, and internet capable T.V.'s for FREE. You don't pay a monthly fee to Sony, Nintendo, LG, HP, or any of the other manufactures to stream on their product, except for Microsoft. Of course I know you have to pay for a Netflix subscription.
its because you have to pay for XBL vs the other services OBVIOUSLY, now stop trollingto me i dont understand why people dont just surf the web for deals on xbox live. In the 4 years ive had it ive gotten year subs for 30 to 40 bucks each time.There on sale all the time
greenballer
I agree. I never paid full price. only $30. but the point is why are they increasing. The price hike could possible mean no more $30-$40 sales. $50 might be the new sale price...we'll see
They're adding a bunch of new features, so it's the most logical time for Microsoft to do what they've been wanting to do for ages.
Does it make any of you angry enough to stop paying? That's what I thought.
Annoyingly those features are often exclusive to the U.S - Is the price increase happening in every country? Also - they're expanding into Russia etc. in Oct/Nov so maybe an increased fee will be used to maintain a larger server... only in U.S and EU. everywhere else is exempt fromt eh price hike at this point in time...[QUOTE="RapidTurtle"][QUOTE="Logan1616"] Netflix isn't free on PSN or Wii, you have to have a Netflix subscription still, and that isn't free. Get your facts straight.slvrraven9
I have my facts straight. Everyone mentions that you are paying $60 per year for Xbox live and one of the things you are getting for that is the abilty to get netflix streaming with it. You get that abiltiy with PSN, the wii, and BR players, DVD players, your computer, and internet capable T.V.'s for FREE. You don't pay a monthly fee to Sony, Nintendo, LG, HP, or any of the other manufactures to stream on their product, except for Microsoft. Of course I know you have to pay for a Netflix subscription.
its because you have to pay for XBL vs the other services OBVIOUSLY, now stop trollingBecause you have to pay for XBL vs the other services? What the hell does that mean?
When I first heard about the increase it pisd me off. However now that I've had time to think about it, I guess it doesn't bother me as much. Really it's the first increase since Live has been around and lord knows they've added a lot of features. It doesn't hurt that Time Warner has finally agreed with ESPN to carry ESPN3, so that will be a nice feature built in.
It also doesn't hurt that I just picked up 2 -12 month Live Gold cards for $29.99 each at a local electronics store here today. I'm good for 2 more years. :)
I still think Microsoft should have lowered the price not raised it. It's going to cost them some customers for sure. Not a really smart business decision in my opinion, but hey Steve Balmer never asked me first.
How dare you say that! Wash out your tongue friend! :P. No seriously though as valid as this sounds, Microsoft do care about their customers, i received a free copy of Alan Wake when i bought the Xbox 360 Slim on the first day it came out (was the first to buy it). The guy was from the Microsoft AU group, see they do care :D.They raise these prices not for "updating the service" but to just pull more money out of our pockets. The XBL user-base is so large, the gain of this price hike is still going to exceed the loss for people not willing to pay for it. They know they can get away with it and still make money.
Think about it, we get NOTHING for free anymore on XBL. NOTHING. Every single item worth a crap on XBL they charge you and prices are slowly going up. How many games are being released at the 400 MSP price point now? Just a handful a year? Everything is now 800-1200 MSP now.
They are just testing the waters, watching what we pay for, then slowly raising the prices to accomidate the trend. Just look at oil and cable companies.
I mean we are going to be paying $60 a year for a "service", paying $60 for every game, $15 for arcade games, and $5 for digital avatar clothing. It's insane how much of a mega cash flow for MS this has become, and they know it. It low cost, high yeild crap they make the money off of.
This corporation isn't about the gamers, its bout the bottom line. You guys seem to forget the only reason why MS even got into the gaming market was to prevent Sony from possibly being a threat to them in the PC market at all costs, even if they took a loss.
They never were here for us, they are there for the shareholders.
OneBadLT123
But yes i don't mind paying extra for such an awesome service. And Australia didn't get a rise on Xbox Live prices, which is all good.
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