RARE was a huge waste of money for Microsoft. Discuss.

Microsoft bought Nintendo's controlling share of RARE about 5 years ago for a rumored 250 million (can't remember if it was £ or $).I used to be a Nintendo fan boy until Wii and thought it was a huge mistake by Nintendo as they had produced amazing games for N64.

But what have they really done recently. Sure they make nice games but they aren't exactly killer aps which sell the console.

Any thoughts?

Viva Pinata!chaoz-king

That's my thought.

perfect dark zero was awesome!!!!! well... nevermind.

but seriously isn't the new banjo kazooie game supposed to be good?

perfect dark zero was awesome!!!!! well... nevermind.

but seriously isn't the new banjo kazooie game supposed to be good?

dcap8424

It's an iffy, they changed the gamplay by adding vehicles. I hope it has the same humor, and platform style as the original.

perfect dark zero was awesome!!!!! well... nevermind.

but seriously isn't the new banjo kazooie game supposed to be good?

dcap8424

It's party time!

Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (woo-hoo!)Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (don't beat 'em, join 'em!)

Welcome to picturesque Pinata Island. In its many gardens all matter of pinatas live, dance, and dream that one day, they will be chosen to entertain at a party as only pinatas can. Well, most pinatas that is... Oh fudge!

Shake it, shake it, shake it, like a party animalBreak it, break it, break it, like a party animalShake it, shake it, shake it, like a party animalBreak it, break it, break it, break it, break it, break it, break it!

Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (woo-hoo!)Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em

Viva Piñata!Sc07iaFr34k

I'm assuminng that was from the Party Animals game?

I'm assuminng that was from the Party Animals game?dukebd699

Not sure if it's in the party game, but its in Viva Pinata (1)

[QUOTE="Sc07iaFr34k"] It's party time!

Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (woo-hoo!)Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (don't beat 'em, join 'em!)

Welcome to picturesque Pinata Island. In its many gardens all matter of pinatas live, dance, and dream that one day, they will be chosen to entertain at a party as only pinatas can. Well, most pinatas that is... Oh fudge!

Shake it, shake it, shake it, like a party animalBreak it, break it, break it, like a party animalShake it, shake it, shake it, like a party animalBreak it, break it, break it, break it, break it, break it, break it!

Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (woo-hoo!)Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em

Viva Piñata!dukebd699

I'm assuminng that was from the Party Animals game?

I hope he made that up :?

Why do you care if the games sell consoles? Do you buy games just because they sell consoles or because you enjoy them ? Sure Rare's games may not push consoles, but they are what games are supposed to be and that is fun. demon565

Ok, ok. I'm ot saying they're a rubbish company, I'm just saying that they used to be making cutting edge games. And now they make nice games, like Viva Pinata which I have because it came with a bundle. It's an ok game, but it's not pushing the boundaries like they used to. And the price that MS paid was some kind of record (at the time at least). So I'm just thinking that mayybe Microsoft regret their decision. Maybe. A little.

I hope he made that up :?

Juggernaut140

O noez, i'z cereal. I has coppy n paze skrillz

[QUOTE="dukebd699"][QUOTE="Sc07iaFr34k"] It's party time!

Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (woo-hoo!)Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (don't beat 'em, join 'em!)

Welcome to picturesque Pinata Island. In its many gardens all matter of pinatas live, dance, and dream that one day, they will be chosen to entertain at a party as only pinatas can. Well, most pinatas that is... Oh fudge!

Shake it, shake it, shake it, like a party animalBreak it, break it, break it, like a party animalShake it, shake it, shake it, like a party animalBreak it, break it, break it, break it, break it, break it, break it!

Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (woo-hoo!)Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em

Viva Piñata!Juggernaut140

I'm assuminng that was from the Party Animals game?

I hope he made that up :?

Its the opening lyrics to the Viva Pinata show.

[QUOTE="dukebd699"][QUOTE="Sc07iaFr34k"] It's party time!

Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (woo-hoo!)Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (don't beat 'em, join 'em!)

Welcome to picturesque Pinata Island. In its many gardens all matter of pinatas live, dance, and dream that one day, they will be chosen to entertain at a party as only pinatas can. Well, most pinatas that is... Oh fudge!

Shake it, shake it, shake it, like a party animalBreak it, break it, break it, like a party animalShake it, shake it, shake it, like a party animalBreak it, break it, break it, break it, break it, break it, break it!

Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (woo-hoo!)Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em

Viva Piñata!Juggernaut140

I'm assuminng that was from the Party Animals game?

I hope he made that up :?

So was I then I saw this

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]

I hope he made that up :?

Sc07iaFr34k

O noez, i'z cereal. I has coppy n paze skrillz

Its the opening lyrics to the Viva Pinata show.

gustavog117

And the game. Wish it had a different theme though... :(

MS paid $377 million for Rare.

No it's not a waste of money. viva pinata, banjo kazooie, and perfect dark. For the other guy who thought rare was a waste of money for the orignal xbox-nintendo still owned rare.

[QUOTE="dukebd699"][QUOTE="Sc07iaFr34k"] It's party time!

Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (woo-hoo!)Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (don't beat 'em, join 'em!)

Welcome to picturesque Pinata Island. In its many gardens all matter of pinatas live, dance, and dream that one day, they will be chosen to entertain at a party as only pinatas can. Well, most pinatas that is... Oh fudge!

Shake it, shake it, shake it, like a party animalBreak it, break it, break it, like a party animalShake it, shake it, shake it, like a party animalBreak it, break it, break it, break it, break it, break it, break it!

Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em (woo-hoo!)Viva PiñataFilled with fun (filled with fun!)Viva PiñataDon't beat 'em, join 'em

Viva Piñata!Juggernaut140

I'm assuminng that was from the Party Animals game?

I hope he made that up :?

[QUOTE="dcap8424"]

perfect dark zero was awesome!!!!! well... nevermind.

but seriously isn't the new banjo kazooie game supposed to be good?

ag1002

That's funny and true!

I'm looking foreward to the new Banjo game. It's supposed to be released for the low price of 40 bucks instead of 60.

Umm Viva Pinata, Kameo, and Banjo Kazooie coming out.gustavog117

Rare was awesome and is still awesome...

Kameo was fantastic and still one of the best looking games on any console.

I wasnt a huge fan of Viva Pinata, but Kameo and PDZ where pretty fun and great looking games.

Not to mention the new Banjoo game looks amazing.

Banjo kazooie: Nuts and Bolts is sure to sell lots of copies.

Anyone who played the N64 versions of banjo kazooie should buy this one.

Even though a lot of 360 fanboys are going to start flaming me here in just a second, I'm going to go ahead and state that I think that Nintendo should've done it's best to keep Rare. Why? The only Rare games that appeal to me were classics like Donkey Kong Country (the first one), Banjo Kazooie, etc. (basically, almost everything they've produced on the Nintendo consoles) They also made Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, and Conker's Bad Fur Day for the N64 very high quality games, but once Rare got sold to Microsoft, everyting that Rare was well known for went down the drain. And you can also notice that Conker Live and Reloaded was a remake Bad Fur Day, with better graphics and *shudders* censorship. It's like, Microsoft is giving them a bad influence or something.

I don't know really what to say, back when Rare was with Nintendo, they were untouchable when it came to developing quality games, but Microsoft gave Rare a bad rep once they got sold to them (Microsoft).

Even though a lot of 360 fanboys are going to start flaming me here in just a second, I'm going to go ahead and state that I think that Nintendo should've done it's best to keep Rare. Why? The only Rare games that appeal to me were classics like Donkey Kong Country (the first one), Banjo Kazooie, etc. (basically, almost everything they've produced on the Nintendo consoles) They also made Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, and Conker's Bad Fur Day for the N64 very high quality games, but once Rare got sold to Microsoft, everyting that Rare was well known for went down the drain. And you can also notice that Conker Live and Reloaded was a remake Bad Fur Day, with better graphics and *shudders* censorship. It's like, Microsoft is giving them a bad influence or something.

I don't know really what to say, back when Rare was with Nintendo, they were untouchable when it came to developing quality games, but Microsoft gave Rare a bad rep once they got sold to them (Microsoft).

Disturbed_King

This is what I mean. On N64 they were considered one of the top developers on ANY console and now they seem to have lost their edge. Maybe it's just that there are more excellent developers these days.

I dunno. They're really trying to embrace them, but they've kind of failed with everything besides Viva Pinata. But they really do try with them, and this time, they're coming out with TWO killer-apps. I think they're going to do something good with them soon.

Even though a lot of 360 fanboys are going to start flaming me here in just a second, I'm going to go ahead and state that I think that Nintendo should've done it's best to keep Rare. Why? The only Rare games that appeal to me were classics like Donkey Kong Country (the first one), Banjo Kazooie, etc. (basically, almost everything they've produced on the Nintendo consoles) They also made Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, and Conker's Bad Fur Day for the N64 very high quality games, but once Rare got sold to Microsoft, everyting that Rare was well known for went down the drain. And you can also notice that Conker Live and Reloaded was a remake Bad Fur Day, with better graphics and *shudders* censorship. It's like, Microsoft is giving them a bad influence or something.

I don't know really what to say, back when Rare was with Nintendo, they were untouchable when it came to developing quality games, but Microsoft gave Rare a bad rep once they got sold to them (Microsoft).

Disturbed_King

even if people thought the game are/will be good, rare is is not bringing any money to the table for m$

Was in Game yesterday (buying Call of Duty 4, at last) and i dunno if you've been in one of these, but they have their own radio station kinda thing over the PA. Anyway, they said that RARE are releasing a new controller to coincide with Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts. The controller will be MOTION SENSITIVE, and you will be able to use it to MIMIC THE USE OF A SPANNER (or ratchet or whatever it is in US) in the game.

It's all a bit Wii and stinks of gimicky desperation.

[QUOTE="Disturbed_King"]

Even though a lot of 360 fanboys are going to start flaming me here in just a second, I'm going to go ahead and state that I think that Nintendo should've done it's best to keep Rare. Why? The only Rare games that appeal to me were classics like Donkey Kong Country (the first one), Banjo Kazooie, etc. (basically, almost everything they've produced on the Nintendo consoles) They also made Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, and Conker's Bad Fur Day for the N64 very high quality games, but once Rare got sold to Microsoft, everyting that Rare was well known for went down the drain. And you can also notice that Conker Live and Reloaded was a remake Bad Fur Day, with better graphics and *shudders* censorship. It's like, Microsoft is giving them a bad influence or something.

I don't know really what to say, back when Rare was with Nintendo, they were untouchable when it came to developing quality games, but Microsoft gave Rare a bad rep once they got sold to them (Microsoft).

ralphy12345

This is what I mean. On N64 they were considered one of the top developers on ANY console and now they seem to have lost their edge. Maybe it's just that there are more excellent developers these days.

yar. Perfect Dark N64 was awesome. All they had to do was update the graphics and make it online enabled and I would have bought it for the 360. I bought PDZ and wished I hadn't. I believe that a few of the developers that made Rare into a big name on the N64 left the company a few years ago, which would explain a change in direction/quality of their games. Not sure if this is true, but would make sense, eh?phalasu

Even though a lot of 360 fanboys are going to start flaming me here in just a second, I'm going to go ahead and state that I think that Nintendo should've done it's best to keep Rare. Why? The only Rare games that appeal to me were classics like Donkey Kong Country (the first one), Banjo Kazooie, etc. (basically, almost everything they've produced on the Nintendo consoles) They also made Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, and Conker's Bad Fur Day for the N64 very high quality games, but once Rare got sold to Microsoft, everyting that Rare was well known for went down the drain. And you can also notice that Conker Live and Reloaded was a remake Bad Fur Day, with better graphics and *shudders* censorship. It's like, Microsoft is giving them a bad influence or something.

I don't know really what to say, back when Rare was with Nintendo, they were untouchable when it came to developing quality games, but Microsoft gave Rare a bad rep once they got sold to them (Microsoft).

Disturbed_King

I also think that Nintendo should have kept rare, because Donkey Kong is Rare and Microsoft isn't making any new Donkey Kong games. If nintendo had kept it they would have made another DK game by now.

But, I do think that microsoft will do a good job on the new Banjo game.

I also just saw on E3 that the original banjo will come to the xbox live arcade.

So overall no, I didn't find it a waste of money for microsoft, but I still think Nintendo would have done better with Rare.