So why is it popular.......

With every popular game there are going to be the ones who hate it. Some hate it because it's just not the game for them and some hate it solely because it's a popular game. Believe it or not but there are some people out there who don't like popular things and tend to disassociate themselves from it.

I like Halo, but I personally feel that all 3 games are overrated and made out to be something that their just not. But they are good fun.

while cod4 isn't exactly my cup of tea, i would say it's garbage. i'v played it and it is a good game, but it's not genre changing either, and it realy is just more of the same, just like halo 3, more of the same. personally i don't see why anyone has to bash either game, if you like it great, if you don't then great, go play somthing els. personally i got exactly what i wanted out of halo 3 and nothing less, so i was happy, and thats the end of my argument other then the fact that you shouldn't say somthing is totaly garbage just caus you don't like it; there is a difference between not liking somthing and not having any respect, and from what i'v knoticed amongst gamers is that even when they do like somthing, they still have no respect or appreciation for the work that goes into making these things.

It's not because it's a popular game, it's simply because it's an overrated game. How overrated varies from person to person. I wouldn't have rated it any higher than a 7 myself. And that's being generous.Staryoshi87

A 7 is a bit harsh.

i just think its a solid title, it should be played by anyone who appreciates fps, i used to not want to give in to the hype, but some games actually match it & succeed itsteveslugga

i personally try not to pay attention to the hype, caus when it comes to games, and some movies *cough*spiderman3*cough* they just over do it. there is no way a game like halo, or gears or even crysis can ever live up tp the mount of hype the publishers genertate for these games. realy they just need to calm down and take a chill pill.

I don't hate Halo 3, but I don't love it.

I will say that Halo 2's ending left me with a bitter taste in my mouth.

But the problem is that when Bungie released the original Halo on Xbox, it raised the bar for CONSOLE (NOT PC... Don't flame b/c you can't read right) first-person-shooters.

Up until Halo and the Xbox came out, I remember myself and all of my friends still resorting to Perfect Dark (N64) for a good single or multiplayer FPS, even with the PS2 already out there for a while.

Halo raised the bar for console FPS with not only its single player and co-op modes, but especially its multiplayer and online modes. It was what other past FPS had wished they were. It changed it up. It breathed life into the FPS genre in the CONSOLE arena... and proved that FPS's on the console could hang with those on the PC.

The problem is that the next two games in the series failed to do what the original had suceeded at.

Sure, when Halo 2 came out, the story had to continue, and there was only so much that technology would allow for with the existing Xbox. But it didn't really bring much of anything new to the table.

With Halo 3, sure it's still going to be great online because so many people play it, and let's face it... Halo 1,2,3 are all fun to play online... but with Halo 3, Bungie didn't up the ante. It's almost like Halo 1 and 2 from the Xbox in higher resolution with only SLIGHTLY better graphics. This, to me and others, is unacceptable... especially after having to delay the game which was speculated to come out much sooner than it did, and after so much hype.

With Halo 3, it's almost like Bungie said, ok we'll make it higher resolution, improve the graphics a little bit and make some more levels and sit back and watch it sell because it's a Halo game and it's going to sell. They didn't bring anything new, or innovative to the table, and they sure as hell didn't make it as memorable of a gaming experience as the original.

Good enough for ya?

[QUOTE="steveslugga"]i just think its a solid title, it should be played by anyone who appreciates fps, i used to not want to give in to the hype, but some games actually match it & succeed itwreak

i personally try not to pay attention to the hype, caus when it comes to games, and some movies *cough*spiderman3*cough* they just over do it. there is no way a game like halo, or gears or even crysis can ever live up tp the mount of hype the publishers genertate for these games. realy they just need to calm down and take a chill pill.

To bash Halo 3 now? It seems like everyone on these forums has someting against Halo . I will be the first guy to admit that it wasnt amazing (9.5!? jeff, jeff, jeff)but it does what halo 2 did better then it did, so I do not see any point in bashing it. Was everyone disapointed by it? If so why are there 500,000 plus people on at any given time? IDK it just seems to me like everyone bashes halo for not being the be all end all game but they praise complete garbage like COD 4........

PyroPice

are you serious?.....you call cod4 garbage? lol....what is wrong with you.....cod4 is so much better than halo 3

[QUOTE="PyroPice"]To bash Halo 3 now? It seems like everyone on these forums has someting against Halo . I will be the first guy to admit that it wasnt amazing (9.5!? jeff, jeff, jeff)but it does what halo 2 did better then it did, so I do not see any point in bashing it. Was everyone disapointed by it? If so why are there 500,000 plus people on at any given time? IDK it just seems to me like everyone bashes halo for not being the be all end all game but they praise complete garbage like COD 4........

OfficialBed

are you serious?.....you call cod4 garbage? lol....what is wrong with you.....cod4 is so much better than halo 3

it's a good game, especially online. it's alright by yourself but u'll tend to get bored if your alone. the real fun is with friends, those competetive matches bring so much tense that your relieved when you get the last winning kill, and just wait to see wut the next match brings around. i liked COD4, but i believe it's way too easy to die, thats just me, i like havin the chance to at least look at the person before im killed with 1 or 2 shots, kinda like SWAT in halo, never really was into it. ppl tend to hide in a corner and wait to just pick off people. BR battles are the best, tests ur accuracy.

i might be too positive here, but i think halo 3 is one of the, if not, the funnest MP game when u have some friends whitchu

[QUOTE="steveslugga"]i just think its a solid title, it should be played by anyone who appreciates fps, i used to not want to give in to the hype, but some games actually match it & succeed itwreak

i personally try not to pay attention to the hype, caus when it comes to games, and some movies *cough*spiderman3*cough* they just over do it. there is no way a game like halo, or gears or even crysis can ever live up tp the mount of hype the publishers genertate for these games. realy they just need to calm down and take a chill pill.

It is popular to bash the hell out of Halo 3 because the game isn't nearly as good as it is cracked out to be.

It isn't a bad game, but it's nowhere close to the 9-10 range of scores that it is being given.

I personally find the game to lack depth. A little too much run and gun for my liking. Not that run and gun FPS are bad...I just find Halo to be really SLOW...When you jump, you float in the air for like 5 seconds...It just doesn't cut it for me.

If I'm going to run and gun, then give me something fast and brutal like Unreal Tournament.

I personally love Call of Duty 4. I never played any of the other games in the series, and I'm glad I got on board for this game. First off, the campaign is GREAT...It is intense, the AI is smart, the squad mechanics are top notch, and the graphics are WAY BETTER than Halo. The online multiplayer also has some cool features like allowing a player to call in air support after they notch a couple of kills in a row. Finally, the game has RPG elements that encourage the player to play more. You unlock all sorts of weapons and abilities as you play more and get better.

The first Halo was one of my favorite games ever. I spent so many hours playing co-op, hosting LAN parties...oh man...those were the days...Halo 3 just doesn't give me that magic feeling that the first Halo did. The first Halo also had an awesome campaign and storyline. I just lost interest in the Halo story after Halo 2 came out. I have Halo 3 right now. My friend loaned it to me. I don't feel very compelled to beat the campaign. Simply put, I think I've played better shooters.

And it's easy to rip on Halo 3 because there are a bunch of REALLY GOOD SHOOTERS on the 360. It's not a bad game.

I'd give it an 8.5. That makes it a very good game. Nothing more, nothing less.

while cod4 isn't exactly my cup of tea, i would say it's garbage. i'v played it and it is a good game, but it's not genre changing either, and it realy is just more of the same, just like halo 3, more of the same. personally i don't see why anyone has to bash either game, if you like it great, if you don't then great, go play somthing els. personally i got exactly what i wanted out of halo 3 and nothing less, so i was happy, and thats the end of my argument other then the fact that you shouldn't say somthing is totaly garbage just caus you don't like it; there is a difference between not liking somthing and not having any respect, and from what i'v knoticed amongst gamers is that even when they do like somthing, they still have no respect or appreciation for the work that goes into making these things.

wreak

I didnt mean to Bash COD4, its just that every review is calling it the "best online multiplayer ever" and that aggravates me because its basically CS with COD2 MP........

My analysis of best bits in the halo trilogy in short

What Halo revolutionised...

Halo 1 - Strong single player game and story

Halo 2 - Strong multiplayer game (built on story, kinda messed it up)

Halo 3 - Strong community implimentation (built on multiplayer. More tweaking than anything else)

Personaly if i wasnt following halo 3 24/7 and listening to the hype it would probably have been a much greater expirience

Halo 3 should be GOTY. Why? Because that $#!t is fun as hell. I mean c'mon, they ended the epic trilogy with enough room to leave another epic trilogy in place while simultaneously giving tthe player closure. Improved graphics that are beatiful. The SP is fun especially with 3 other people to kick ass with, MP is Fantastic once again, and there are new weps, vehicles, and coolness is outstanding. They've always had the deepest MP match customization, and awesome match types, and heck they even added more and a camera to record your coolest moments in SP to edit. Why do ppl bash it? Because stupid editors set Bungies goals too high. Its hard as Hell to make a video game let alone one that has a reputation to uphold as Best MP in years. Bungie wanted to make a delay to perfect their game, but hell no fan boys wanted it now, and they released the game. It still owns but according to fan boys and I quote "It just didn't live up to the hype man, I've seen better".

And COD4 is fun too, but not better than Halo because everyone in MP is like a friggin beast and its too easy to die, and I'm not a noob but COD4 may have discovered a new noob combo

It's not a bad game, however I laugh my head off when I see the lengths that Microsoft have gone to promote this game. I live on QLD Australia, and in my small neighbourhood there is a friggin 50ft billboard advertising Halo 3, as well as atleast 3 more that others have told me about. Whats annoying is that it's all hyping up a game that doesn't exactly deserve it.1nverted

lol at 50 ft.Billboard. And ur right it gets hype it doesn't deserve, but it still is a awesome game, better than all the other ones.......except maybe Mass Effect

It's because there was so much hype surrounding this game that when it didn't deliver to expectations it left everyone kinda down. Just like Assassins Creed/Mass Effect, personally I like Assassins Creed, but Halo 3.. meh, Mediocre at best but then again I never really like the Halo Franchise I just played the last one to get it over with. The game didn't add anything new and wasn't pretty =/. It's basically an upscaled Halo 2.

And who wants that?

I just think it's cause of it's marketing campaign. It was built to be so epic and crap, and when you play it, it seems so mediocre and cartoony to me. THAT'S MY OPINION! It's not a bad game, it's just not amazing. Gears of War is 5x better than Halo 3 in my opinion. I wonder if Gears 2 will see the same marketing campaign as Halo 3 did.

By the way, also people want to bash it cause it shadows the industry. It shadows all other games, but it's overrated.

Halo 3 should be GOTY...

Improved graphics that are beatiful....

MP is Fantastic once again, and there are new weps, vehicles, and coolness is outstanding....

Why do ppl bash it?

And COD4 is fun too, but not better than Halo because everyone in MP is like a friggin beast and its too easy to die

MassEfectivator

All of this comes from someone with the Master Chief as their board icon...

Halo 3 will NOT win game of the year... It's more of the same we saw from the first two series with only a few new weapons and vehicles. It DID NOT INNOVATE. It DID NOT BRING ANYTHING NEW TO THE TABLE. That's what the original Halo did and that's why it won GOTY, and Halo 2 didn't and Halo 3 won't.

Improved graphics is right... Next generation graphics? I DON'T THINK SO. Let's face it, Halo 3 is Halo 2's graphics in higher resolution.

MP is good, but still more of the same. And there are not enough new weapons or vehicles or modes that can cover that fact up.

Why do people bash it? Why don't you stop to read other people's posts? Go check out my first post on this topic... I dare you to combat that argument...

And maybe the problem with you and COD4 online is... well... you.

[QUOTE="MassEfectivator"]

Halo 3 should be GOTY...

Improved graphics that are beatiful....

MP is Fantastic once again, and there are new weps, vehicles, and coolness is outstanding....

Why do ppl bash it?

And COD4 is fun too, but not better than Halo because everyone in MP is like a friggin beast and its too easy to die

cjbroom

All of this comes from someone with the Master Chief as their board icon...

Halo 3 will NOT win game of the year... It's more of the same we saw from the first two series with only a few new weapons and vehicles. It DID NOT INNOVATE. It DID NOT BRING ANYTHING NEW TO THE TABLE. That's what the original Halo did and that's why it won GOTY, and Halo 2 didn't and Halo 3 won't.

Improved graphics is right... Next generation graphics? I DON'T THINK SO. Let's face it, Halo 3 is Halo 2's graphics in higher resolution.

MP is good, but still more of the same. And there are not enough new weapons or vehicles or modes that can cover that fact up.

Why do people bash it? Why don't you stop to read other people's posts? Go check out my first post on this topic... I dare you to combat that argument...

And maybe the problem with you and COD4 online is... well... you.

9 times out of 10 when someone defends Halo 3, with that as their icon, the other person uses it in the arguement.

And no I can't argue with ur other argument because u used one of the funnest games of all time (Damn you)

But I think you misunderstand me with that graphics thing. I meant the ENVIORMENTS. They look cool. Character models are still crap, but you have to give the first level props at least.

And that one pistol thing was weapons enough for me

9 times out of 10 when someone defends Halo 3, with that as their icon, the other person uses it in the arguement.

And no I can't argue with ur other argument because u used one of the funnest games of all time (Damn you)

But I think you misunderstand me with that graphics thing. I meant the ENVIORMENTS. They look cool. Character models are still crap, but you have to give the first level props at least.

And that one pistol thing was weapons enough for me

MassEfectivator

Sorry for the cheap shot on the icon thing...

Anyway I think that most people are upset by Halo 3 for the reasons I listed in my first post... The main point of it being that it didn't revolutionize, it didn't innovate.. It just didn't bring anything new or unseen to the table like the original did, and that was a huge let down to a lot of people given a new next-gen console. Yeah the environments are pretty but... c'mon like you said the character models are crap. It looks like they took the models from Halo 2 and just imported them to Halo 3. There's no excuse for that in my opinion.

One thing we can be sure of is that Halo 3 is not the last in the Halo series... sorry if you haven't beaten it and I ruined the surprise... But this time around Bungie better knock us on our ass with something great... something better than the original Halo.

I think it's the fact that the Halo franchise has never been an exceptional one. Granted the multiplayer is a lot of fun, but there are better FPS games out there. Gameplay, graphics, story, sound effectsare not the best we've seen in video games. I've played tons of games more fun than Halo 1, 2, or 3's single player campaign. It's kind of like with the Lord of the Rings movies. I think it's an okay trilogybut no where near deserving of the praise and hype it gets.Greatest movie trilogy ever my ass. Just like the colossal hype the Halo games receives. greeneye59

Exactly. Standards are not set by Bungie, but a overwhelming crowd that wants something that I doubt the Xbox 1080 can produce (lols I said Xbox 1080

maybe because it did not live up to the massive hype that made the game seem better than it was?

maybe because cod4 is a better shooter than halo 3?

It's not because it's a popular game, it's simply because it's an overrated game. How overrated varies from person to person. I wouldn't have rated it any higher than a 7 myself. And that's being generous.Staryoshi87

Are you out of your mind? 7? So what games would you rate around the 9 mark then?

Pfff...

With every popular game there are going to be the ones who hate it. Some hate it because it's just not the game for them and some hate it solely because it's a popular game. Believe it or not but there are some people out there who don't like popular things and tend to disassociate themselves from it.

I like Halo, but I personally feel that all 3 games are overrated and made out to be something that their just not. But they are good fun.

PlasmaBeam44

Yep. I hate to generalize, but these are also the type of people who strive to be "unique." I'm not talking in the good sense, either.

Here is a simple answer to your question:

1. Most people that ever complained about halo, are people that are bad at it...

2. People that are jealous that its not on their console...

3. People that do not play the SP on legendary (any other difficulty is not worth playing)...

4. ...or simply young guys who have nothing better to do then waster their time whining on forums...

But I think you misunderstand me with that graphics thing. I meant the ENVIORMENTS. They look cool.

MassEfectivator

Well, you have to admit, environment in CoD4 looks way better and higher-detailed than in Halo 3. Environments in Halo 3 are huge, but not that cool.

I think it's the fact that the Halo franchise has never been an exceptional one. Granted the multiplayer is a lot of fun, but there are better FPS games out there. Gameplay, graphics, story, sound effectsare not the best we've seen in video games. I've played tons of games more fun than Halo 1, 2, or 3's single player campaign. It's kind of like with the Lord of the Rings movies. I think it's an okay trilogybut no where near deserving of the praise and hype it gets.Greatest movie trilogy ever my ass. Just like the colossal hype the Halo games receives. greeneye59

How is that a fact? Your post is one long opinion after the next.

I personally think Halo 1 is an "exceptional one." I absolutely loved that game when it first came out. It's by far one of (if not, THE) best console FPS of its time.

I also disagree with you on the LOTR trilogy. I thought it was fantastic and it's one of my favorite movie trilogies of all time.

Now what may actually be a fact, is that you're a troll.

[QUOTE="MassEfectivator"]

But I think you misunderstand me with that graphics thing. I meant the ENVIORMENTS. They look cool.

super_slonik

Well, you have to admit, environment in CoD4 looks way better and higher-detailed than in Halo 3. Environments in Halo 3 are huge, but not that cool.

I would have to disagree. I had an old huge thread in system wars about how disappointing the cod4 graphics were. I think halo3 SP graphics were pulled off much better, and MP depends on the level you are talking about.

With Halo 3, it's almost like Bungie said, ok we'll make it higher resolution, improve the graphics a little bit and make some more levels and sit back and watch it sell because it's a Halo game and it's going to sell. They didn't bring anything new, or innovative to the table, and they sure as hell didn't make it as memorable of a gaming experience as the original.

cjbroom

You're missing the point of Halo, if they had made alot of changes to the gameplay for Halo 3 then it just would not have been Halo it would have been just another FPS. Halo has a certain flow and feel to the game that no other FPS has. If they made changes to the formula it wouldn't feel right. The graphics in Halo 3 I could not picture being any different than they are now. Halo has a particular art style that I just couldn't see looking right with like CoD4 realism. The weapons have a certain feel to the way they fire and thats what makes Halo I think.

Here is a simple answer to your question:

1. Most people that ever complained about halo, are people that are bad at it...

2. People that are jealous that its not on their console...

3. People that do not play the SP on legendary (any other difficulty is not worth playing)...

4. ...or simply young guys who have nothing better to do then waster their time whining on forums...

Dr_DudeMan

5. ...or young people who dont get attention in real life for various reasons who want attention for ragging on something so many people love...

[QUOTE="super_slonik"][QUOTE="MassEfectivator"]

But I think you misunderstand me with that graphics thing. I meant the ENVIORMENTS. They look cool.

Dr_DudeMan

Well, you have to admit, environment in CoD4 looks way better and higher-detailed than in Halo 3. Environments in Halo 3 are huge, but not that cool.

I would have to disagree. I had an old huge thread in system wars about how disappointing the cod4 graphics were. I think halo3 SP graphics were pulled off much better, and MP depends on the level you are talking about.

Disappointing? Really? ok... well, maybe it depends on a person, or what he's looking for in the game. Personally, i prefer more realistic type of environment. I just didnt catch that level of detail in Halo 3, and in CoD4 it was seen right away (especialy during credits sequence)

[QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"][QUOTE="super_slonik"][QUOTE="MassEfectivator"]

But I think you misunderstand me with that graphics thing. I meant the ENVIORMENTS. They look cool.

super_slonik

Well, you have to admit, environment in CoD4 looks way better and higher-detailed than in Halo 3. Environments in Halo 3 are huge, but not that cool.

I would have to disagree. I had an old huge thread in system wars about how disappointing the cod4 graphics were. I think halo3 SP graphics were pulled off much better, and MP depends on the level you are talking about.

Disappointing? Really? ok... well, maybe it depends on a person, or what he's looking for in the game. Personally, i prefer more realistic type of environment. I just didnt catch that level of detail in Halo 3, and in CoD4 it was seen right away (especialy during credits sequence)

Well my prob with cod4 was the horrible texture work, it seemed like it was laced with nothing but low-res textures. And I am not saying halo 3 is way better graphicaly because it was disappointing too, but in my opinion it as an overall slightly better quality to it.

[QUOTE="super_slonik"][QUOTE="Dr_DudeMan"][QUOTE="super_slonik"][QUOTE="MassEfectivator"]

But I think you misunderstand me with that graphics thing. I meant the ENVIORMENTS. They look cool.

Dr_DudeMan

Well, you have to admit, environment in CoD4 looks way better and higher-detailed than in Halo 3. Environments in Halo 3 are huge, but not that cool.

I would have to disagree. I had an old huge thread in system wars about how disappointing the cod4 graphics were. I think halo3 SP graphics were pulled off much better, and MP depends on the level you are talking about.

Disappointing? Really? ok... well, maybe it depends on a person, or what he's looking for in the game. Personally, i prefer more realistic type of environment. I just didnt catch that level of detail in Halo 3, and in CoD4 it was seen right away (especialy during credits sequence)

Well my prob with cod4 was the horrible texture work, it seemed like it was laced with nothing but low-res textures. And I am not saying halo 3 is way better graphicaly because it was disappointing too, but in my opinion it as an overall slightly better quality to it.

Also...dont take me as bashing cod4 because I love it. I probably play it as much as halo 3, but for different reasons. And they both do their respective type of MP very very well. So, I am saying that both are awesome, but neither is perfect. No game can technically be perfect really, but both these are damn close for their respective genres (sci-fi fragfest, and tactical modern combat).

Some hate it solely because it's a popular game. Believe it or not but there are some people out there who don't like popular things and tend to disassociate themselves from it.PlasmaBeam44

Thats true for everything. Some people just hate anything popular regardless of whether its actually good or bad. If their favorite indie film was rerelased to theaters and made $75M opening weekend, they would instantly hate that film and call the director a sell out... despite the fact that its the exact same film. Even weirder because they always say things like, "this X got slept on" or "this X should have been a bestseller."

[QUOTE="MassEfectivator"]

9 times out of 10 when someone defends Halo 3, with that as their icon, the other person uses it in the arguement.

And no I can't argue with ur other argument because u used one of the funnest games of all time (Damn you)

But I think you misunderstand me with that graphics thing. I meant the ENVIORMENTS. They look cool. Character models are still crap, but you have to give the first level props at least.

And that one pistol thing was weapons enough for me

cjbroom

Sorry for the cheap shot on the icon thing...

Anyway I think that most people are upset by Halo 3 for the reasons I listed in my first post... The main point of it being that it didn't revolutionize, it didn't innovate.. It just didn't bring anything new or unseen to the table like the original did, and that was a huge let down to a lot of people given a new next-gen console. Yeah the environments are pretty but... c'mon like you said the character models are crap. It looks like they took the models from Halo 2 and just imported them to Halo 3. There's no excuse for that in my opinion.

One thing we can be sure of is that Halo 3 is not the last in the Halo series... sorry if you haven't beaten it and I ruined the surprise... But this time around Bungie better knock us on our ass with something great... something better than the original Halo.

u mean microsoft..........

and about COD 4 , im not saying I hate it and ill admit my first post was pretty harsh, but the thing is, it doesnt revolutionize anyting either, its basically Counter strike with a litle bit of call of duty in it, and couterstrike has been out longer then halo, i guess i was just wondering why that game gets so much hype "best multiplayer ever" and halo 3 gets bashed as more of the same, BTW please dont take me as some halo fanboy because to be completley honest and im a zelda fanboy for life : )