Some people really just need to back off ODST.

I'm gonna keep this short, and simple.

Halo ODST, is FAN SERVICE. I repeat. Halo ODST, is FAN SERVICE.

Not a Halo fan? Whoop-de-doo. Don't buy the game. Don't play the game. Don't cry and complain about it.

Think that it isn't worth $60 because of the short campaign? News flash: TONS of games have been released with a $60 price tag that are the same length as ODST. Movie titles, or just plain mediocre games. Just because it's Halo, ODST just gets that much more hate. And who's to say that you can't wait for a price drop, or find a good deal on it?

Seriously people, move on with life. If someone wants to spend $60 on ODST, so be it. Leave them and ODST, alone.

I'm honestly sick and tired of all these hate posts and 'debates' on whether or not ODST is worth it, or even a good game overall.

Halo ODST is fan service. Nothing more. Bungie is catering for its fans. Live with it.

Well said I couldn't agree more. I just beat campaign and I have to say it was another excellently made Halo. So what if it's shorter than the others? I knew ahead of time what I was spending my money on and I can say that I'm more than satisfied with the product.

I hate seeing people whine about ODST when people are out there buying UP and Cars for $60 >_>wrfade82

Actually, Up only cost $40 when it came out, which is the price that ODST should have had. Maybe it should have followed UP's example. I'm just saying!

For reference, I've spent four hours with Halo 3 ODST so far in the campaign and am not even halfway through it, so it is annoying to see topics that come up going, "I hope you enjoy your 4 hour game!" Because, um, four hours in, and only three missions complete on my end, so yeah, way to make a big deal. Part of the problem is that reviewers have to rush through games to review them, but most people will not rush it. I can see ODST easily taking me 8-10 hours to complete (I'm solo on Heroic).

Plus, there have been a ton of well-received games that were short (Uncharted, Fable 1, Call of Duty 4, Heavenly Sword, etc). ODST is not the first. The thing is, it's fanboy jealousy. No other way to go. People who haven't even touched it are angry as hell that it exists, and I honestly can't figure out why they even care. :P

carefull guys, i put up a post last week asking merely why halo was so hyped and what made the game so great. then i get a notice saying something like , the moderator said i can't post that or something like it. it was garbage. i agree, who cares about the price, if you like it then buy it. if not, who cares.

I'm gonna keep this short, and simple.

Halo ODST, is FAN SERVICE. I repeat. Halo ODST, is FAN SERVICE.

Not a Halo fan? Whoop-de-doo. Don't buy the game. Don't play the game. Don't cry and complain about it.

Think that it isn't worth $60 because of the short campaign? News flash: TONS of games have been released with a $60 price tag that are the same length as ODST. Movie titles, or just plain mediocre games. Just because it's Halo, ODST just gets that much more hate. And who's to say that you can't wait for a price drop, or find a good deal on it?

Seriously people, move on with life. If someone wants to spend $60 on ODST, so be it. Leave them and ODST, alone.

I'm honestly sick and tired of all these hate posts and 'debates' on whether or not ODST is worth it, or even a good game overall.

Halo ODST is fan service. Nothing more. Bungie is catering for its fans. Live with it.

MadVybz

Why? I bought the game? I can say what I want about it. As I assume you are reffering to me as I've been complaining about this game since release.

I buy lots of games, and honestly $60 dollars isn't too big a deal to me, so I can buy lots of games. that doesn't mean everything I play is "worth" 60 dollars.

My problem with this game, is thet built hardly anything specifically for the game. No grapgic updates or anything.

If the people bashing ODST need to stop, so do the people defending it. and you know just as well as I do that majority of people here don't buy cars or up... let alone state it's worth $60.

if the game is so good why don't you compare it to a real game like batman? MW 2? assassins creed 2? bioshock 2?borderlands?

oh wait I forget, those are are either new IP's or hugely upgraded sequals, so there's no comparison to be made.

As I always say, there is a big difference between cost and worth.

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

I'm gonna keep this short, and simple.

Halo ODST, is FAN SERVICE. I repeat. Halo ODST, is FAN SERVICE.

Not a Halo fan? Whoop-de-doo. Don't buy the game. Don't play the game. Don't cry and complain about it.

Think that it isn't worth $60 because of the short campaign? News flash: TONS of games have been released with a $60 price tag that are the same length as ODST. Movie titles, or just plain mediocre games. Just because it's Halo, ODST just gets that much more hate. And who's to say that you can't wait for a price drop, or find a good deal on it?

Seriously people, move on with life. If someone wants to spend $60 on ODST, so be it. Leave them and ODST, alone.

I'm honestly sick and tired of all these hate posts and 'debates' on whether or not ODST is worth it, or even a good game overall.

Halo ODST is fan service. Nothing more. Bungie is catering for its fans. Live with it.

crazywayne287

Why? I bought the game? I can say what I want about it. As I assume you are reffering to me as I've been complaining about this game since release.

I buy lots of games, and honestly $60 dollars isn't too big a deal to me, so I can buy lots of games. that doesn't mean everything I play is "worth" 60 dollars.

My problem with this game, is thet built hardly anything specifically for the game. No grapgic updates or anything.

If the people bashing ODST need to stop, so do the people defending it. and you know just as well as I do that majority of people here don't buy cars or up... let alone state it's worth $60.

if the game is so good why don't you compare it to a real game like batman? MW 2? assassins creed 2? bioshock 2?borderlands?

oh wait I forget, those are are either new IP's or hugely upgraded sequals, so there's no comparison to be made.

As I always say, there is a big difference between cost and worth.

Completely missed the point I was making. Good job.

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

I'm gonna keep this short, and simple.

Halo ODST, is FAN SERVICE. I repeat. Halo ODST, is FAN SERVICE.

Not a Halo fan? Whoop-de-doo. Don't buy the game. Don't play the game. Don't cry and complain about it.

Think that it isn't worth $60 because of the short campaign? News flash: TONS of games have been released with a $60 price tag that are the same length as ODST. Movie titles, or just plain mediocre games. Just because it's Halo, ODST just gets that much more hate. And who's to say that you can't wait for a price drop, or find a good deal on it?

Seriously people, move on with life. If someone wants to spend $60 on ODST, so be it. Leave them and ODST, alone.

I'm honestly sick and tired of all these hate posts and 'debates' on whether or not ODST is worth it, or even a good game overall.

Halo ODST is fan service. Nothing more. Bungie is catering for its fans. Live with it.

crazywayne287

Why? I bought the game? I can say what I want about it. As I assume you are reffering to me as I've been complaining about this game since release.

I buy lots of games, and honestly $60 dollars isn't too big a deal to me, so I can buy lots of games. that doesn't mean everything I play is "worth" 60 dollars.

My problem with this game, is thet built hardly anything specifically for the game. No grapgic updates or anything.

If the people bashing ODST need to stop, so do the people defending it. and you know just as well as I do that majority of people here don't buy cars or up... let alone state it's worth $60.

if the game is so good why don't you compare it to a real game like batman? MW 2? assassins creed 2? bioshock 2?borderlands?

oh wait I forget, those are are either new IP's or hugely upgraded sequals, so there's no comparison to be made.

As I always say, there is a big difference between cost and worth.

I call ignorance on your part if you bought the game and feel the need to complain. Bungie stated what the package would be. A new campaign running with the Halo 3 engine (which is a two-year old engine). There's a reason why it still has the 'Halo 3' in the title. ODST is worth the $60 if you are a fan of Halo 3 but did not download the new maps, are a fan of the Halo campaigns, or have never played Halo but want to try it. It is not worth it if you have already downloaded the Halo 3 maps off of XBL. To those people I'd say wait, to anyone else, this is as legitimate a release as BioShock 2 or Modern Warfare 2.

Don't forget Call of Duty 4 was a short game that had some multiplayer. That's it. People paid $60 for that. They even voted as GotY in many places. Now I'm not saying ODST is the greatest thing ever made, but it as legit as any game, taking chances with the Halo formula while not alienating the people that love the 'Halo feel.' You knew from the start what ODST would be and if you buy it and still complain about it then like I said, I call ignorance on your part. There was never any secret about what this would be. New campaign, Firefight, and Halo 3 multiplayer all running on an older engine. If you didn't think it was 'worth' $60 then why spend it (even if $60 isn't that big a deal to you as you say)?

[QUOTE="crazywayne287"]

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

I'm gonna keep this short, and simple.

Halo ODST, is FAN SERVICE. I repeat. Halo ODST, is FAN SERVICE.

Not a Halo fan? Whoop-de-doo. Don't buy the game. Don't play the game. Don't cry and complain about it.

Think that it isn't worth $60 because of the short campaign? News flash: TONS of games have been released with a $60 price tag that are the same length as ODST. Movie titles, or just plain mediocre games. Just because it's Halo, ODST just gets that much more hate. And who's to say that you can't wait for a price drop, or find a good deal on it?

Seriously people, move on with life. If someone wants to spend $60 on ODST, so be it. Leave them and ODST, alone.

I'm honestly sick and tired of all these hate posts and 'debates' on whether or not ODST is worth it, or even a good game overall.

Halo ODST is fan service. Nothing more. Bungie is catering for its fans. Live with it.

NeonNinja

Why? I bought the game? I can say what I want about it. As I assume you are reffering to me as I've been complaining about this game since release.

I buy lots of games, and honestly $60 dollars isn't too big a deal to me, so I can buy lots of games. that doesn't mean everything I play is "worth" 60 dollars.

My problem with this game, is thet built hardly anything specifically for the game. No grapgic updates or anything.

If the people bashing ODST need to stop, so do the people defending it. and you know just as well as I do that majority of people here don't buy cars or up... let alone state it's worth $60.

if the game is so good why don't you compare it to a real game like batman? MW 2? assassins creed 2? bioshock 2?borderlands?

oh wait I forget, those are are either new IP's or hugely upgraded sequals, so there's no comparison to be made.

As I always say, there is a big difference between cost and worth.

I call ignorance on your part if you bought the game and feel the need to complain. Bungie stated what the package would be. A new campaign running with the Halo 3 engine (which is a two-year old engine). There's a reason why it still has the 'Halo 3' in the title. ODST is worth the $60 if you are a fan of Halo 3 but did not download the new maps, are a fan of the Halo campaigns, or have never played Halo but want to try it. It is not worth it if you have already downloaded the Halo 3 maps off of XBL. To those people I'd say wait, to anyone else, this is as legitimate a release as BioShock 2 or Modern Warfare 2.

Don't forget Call of Duty 4 was a short game that had some multiplayer. That's it. People paid $60 for that. They even voted as GotY in many places. Now I'm not saying ODST is the greatest thing ever made, but it as legit as any game, taking chances with the Halo formula while not alienating the people that love the 'Halo feel.' You knew from the start what ODST would be and if you buy it and still complain about it then like I said, I call ignorance on your part. There was never any secret about what this would be. New campaign, Firefight, and Halo 3 multiplayer all running on an older engine. If you didn't think it was 'worth' $60 then why spend it (even if $60 isn't that big a deal to you as you say)?

I wouldn't call it ignorance. He does have a valid point, he did buy the game and, hence, can share his opinion on it. Sure, I read a billion previews on it, I knew all about the short story line, the 2 year old engine, the fact that there wasn't going to be a single new weapon, and that there wasn't going to ever be matchmaking. And yes, when I heard that there wasn't going to be matchmaking I strongly considered not getting the game.

The single reason I wanted to get ODST was because I was under the impression that you could, hopefully if you prayed enough and sold your soul, play as an ODST on Deathmatch. That's all I basically wanted, was to just have a different look, sure, you'd have shield, or stamina if you want to call it that, and you'd be an equal with a Spartan. I just wanted to be able to play as something that looks different online. I'm strongly disappointed, but at the same time I knew deep down inside that this would never happen.

Now, if you ask me that the game has a huge bias look on it I would agree. I beat the game on the 22th, on Legendary, on four player coop in under 5 hours. I had no problem playing a game that I had just beat in less than half a day, I also had no problem being told that there were new weapons when they were all just recycled from previous titles. But the thing that really gets me, the huge bias look on it, is it's reviews. They all clam this game to be the second coming. If this game wasn't Halo it would get a 7.0 and bellow. And yes, this game is huge fan services, and blah blah blah, it's still a slanted, bias review, and that's what really pisses me off.

People should just look for sales if they have that much trouble with paying $60 for it. Amazon had it for $50 and free shipping as Toys R Us had it for $60 with a $20 gift card and a $12 action figure. Two great sales for a great game. I haven't bought all of the maps yet plus Firefight sounds fun I can't wait to get in next month. I have tried it by the way although just the singleplayer campaign.

Well said I couldn't agree more. I just beat campaign and I have to say it was another excellently made Halo. So what if it's shorter than the others? I knew ahead of time what I was spending my money on and I can say that I'm more than satisfied with the product.

bitemeslippy

This. Word for word. lol. I just beat it on Heroic about half an hour ago and loved every second of it.

Without a doubt, my new favorite game.

Just a side note, I thought the voice acting / casting was some of the best in the history of video games. They were all fantastic, and having 3 people with experience with eachother probably made it very easy. I'm thinking Bungie likes Firefly.. haha

Excellent point Damian.

The reviews on this game show not only how unprincipled Gamespot and IGN and sites like are about game reviews, but also how low the standards are for today's gamers. Yes it's fan service. That's fine. Nobody is arguing that. There is good fan service, however, and then there is bilking that fan service for every single possible dollar.

A 6 hour campaign on an old engine with virtually no new gameplay elements is fan service, but it could have been done as a $20 DLC. It would have still been worth doing for Bungie and they would have still made a ton of money.

A $60 standalone title, however, is just a perfect example of how stupid people are with their gaming dollar and how little companies have to do to get them to spend it. You can like ODST. That's fine. It wasn't a terrible experience. Parting with $60 for it, however, was a joke and there are a lot of people who don't read or post game reviews that are pretty dissapointed right now.

Until idiots stop putting up with this sort of crap, and keep throwing their money away at re-packaged software, the dev companies are only going to keep doing it.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="crazywayne287"]

Why? I bought the game? I can say what I want about it. As I assume you are reffering to me as I've been complaining about this game since release.

I buy lots of games, and honestly $60 dollars isn't too big a deal to me, so I can buy lots of games. that doesn't mean everything I play is "worth" 60 dollars.

My problem with this game, is thet built hardly anything specifically for the game. No grapgic updates or anything.

If the people bashing ODST need to stop, so do the people defending it. and you know just as well as I do that majority of people here don't buy cars or up... let alone state it's worth $60.

if the game is so good why don't you compare it to a real game like batman? MW 2? assassins creed 2? bioshock 2?borderlands?

oh wait I forget, those are are either new IP's or hugely upgraded sequals, so there's no comparison to be made.

As I always say, there is a big difference between cost and worth.

DamianAlexander

I call ignorance on your part if you bought the game and feel the need to complain. Bungie stated what the package would be. A new campaign running with the Halo 3 engine (which is a two-year old engine). There's a reason why it still has the 'Halo 3' in the title. ODST is worth the $60 if you are a fan of Halo 3 but did not download the new maps, are a fan of the Halo campaigns, or have never played Halo but want to try it. It is not worth it if you have already downloaded the Halo 3 maps off of XBL. To those people I'd say wait, to anyone else, this is as legitimate a release as BioShock 2 or Modern Warfare 2.

Don't forget Call of Duty 4 was a short game that had some multiplayer. That's it. People paid $60 for that. They even voted as GotY in many places. Now I'm not saying ODST is the greatest thing ever made, but it as legit as any game, taking chances with the Halo formula while not alienating the people that love the 'Halo feel.' You knew from the start what ODST would be and if you buy it and still complain about it then like I said, I call ignorance on your part. There was never any secret about what this would be. New campaign, Firefight, and Halo 3 multiplayer all running on an older engine. If you didn't think it was 'worth' $60 then why spend it (even if $60 isn't that big a deal to you as you say)?

I wouldn't call it ignorance. He does have a valid point, he did buy the game and, hence, can share his opinion on it. Sure, I read a billion previews on it, I knew all about the short story line, the 2 year old engine, the fact that there wasn't going to be a single new weapon, and that there wasn't going to ever be matchmaking. And yes, when I heard that there wasn't going to be matchmaking I strongly considered not getting the game.

The single reason I wanted to get ODST was because I was under the impression that you could, hopefully if you prayed enough and sold your soul, play as an ODST on Deathmatch. That's all I basically wanted, was to just have a different look, sure, you'd have shield, or stamina if you want to call it that, and you'd be an equal with a Spartan. I just wanted to be able to play as something that looks different online. I'm strongly disappointed, but at the same time I knew deep down inside that this would never happen.

Now, if you ask me that the game has a huge bias look on it I would agree. I beat the game on the 22th, on Legendary, on four player coop in under 5 hours. I had no problem playing a game that I had just beat in less than half a day, I also had no problem being told that there were new weapons when they were all just recycled from previous titles. But the thing that really gets me, the huge bias look on it, is it's reviews. They all clam this game to be the second coming. If this game wasn't Halo it would get a 7.0 and bellow. And yes, this game is huge fan services, and blah blah blah, it's still a slanted, bias review, and that's what really pisses me off.

What biased reviews? The scores range from the 9's to the 7's, and two lower ones from there. The game has an average of 85, which is very good and about what I expected from it. GameSpot gave it a 9, but I don't see these bias reviews you're mentioning. I have not read one review that claimed ODST to be "the second coming." The most positive reviews say it's on par with Halo 3 if not more polished and better than it. But not one review claimed it to be the next big thing in gaming. I honestly don't know what you're talking about. No one has said anything like that about ODST.

Excellent point Damian.

The reviews on this game show not only how unprincipled Gamespot and IGN and sites like are about game reviews, but also how low the standards are for today's gamers. Yes it's fan service. That's fine. Nobody is arguing that. There is good fan service, however, and then there is bilking that fan service for every single possible dollar.

A 6 hour campaign on an old engine with virtually no new gameplay elements is fan service, but it could have been done as a $20 DLC. It would have still been worth doing for Bungie and they would have still made a ton of money.

A $60 standalone title, however, is just a perfect example of how stupid people are with their gaming dollar and how little companies have to do to get them to spend it. You can like ODST. That's fine. It wasn't a terrible experience. Parting with $60 for it, however, was a joke and there are a lot of people who don't read or post game reviews that are pretty dissapointed right now.

Until idiots stop putting up with this sort of crap, and keep throwing their money away at re-packaged software, the dev companies are only going to keep doing it.

Abberon

can i have anhalleujah? thats what im afraid. if ODST sells well. and im sure it will. then more companies will follow Bungies footsteps.

can i have anhalleujah? thats what im afraid. if ODST sells well. and im sure it will. then more companies will follow Bungies footsteps.

MissMorphine

Use your brain.

If people will spend an equivalent amount of money on repackaged software, then why bother working hard to make new and original software? Instead of coming out with a new title every year or so, they'll just come out with ODST's and CoD WAW's and pretend they're something significant like both these games did.

We'll end up (and already are) seeing sequels and prequels to the same franchises OVER AND OVER AND OVER again and the overall level of innovation in the industry will slow down to a crawl.

You can already see this is what's happened in Japan.

I'm gonna keep this short, and simple.

Halo ODST, is FAN SERVICE. I repeat. Halo ODST, is FAN SERVICE.

Not a Halo fan? Whoop-de-doo. Don't buy the game. Don't play the game. Don't cry and complain about it.

Think that it isn't worth $60 because of the short campaign? News flash: TONS of games have been released with a $60 price tag that are the same length as ODST. Movie titles, or just plain mediocre games. Just because it's Halo, ODST just gets that much more hate. And who's to say that you can't wait for a price drop, or find a good deal on it?

Seriously people, move on with life. If someone wants to spend $60 on ODST, so be it. Leave them and ODST, alone.

I'm honestly sick and tired of all these hate posts and 'debates' on whether or not ODST is worth it, or even a good game overall.

Halo ODST is fan service. Nothing more. Bungie is catering for its fans. Live with it.

MadVybz

I agree with everything you said.

The problem is Halo ODST recieved 9's all over the place while it's crap. I seriously don't get why these games always get such high ratings for what little they offer. If any Halo game like this is worth a 9, then allot more games deserve 9's... which they don't get. But this does. It just smells like bias or bribe money. Whatever it is, it's wrong.

If the game recieved a more accurate score, then no one would be complaining. Also, this is a board about games... xbox 360 games in particular and you complain people debate about it? No way...

The problem is Halo ODST recieved 9's all over the place while it's crap. I seriously don't get why these games always get such high ratings for what little they offer. If any Halo game like this is worth a 9, then allot more games deserve 9's... which they don't get. But this does. It just smells like bias or bribe money. Whatever it is, it's wrong.

If the game recieved a more accurate score, then no one would be complaining. Also, this is a board about games... xbox 360 games in particular and you complain people debate about it? No way...

Zevvion

Wow, just wow. The second coming comment was sarcasm. Second, if you really thought about the score this game got you'd realize it's a bias score. 9.0? Seriously? Short campaign, no matchmaking, no new weapons, no new game modes, no Firefight matchmaking, etc... If this game wasn't made by Bungie, and didn't have Halo in it's title it would be harshly reviewed. Good games are constantly getting bad reviews because they "Didn't bring anything new to the table", this is one of those games and it's forgiven because it's a Halo game?

I'm done explaining myself, it should be self explanatory, if you can't figure it out go find an adult to hold your hand and read it out loud to you so you can follow along more smoothly.

Edit: And I'd like to note that I love this game. I love the Auto-Mag, love Firefight, and I do love me some Mythic. But I can't look at a bias review and make no noise about it.

DamianAlexander

Holy crap dude. :P I hope you didn't take the "second coming" as a direct quote. I was quoting you genius, not a review. In case YOU can't read between the lines, I basically said that I have not read a single ODST review that praised it as highly as you make it out to be. I'd really love to see them because either our definitions of bias are really different or you have no clue what you're talking about. Seriously, I've read a ton of ODST reviews (I mean read them not looked at a score), link me, quote it and link me. If I spot it on a legit site I'll bow down to you, "Mr. Every Conversation on a forum involves me 'yelling' at the other guy because I'm so awesome!"

Plus, ODST didn't bring anything new to the table? Have you seen a game's story play out like ODST's? Have you ever played a Halo game that took it's cues from Noir which is all about the atmosphere and setting the mood, and how those two help convey the story? An open-world that you explore how you want after the initial hour or so? You ever seen that in Halo? Or in most shooters? Yeah, you might be able to toss out one or two for the open-world, but nothing quite like ODST on the market. If you can let me know which shooters out there follow the mold this one has with it's story-telling, Noir themes AND open-world to reach those missions for the story then hit me with it because I want to play that game too.

And this short-campaign you speak of (sorry if I'm late in responding to you, I was actually, y'know, playing ODST), I've finished five of the eight missions and I've spent five and a half hours with the game's campaign. There are three more missions, so for me it's looking like it'll be an 8 hour campaign. Is that really short for an FPS? I wouldn't know, I have to ask adults. :roll: Though, I do agree that the lack of matchmaking is kind of lame, but again, when was the last time Bungie put matchmaking for co-op? Just competitive.

Again, tell me where the bias is. You keep pointing out the 9.0, but as I'm playing I feel like I am playing a superb product. Your opinion isn't fact. Now if you don't mind I apparently have to go hold hands with an adult to figure out what you're saying. Hopefully, she'll walk me through the park and we can have a lovely evening together.

Oh, and just an FYI, you need to calm the frick down when responding to people, man. I mean, it's only a forum tough guy. ;)

I am not a big Halo fan but. I do want to play this game. I may not buy but I am renting this weekend if I like it I'll use gameflys buy feature which is awesome and much cheaper than gamestop/eb. I gotta play it to make any point I make valid good or bad. I'm never one to criticize anything just based on seeing a name and automatically saying oh it sucks without having even played one minute of it. Truth is I wanted to become a fan of Halo I just haven't been that impressed with the titles so far. If I had played the first one when it first came out I might have gotten hooked but I started with 3 and worked my way down. I wasn't impressed with Halo 3 because I played it right after playing COD 4, 5, and Killzone 2 in order so it really was a dissappointment compared to those. ODST should be good I hope. At least this time I'll play it before COD 6/MW2.

[QUOTE="Zevvion"]

The problem is Halo ODST recieved 9's all over the place while it's crap. I seriously don't get why these games always get such high ratings for what little they offer. If any Halo game like this is worth a 9, then allot more games deserve 9's... which they don't get. But this does. It just smells like bias or bribe money. Whatever it is, it's wrong.

If the game recieved a more accurate score, then no one would be complaining. Also, this is a board about games... xbox 360 games in particular and you complain people debate about it? No way...

chaoscougar1

Holy crap dude. :P I hope you didn't take the "second coming" as a direct quote. I was quoting you genius, not a review. In case YOU can't read between the lines, I basically said that I have not read a single ODST review that praised it as highly as you make it out to be. I'd really love to see them because either our definitions of bias are really different or you have no clue what you're talking about. Seriously, I've read a ton of ODST reviews (I mean read them not looked at a score), link me, quote it and link me. If I spot it on a legit site I'll bow down to you, "Mr. Every Conversation on a forum involves me 'yelling' at the other guy because I'm so awesome!"

Plus, ODST didn't bring anything new to the table? Have you seen a game's story play out like ODST's? Have you ever played a Halo game that took it's cues from Noir which is all about the atmosphere and setting the mood, and how those two help convey the story? An open-world that you explore how you want after the initial hour or so? You ever seen that in Halo? Or in most shooters? Yeah, you might be able to toss out one or two for the open-world, but nothing quite like ODST on the market. If you can let me know which shooters out there follow the mold this one has with it's story-telling, Noir themes AND open-world to reach those missions for the story then hit me with it because I want to play that game too.

And this short-campaign you speak of (sorry if I'm late in responding to you, I was actually, y'know, playing ODST), I've finished five of the eight missions and I've spent five and a half hours with the game's campaign. There are three more missions, so for me it's looking like it'll be an 8 hour campaign. Is that really short for an FPS? I wouldn't know, I have to ask adults. :roll: Though, I do agree that the lack of matchmaking is kind of lame, but again, when was the last time Bungie put matchmaking for co-op? Just competitive.

Again, tell me where the bias is. You keep pointing out the 9.0, but as I'm playing I feel like I am playing a superb product. Your opinion isn't fact. Now if you don't mind I apparently have to go hold hands with an adult to figure out what you're saying. Hopefully, she'll walk me through the park and we can have a lovely evening together.

Oh, and just an FYI, you need to calm the frick down when responding to people, man. I mean, it's only a forum tough guy. ;)

NeonNinja

Sorry to 'mingle' in your discussion but doesn't it work both ways that opinion isn't fact? You may feel like playing a suberb product, but he might think it's nothing more then good. Which would explain why he disagrees with the review the game got. Also, about the 'new to the table' business; off course it's a little different then previous Halo's, but underneath the mask it's still the same game that plays nearly the same. I think you are putting too much emphasis on the slightly different things ODST does, because they are small changes that doesn't make it feel any different of a game then previous installments. It's not like the game takes a whole new direction.

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I'm gonna keep this short, and simple.

Halo ODST, is FAN SERVICE. I repeat. Halo ODST, is FAN SERVICE.

Not a Halo fan? Whoop-de-doo. Don't buy the game. Don't play the game. Don't cry and complain about it.

Think that it isn't worth $60 because of the short campaign? News flash: TONS of games have been released with a $60 price tag that are the same length as ODST. Movie titles, or just plain mediocre games. Just because it's Halo, ODST just gets that much more hate. And who's to say that you can't wait for a price drop, or find a good deal on it?

Seriously people, move on with life. If someone wants to spend $60 on ODST, so be it. Leave them and ODST, alone.

I'm honestly sick and tired of all these hate posts and 'debates' on whether or not ODST is worth it, or even a good game overall.

Halo ODST is fan service. Nothing more. Bungie is catering for its fans. Live with it.

MadVybz

Why? I bought the game? I can say what I want about it. As I assume you are reffering to me as I've been complaining about this game since release.

I buy lots of games, and honestly $60 dollars isn't too big a deal to me, so I can buy lots of games. that doesn't mean everything I play is "worth" 60 dollars.

My problem with this game, is thet built hardly anything specifically for the game. No grapgic updates or anything.

If the people bashing ODST need to stop, so do the people defending it. and you know just as well as I do that majority of people here don't buy cars or up... let alone state it's worth $60.

if the game is so good why don't you compare it to a real game like batman? MW 2? assassins creed 2? bioshock 2?borderlands?

oh wait I forget, those are are either new IP's or hugely upgraded sequals, so there's no comparison to be made.

As I always say, there is a big difference between cost and worth.

You sir, fail horribly. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE GAME, DON'T BUY IT!!! And, there were some HUGE graphical improvements in ODST. Plus, you get a multiplayer that many people pay 100 dollars for if they buy all the map packs. AND you get an awesome campaign that is 4X as long as a COD game, and then top it all off with firefight and you have a great deal. I think someone needs to call the waaaaambulence.

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The problem is Halo ODST recieved 9's all over the place while it's crap. I seriously don't get why these games always get such high ratings for what little they offer. If any Halo game like this is worth a 9, then allot more games deserve 9's... which they don't get. But this does. It just smells like bias or bribe money. Whatever it is, it's wrong.

If the game recieved a more accurate score, then no one would be complaining. Also, this is a board about games... xbox 360 games in particular and you complain people debate about it? No way...

Zevvion

Why don't you stop and think for a moment.

Why would I put debate in quotations?

The answer is: There is no real debate about it.

A debate is supposed to include 2 or more 'parties' of people that are to present an argument to an audience, and actually be able to be persuasive. That is a debate. With ODST, there is no debate. From what I've seen, there are 3 groups.

1. Those who are long running fans of Halo that have played the game, and thoroughly enjoyed it.
2. Those who haven't even played itand continue to bash it with no credible sources or opinions.
3. Those who have bought it and didn't enjoy it, whether if they knew what they were getting, or not.

I'll keep this simple (once again).

1. It's your own fault for going out and buying a game that you didn't like, because you didn't do research on it. 'Nuff said.
2. To those who went out and actually didthe research, andstill went out and bought the game, shouldn't be complaining either. By doing research on it, you should have been able to conclude whether or not you would like the game. Once again, there's no excuses.

It's like going to a fast food restaurant, and asking for a horse burger, already knowing that you don't like horse meat, buying it, then eating it, and asking for a refund because you didn't like it. It's not very logical, is it?

1. Because you're NOT gonna get a refund. You bought it, you ate it. Your money's value has been used for its purpose.
2. You went through something that you knew you wouldn't like in the first place.And for the last time, it's your own fault.

With that said, the so-called 'debates' shouldn't even be dubbed the title, because they're completely pointless, useless, and utterly annoying. Both for me, a person who isn't even that much of a Halo fan, and those who love it to death.

I'm not the biggest Halo fan, but I did enjoy the multiplayer experiences overall.

In any case, whether people validate my point isn't important or accurate (i haven't played ODST)...I will write it anyway.

It's definitely true, most Halo fans or gamers who research a lot on the internet for previews (99% of the people who visit this site) would have known or had some sort of expectation...Bungie was upfront on the game's offerings. Nevertheless, people who bought the game still have a reason to give their own opinion. Whether is negative or positive...gamers are going to give their impressions on what they purchase. Maybe to some it's ignorant or unjust, but it's going to happen...do we really have to complain about the 'haters' or complainers every time a big title is released?...seriously?...

I more feel for the general public who don't read previews or reviews online, buy this game expecting another full game (not just an extension to Halo 3, even though it DOES state Halo 3 in the title). Why was this released on disc as a "brand new game" instead of DLC...? Because MS knew it would sell, plain and simple. We've seen this in the past, I mean look at how many Wii games are remakes from last gen with different titles...

In any case, i'm not defending any side here. I think both sides have valid points...i really dont understand the need to complain about the haters (initial post)

I have no problem with the way this game is being reviewed. Most of the reviews I've read warn that this game may not be worth the price point. Most of the reviews I have read basically read like they are reviewing downloadable content.

I don't really think the game was worth the price, but I have had soooo much fun playing this game. I really doubt that this game's success is going to ruin the gaming industry in fail swoop, as some of you have suggested.

And don't tell us that we're idiots for buying the game just because you're too cheap/broke/filled with fanboy hatred.

I have no problem with the way this game is being reviewed. Most of the reviews I've read warn that this game may not be worth the price point. Most of the reviews I have read basically read like they are reviewing downloadable content.

I don't really think the game was worth the price, but I have had soooo much fun playing this game. I really doubt that this game's success is going to ruin the gaming industry in fail swoop, as some of you have suggested.

And don't tell us that we're idiots for buying the game just because you're too cheap/broke/filled with fanboy hatred.

the story is a lot more interesting to me now that you are a regular, though highly trained, commando rather than Jesus in power armor. sixgears2

Funniest thing I've ever seen someone use to describe Master Chief. :lol:

for me, i believe that odst was well worth the 69.99 price tag (canada). i am a HUGE fan of halo and the franchise itself so that was one reason to get it. i also was going to purchase all the maps via dlc on the marketplace, but, when i heard about odst coming with EVERY SINGLE halo 3 map plus 3 NEW MAPS i decided to wait and get it as a package with the new game. i purchased the game at bestbuy (again, im in canada) and i also got halo: combat evolved absolutely free!!!! the entire game not a download code. so that right there is completely worth the price tag of odst. i ABSOLUTELY love the story, its incredible and now i get to play combat evolved as soon as im done with odst. overall, i think the purchase was PERFECT for me.

WOW a SIX HOUR campaign AND 3 new maps for $69 CAD!??? THAT'S AMA....wait that's a joke.

Some people have pretty low standards for their gaming dollars.

I have no problem with the way this game is being reviewed. Most of the reviews I've read warn that this game may not be worth the price point. Most of the reviews I have read basically read like they are reviewing downloadable content.MCDogDoo

The reviews should reflect the price tag. Review it as DLC and say that. It's not hard to say really fun but it's too short to be worth the price tag.That's what was said about Heavenly Sword, and it suffered in the reviews because of it.

I don't really think the game was worth the price, but I have had soooo much fun playing this game. I really doubt that this game's success is going to ruin the gaming industry in fail swoop, as some of you have suggested.

MCDogDoo

Not on it's own no. We can all see the general trend though. Sequels, Prequels, spin-offs and such. FFXIII? Seriously?

And don't tell us that we're idiots for buying the game just because you're too cheap/broke/filled with fanboy hatred.

MCDogDoo

I probably spend over $1500 a year just on games. I don't hate Halo. I liked the first two. I simply question the standards and mental capacity of people happy spending $60 on the same game over and over again. Where there are morons, there will be companies to rip them off. If they're happy for it, all the better for the company.