Sonic Unleashed--Gamespot and IGN are incapbale of offering a fair review.

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#1 tullistyler
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It's official: we've gotten to the point where the major reviewers like IGN and Gamespot just see the word Sonic in the title and instantly hate any game from Sega about their flagship blue mascot. Sure there is good reason to be skeptical of Sonic games thanks to Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 06, but the bias has permeated for so long that the speedster can't get a fair review anymore. TSSZ reported that the IGN reviewer Hil Goldstein didn't even finish a quarter of Sonic Unleashed before giving it a 4/10 and Gamespot gave Unleashed a worse score—3.5 vs. 4.4—than the garbage that was Sonic 06.

... Are you kidding me?

At least Game Informer breaks games down honestly and fairly but IGN and Gamespot reviews are totally biased. Their reviewers are unethical for not finishing games before writing their reviews. How could this game possibly score so low when the rest of the reviewing community—just the one that Gamespot acknowledges, mind you—give it a 6.4 and their own members give it an average of 8.0?

Quit drinking haterade for no reason and grade games fairly, Gamespot. You've always graded too harshly but this is ridiculous. At this point I will be hard-pressed to ever trust one of your reviews again.

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#2 twobad4u
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Yeah , I agree I'm at the point now ,I just don't trust their reviews anymore .
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#3 craigalan23
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After the Lost odyssey review i lost any caring for reviewers reviews. I'm just basing my opinions on what the game offers,if it has bugs,and if it's appealing to me. I've liked so many games that reviewers hated that i've stopped even caring about what others think.
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Stopped carrign about reviews after Lost Odyssey and Last Remnant got such low reviews, yet they are two of my fav rpgs/games this gen.
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#5 MAILER_DAEMON
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Have you played the game yet?
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#6 craigalan23
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Stopped carrign about reviews after Lost Odyssey and Last Remnant got such low reviews, yet they are two of my fav rpgs/games this gen.kozzy1234

I have to agree i tried Last remnant at my friends after you praised it so much and it's amazing. Getting it for christmas and i can't wait.

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#7 twobad4u
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I've come to realize that really only one thing matter for a game , Graphics yeah,sound yeah,level design yeah ...blah blah blah but in the end it just has to be FUN! Regardless of any other factor. And that can be up for alot of debate on what is fun to someone,may not be to someone else..... Dead Space is one of the best games this year ,it excellence on so many levels ..And it's a blast to play . But A Kingdom of Keflings is the other end of the spectrum. But again it's alot of fun....
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#8 Fhiz
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Here's the thing. It's a bad game. The actual sonic parts are amazing, but being that those parts last 5 minutes and the werehog crap lasts 25 minutes and is 70% of the game, the negatives outway the positives.

When did sega say to themselves that a game of nothing but sonic running really fast isn't fun anymore.

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#9 deactivated-5c37d3adcd094
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I wish people would stop moaning about reviews. It's the reviewers personal opinion, so there is always going to be an element of bias. If you like it, then play it, and stop worrying what other people think about it.
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I wish people would stop moaning about reviews. It's the reviewers personal opinion, so there is always going to be an element of bias. If you like it, then play it, and stop worrying what other people think about it.kamikaze_pigmy
The whole opinion thing, is absolute crap. A review is not supposed to be how much you liked it but what the game has to offer. If a reviewer enjoyed it alot but there are many bugs, a reviewer should not give it a high score due to the fact that a review is supposed to be how well the game is done. It's like a book, if you enjoy a book but there are craploads of errors, the story is weak, and the characters are completely unlikeable, does that mean that it was a good book? Hell no, it means you just enjoyed a bad book.
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[QUOTE="kamikaze_pigmy"]I wish people would stop moaning about reviews. It's the reviewers personal opinion, so there is always going to be an element of bias. If you like it, then play it, and stop worrying what other people think about it.dukebd699
The whole opinion thing, is absolute crap. A review is not supposed to be how much you liked it but what the game has to offer. If a reviewer enjoyed it alot but there are many bugs, a reviewer should not give it a high score due to the fact that a review is supposed to be how well the game is done. It's like a book, if you enjoy a book but there are craploads of errors, the story is weak, and the characters are completely unlikeable, does that mean that it was a good book? Hell no, it means you just enjoyed a bad book.

Wow, you blow me away with your ignorance.
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#12 miladesn2
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Bolt got 7.0 from GS! Unleashed must be really really bad game if 3.5 is what it deserves! Bolt is terrible!
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[QUOTE="dukebd699"][QUOTE="kamikaze_pigmy"]I wish people would stop moaning about reviews. It's the reviewers personal opinion, so there is always going to be an element of bias. If you like it, then play it, and stop worrying what other people think about it.kamikaze_pigmy
The whole opinion thing, is absolute crap. A review is not supposed to be how much you liked it but what the game has to offer. If a reviewer enjoyed it alot but there are many bugs, a reviewer should not give it a high score due to the fact that a review is supposed to be how well the game is done. It's like a book, if you enjoy a book but there are craploads of errors, the story is weak, and the characters are completely unlikeable, does that mean that it was a good book? Hell no, it means you just enjoyed a bad book.

Wow, you blow me away with your ignorance.

If I'm so ignorant, read the part of this that talks about what reviews are then try and tell me how he is wrong. I believe it's under the 2nd set of quotes. Good luck http://www.gamespot.com/users/Palantas/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25586025&tag=all-about;blog3
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[QUOTE="dukebd699"][QUOTE="kamikaze_pigmy"][QUOTE="dukebd699"] The whole opinion thing, is absolute crap. A review is not supposed to be how much you liked it but what the game has to offer. If a reviewer enjoyed it alot but there are many bugs, a reviewer should not give it a high score due to the fact that a review is supposed to be how well the game is done. It's like a book, if you enjoy a book but there are craploads of errors, the story is weak, and the characters are completely unlikeable, does that mean that it was a good book? Hell no, it means you just enjoyed a bad book.

Wow, you blow me away with your ignorance.

If I'm so ignorant, read the part of this that talks about what reviews are then try and tell me how he is wrong. I believe it's under the 2nd set of quotes. Good luck http://www.gamespot.com/users/Palantas/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25586025&tag=all-about;blog3

"Reviews are not SUPPOSED to express an individual's opinion" 'Supposed' and what is actually true are two completely different things. Plus, why link to a blog? That doesn't prove anything. I could write a blog about how elephants are secretly plotting to take over Europe, but would that make it a fact? No.
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[QUOTE="kamikaze_pigmy"][QUOTE="dukebd699"][QUOTE="kamikaze_pigmy"] Wow, you blow me away with your ignorance.

If I'm so ignorant, read the part of this that talks about what reviews are then try and tell me how he is wrong. I believe it's under the 2nd set of quotes. Good luck http://www.gamespot.com/users/Palantas/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25586025&tag=all-about;blog3

"Reviews are not SUPPOSED to express an individual's opinion" 'Supposed' and what is actually true are two completely different things. Plus, why link to a blog? That doesn't prove anything. I could write a blog about how elephants are secretly plotting to take over Europe, but would that make it a fact? No.

It's because he makes good points. You are the one who is just going by ignorance. As he said, reviews are guides by which thousands of people buy games according to. They should be completely unbiased and say the strengths and weaknesses of the game and go off that.
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#16 deactivated-5c37d3adcd094
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[QUOTE="dukebd699"][QUOTE="kamikaze_pigmy"][QUOTE="dukebd699"] If I'm so ignorant, read the part of this that talks about what reviews are then try and tell me how he is wrong. I believe it's under the 2nd set of quotes. Good luck http://www.gamespot.com/users/Palantas/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25586025&tag=all-about;blog3

"Reviews are not SUPPOSED to express an individual's opinion" 'Supposed' and what is actually true are two completely different things. Plus, why link to a blog? That doesn't prove anything. I could write a blog about how elephants are secretly plotting to take over Europe, but would that make it a fact? No.

It's because he makes good points. You are the one who is just going by ignorance. As he said, reviews are guides by which thousands of people buy games according to. They should be completely unbiased and say the strengths and weaknesses of the game and go off that.

I agree with you, they should be unbiased. But they aren't, which was my original point.
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#17 mitu123
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Critics prefer the Wii version though, I'm trying to figure out why, better framerate?
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#18 AnotherMulligan
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guys, the problem with any sonic review you see is this: Sonic has never again lived up to the precedent it sent for itself on the genesis. sonic the hedgehog was the first game i ever owened for my genesis, and it still is one of my favorites. the reviewers not only are looking back on these golden days and sonic, sad that the series can't re-achievethat level of greatness. also, they are fed up because, despite bad reviews for every sonic game since Sonic Adventure back on dreamcast, the developers refuse to change anything. sure, you can try a new gimic, like the werehog thing or guns like in shadow the hedgehog, but when you don't fix the game mechanics that were flawed in the first place, the game is just as bad, if not worse then the previous since nothing has changed, despite the fact that it's been asked for.

i think the reviewers have just gotten to the point where their tired of restating the problems, and are just going to give these games lower, and lower scores until they get something right again. i'm sorry, but if you truly think that the reviews for unleashed were unfare, you yourself have to be harboring bias FOR the game. after all TC, your gamerpic is sonic!

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#19 PlasmaBeam44
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Going into a Sonic game you'll automatically have low expectations and when they are justified with a horrible camera, horrible framerate, and godawful Werehog levels it's hard to enjoy yourself. Sure the Sonic levels are fun but you can't score a game high when only half the game is good. You may like the game now but trust me, your love with slowly fade away in time when you eventually see the game for what it is.
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#20 FNKYMNK
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Dude, Sonic games haven't been decent since SA2B.
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#21 gamer082009
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LOL, so now it's come to this, first hate on Gamespot then hate on IGN, now hate on them both? Incredible, now I see that people will never be satisfied with a review if it doesn't go their way. Obviously Sonic got the review it got for a reason. Heck some people think Barbie games should be rated 10/10, and if it's not..you guessed it, the person must be INSANE. People, realize Gamespot and IGN are giving THEIR opinion of what the game is to THEM...stop crying!
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http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/sonicunleashed
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Dude, Sonic games haven't been decent since SA2B. FNKYMNK
While this is completely true - GS gave that game a 6.8 if I remember correctly.... lol.
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[QUOTE="dukebd699"][QUOTE="kamikaze_pigmy"]I wish people would stop moaning about reviews. It's the reviewers personal opinion, so there is always going to be an element of bias. If you like it, then play it, and stop worrying what other people think about it.kamikaze_pigmy
The whole opinion thing, is absolute crap. A review is not supposed to be how much you liked it but what the game has to offer. If a reviewer enjoyed it alot but there are many bugs, a reviewer should not give it a high score due to the fact that a review is supposed to be how well the game is done. It's like a book, if you enjoy a book but there are craploads of errors, the story is weak, and the characters are completely unlikeable, does that mean that it was a good book? Hell no, it means you just enjoyed a bad book.

Wow, you blow me away with your ignorance.

I have to agree That was ignorant, how could you enjoy a game or book with crap loads of errors?
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#25 armyman455
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yeah i think they dont rate fairly because they get shooter fanatics to play through a complex rgp and rate it so theyre like oh this is garbage and etc only in different situations. sometimes theyre right though like metal gear acid wasnt that impressive and ign said so but once again my preference cause frankly i liked fracture and they gave crap rating for it too
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#26 z3dd1cu5
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[QUOTE="tullistyler"]

At least Game Informer breaks games down honestly and fairly but IGN and Gamespot reviews are totally biased.

I've been saying this for so long. I never even bother reading the Gamespot reviews, Game Informer is the only major review source that actually does a fair and balanced review.
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#27 y2kern
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most of gamespot reviews are biased. not only for sonic but for also games such as fable 2, were severly underated. which is probably one of the best rpg's for the year. Ign is even worst than gamespot. when a game gets reviewed i also look for an xplay review which i think is more accurate than gamespot and ign.
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#28 vashkey
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I havent played it yet, but from what I've read from other reviewers and from the fans I have a real, real hard time beleing gamespot was fair about their score. They didn't even mention glitches and yet some how it scored lower than Sonic 06. Im probably going to give the game a try because alot of the low scores I've seen so far are just "it's sonic so it sucks, we're not exactly sure why, but it it totally sucks!"
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#29 vashkey
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i[QUOTE="kamikaze_pigmy"][QUOTE="dukebd699"] The whole opinion thing, is absolute crap. A review is not supposed to be how much you liked it but what the game has to offer. If a reviewer enjoyed it alot but there are many bugs, a reviewer should not give it a high score due to the fact that a review is supposed to be how well the game is done. It's like a book, if you enjoy a book but there are craploads of errors, the story is weak, and the characters are completely unlikeable, does that mean that it was a good book? Hell no, it means you just enjoyed a bad book.randomguy15
Wow, you blow me away with your ignorance.

I have to agree That was ignorant, how could you enjoy a game or book with crap loads of errors?

*Cough*Gears of War series*cough*

And Duke is right. A reviewer must put aside their feeling when reviewing a game and be fair. If a game they are reviewing is their favorite ever but has heaps of glitches they have to put their feeling aside and count that against the game. Or say a game has alot of hype, the reviewer must not let that cloud their judgment, but instead review the game based on it's merits rather than be an idiot and be angry just because the game has lots of advertisements.

In other words, be unbaised.

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i'd like to see a debate between the gamespot reviewer of sonic unleashed and the hardcore gamer magazine reviewer, who gave it 4.5/5.
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#31 orb_03_2006
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I'm only gonna buy a Sonic game if it's old school! :D but this Werewolf-type thing is absolute crap. they should have just kept i the way it used to be. the developers obviously had no idea what they were doing :P
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#32 Ignition93
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Gamespot's Reviewing Brain functions as such.

Graphics>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everything Else. If the game doesn't look amazing then it's obviously not a good game in any respect.

I mean Gamespot gave Grand Theft Auto IV a 10/10. Think about that for a minute and then come back to me.

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#33 Arthas045
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I just go with my own judgement anymore... I like Sonic, so I might give it a try one day...
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#34 OmegaFM
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We have two problems here I guess.

1. Werehog parts in SU. I do like those parts actually. It reminds me Ristar, Tomb Raider lol, whatever else. And yes I am patient enough to retry the failed jump in werehog stage, not running and whining about 'so hard how come!!'. Still, I'd prefer day stages myself.

2. Marioboy reviewer? Really, SU got a lower score than first X360\PS3 Sonic. How can this be? Mario involved, I swear! Or just wrong person to review.

Overall: there is no point in that GS SU review at all. People who plays this game scores it 7-9. Meanwhile some nerd giving it 3.5 out letting us to think that's official GS opinion. Thus blowing away some casual gamers who may had fun of this game but won't buy it anymore.

Gamespot, wake up already. Don't let to review Sega games (any games) by nintendoboys, lol. Nor segaboys, though. Just by someone who plays various games, not FPS or strategies only, etc. Or by someone posessing casual gamer vision.

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I should really never read reviews because I find that I enjoy games more without reading them.
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There's a reason they only played through a quarter of it. Because it sucked!
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#37 mitu123
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[QUOTE="FNKYMNK"]Dude, Sonic games haven't been decent since SA2B. Breakfast_Clubber
While this is completely true - GS gave that game a 6.8 if I remember correctly.... lol.

It was a port, and ports don't score higher(unless their are major changes), plus Sonic Adventure 2 on the Dreamcast got a 8.6.
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#38 AtlanticRock
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[QUOTE="Breakfast_Clubber"][QUOTE="FNKYMNK"]Dude, Sonic games haven't been decent since SA2B. mitu123
While this is completely true - GS gave that game a 6.8 if I remember correctly.... lol.

It was a port, and ports don't score higher(unless their are major changes), plus Sonic Adventure 2 on the Dreamcast got a 8.6.

I love the Sonic Adventure series... that new SONIC THE HEDGEHOG with that new guy Silver... got me angry, I just didn't see the need for another hedgehog character... Shadow was enough for new sonic counter-part and we already have Knuckles for the bad-a$$ guy... ugh...

I was looking forward to Sonic Unleashed, but man that review is throwing me off... I'll probably rent it...

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#39 IZoMBiEI
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its funny theres so many people trying to convince themselves this is a good game. reading the review confirms for me that is game is not worth playing.