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This game already sucks. You know why? BECAUSE I AM NO LONGER A TWELVE YEAR OLD! Less than a minute in and I already see my trusted canine companion smoking a pipe. Really? A dog smoking a pipe? I realize that theres a niche for JRPG's for those of us who never reached puberty and continue to smoke from a bong while living in mother's basement, but the rest of us who have grown a set of round, spherical testicals would like an RPG that doesn't treat us like retards. Imagination is a beautiful thing, but reality set in when we landed a real job and decided that gaming is something we do as an extra-curricular activity. I am no longer satisfied following an unimaginative group of non-sensical teenagers through a storyline full of fairy dust and pixie spooge. The average gamer is 30+ years of age, please treat us as such. Youth and ignorance was a beautiful thing, but we have advanced, (most of us,) beyond the veil of stupidity. Life is more than finding object A to solve problem B, and this game, (so far,) does nothing more than turn the typical gamer into a pre-pubescent dumbass. Demand more than re-hashed gaming!SkullcandyCalm down, maybe the developers didn't realize that a dog smoking a pipe could upset someone so much. And I don't think the average gamer is 30+ of age. So all games don't have to target your age. If you think the game is too young for you then don't play it.
[QUOTE="Skullcandy"]This game already sucks. You know why? BECAUSE I AM NO LONGER A TWELVE YEAR OLD! Less than a minute in and I already see my trusted canine companion smoking a pipe. Really? A dog smoking a pipe? I realize that theres a niche for JRPG's for those of us who never reached puberty and continue to smoke from a bong while living in mother's basement, but the rest of us who have grown a set of round, spherical testicals would like an RPG that doesn't treat us like retards. Imagination is a beautiful thing, but reality set in when we landed a real job and decided that gaming is something we do as an extra-curricular activity. I am no longer satisfied following an unimaginative group of non-sensical teenagers through a storyline full of fairy dust and pixie spooge. The average gamer is 30+ years of age, please treat us as such. Youth and ignorance was a beautiful thing, but we have advanced, (most of us,) beyond the veil of stupidity. Life is more than finding object A to solve problem B, and this game, (so far,) does nothing more than turn the typical gamer into a pre-pubescent dumbass. Demand more than re-hashed gaming!Conroi58Calm down, maybe the developers didn't realize that a dog smoking a pipe could upset someone so much. And I don't think the average gamer is 30+ of age. So all games don't have to target your age. If you think the game is too young for you then don't play it.ROFL. And yeah. I agree with Conroi.
My thoughts, I personally really liked it. But then again, I've been a fan of the Tales series for quite a while. :] Rita is super broken though (especially with Overdrive, instant casts it seems). The cel shading is pulled off great, and makes the game look very good. And the voice acting is pretty good too, as long as Collette doesn't show up. Her voice is annoying.
I guess I should have specified that the average AMERICAN gamer is 30+ years old. Lollypops and gummybears were great when I was growing up, but now I need beer and marijuana to normalize myself. Awww, life is hard, please sell me a game full of innocent far-eastern children to remind me that life is a beautiful process full of exploration and self-discovery. Barf. Excuse me while I buy this game to scrape my butthole of ignorance.
It sucked for 3 reasons:
1) Japenese anime games usually tend to suck anyway, which is why i stay away from them. Not to mention the fact that they just dont appeal to me.
2) There were ENDLESS CUTSCENES, OMFG! I spent like an hour watching the characters talk and 5 minutes playing.
3) The controls were horrible.
wow I didnt know there was a ToV demo out there! gonna go dl it now. haha
and what I did see from the gameplay vids/trailers makes the game seem kinda slow paced compared to ToS, just what I think. hopefully the demo turns out great
I guess I should have specified that the average AMERICAN gamer is 30+ years old. Lollypops and gummybears were great when I was growing up, but now I need beer and marijuana to normalize myself. Awww, life is hard, please sell me a game full of innocent far-eastern children to remind me that life is a beautiful process full of exploration and self-discovery. Barf. Excuse me while I buy this game to scrape my butthole of ignorance.
Skullcandy
if you dont like it. dont buy it. and plus, it hasnt even come out yet. dont throw a fit over something that isnt out.
If you're refering to me, my answer to that is no. I just don't enjoy the game, and I think it's too childish for myself and older gamers, but the younger generation deserve them. I just didn't like the game at all and thought it was too childish for just me. I perfer Lost Odyssey (more mature) RPG's.imakillaholic
I find nothing mature about you. You're as childish as you call the games and similar games. What i would find mature is if you play it because you like it, not because you think it looks childish. If you think the graphics style looks childish so you won't play it, that is just being immature. You're not giving the story or anything any chance.
I have a friend and he's 21, i bet older than your 14 year old ass and he loves anything, he doesn't judge. He even wanted to watch the movie Wall-E and i bet you, mr maturity, would be like, ew its such a children's movie. I find him more mature than you are because he doesn't judge by the graphics/screenplay. So maybe you should quit worrying about being a child again, and growing up so fast.
Sorry, but i really don't mind people believing in whatever, but expressing yourself in the way HE did makes me backfire and i will say something to you . Didn't mean to offend anyone else but him, because preachers and whatnot are just annoying. Believe what you want but don't make tell everyone -_-;
But even if you didn't like the gameplay or anything at all, this game is NOT childish. You want childish? look at all the nickelodian games. Compare this to that, and you will find yourself a huge difference. Tales games have depth in their story lines and i like that.
I'm not buying it, so don't worry. The recent RECESSION, (though Americans still won't admit it,) has me pinching pennies with the best of the semites. Oops, did I offend? My 360 is going to my son who lives with his mother in the god-awful bible belt south. Ignorance will always be king in the land of the free, it allows those of us with nothing more than a high school education, (most of the U.S.,) to believe that if we continue to pray to a stolen diety, we have a chance at the magic salvation provided by our imaginations and enforced by crap games like Tales of Vesperia to bring beauty into existence. Gaming is nothing more than escape, which it has been since the mid-80's. All I ask for is a touch of reality. Tales of Vesperia will do nothing more than keep the blind sightless. And yes, it's that obvious in the demo. The full release of the game will do nothing to sway me.SkullcandyTroll much?
Weak demo. Graphics were "pretty and vibrant" but where was the tutorial?! So you MUST be a fan to know how the control works or something? But then again, isnt this the first Tales game on the 360? Hmm odd, FAIL. I was really interested in this game but the demo killed it for me. I also though the canine smoking on a pipe was tasteless humor. I prefer turn-based.
I'm not buying it, so don't worry. The recent RECESSION, (though Americans still won't admit it,) has me pinching pennies with the best of the semites. Oops, did I offend? My 360 is going to my son who lives with his mother in the god-awful bible belt south. Ignorance will always be king in the land of the free, it allows those of us with nothing more than a high school education, (most of the U.S.,) to believe that if we continue to pray to a stolen diety, we have a chance at the magic salvation provided by our imaginations and enforced by crap games like Tales of Vesperia to bring beauty into existence. Gaming is nothing more than escape, which it has been since the mid-80's. All I ask for is a touch of reality. Tales of Vesperia will do nothing more than keep the blind sightless. And yes, it's that obvious in the demo. The full release of the game will do nothing to sway me.SkullcandyWas this post spose to make me laugh or are you serious?
I'm not buying it, so don't worry. The recent RECESSION, (though Americans still won't admit it,) has me pinching pennies with the best of the semites. Oops, did I offend? My 360 is going to my son who lives with his mother in the god-awful bible belt south. Ignorance will always be king in the land of the free, it allows those of us with nothing more than a high school education, (most of the U.S.,) to believe that if we continue to pray to a stolen diety, we have a chance at the magic salvation provided by our imaginations and enforced by crap games like Tales of Vesperia to bring beauty into existence. Gaming is nothing more than escape, which it has been since the mid-80's. All I ask for is a touch of reality. Tales of Vesperia will do nothing more than keep the blind sightless. And yes, it's that obvious in the demo. The full release of the game will do nothing to sway me.Skullcandy
Though I agree on behalf of America's instability recently, you're preaching to the wrong choir. This is a community full of GAMERS. The person asked about the demo to a certain game, and you immediately start bashing, furthermore you involve America, which has NOTHING to do with the game.
Don't become hostile when somebody likes the game. We find some games compelling, and some not, and our tastes vary.
As with the beer and marijuana comment, YOU'RE NO BETTER than America. You are the epitomy of one of the reasons as to why this country is at a downfall. We are over-run by abusers and alcoholics. I'm sorry that you find yourself in a negative position in life. But, go figure, maybe if you didn't smoke all that pot and drink so much, you would have been more successful. Better yet, MOVE the hell out. I, myself plan on moving to Japan, but I never start posting on forums as to why I hate the country.
So why don't you do us a favor and get off the forums? Seriously. Nobody is taking your side completely, and this is going to get you nothing save for negative feedback.
Thank you.
Ehem. As far as JRPGs go, I do feel as if they are losing their touch. Though I have yet to play the demo of this game (went on the topic to see what people thought), so I have nothing to say about it.
Weak demo. Graphics were "pretty and vibrant" but where was the tutorial?! So you MUST be a fan to know how the control works or something? But then again, isnt this the first Tales game on the 360? Hmm odd, FAIL. I was really interested in this game but the demo killed it for me. I also though the canine smoking on a pipe was tasteless humor. I prefer turn-based.
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The lack of a tutorial was also the only thing that bothered me. You need to remember that they throw you into the game at level 20 so I imagine you are already so many hours into the game. With that said, all the tutorials would most likely be at the very start instead of late in the game at level 20. It took me 3 runs through the game to get a good feel for the combat system and the strategy behind the game.
I'm not buying it, so don't worry. The recent RECESSION, (though Americans still won't admit it,) has me pinching pennies with the best of the semites. Oops, did I offend? My 360 is going to my son who lives with his mother in the god-awful bible belt south. Ignorance will always be king in the land of the free, it allows those of us with nothing more than a high school education, (most of the U.S.,) to believe that if we continue to pray to a stolen diety, we have a chance at the magic salvation provided by our imaginations and enforced by crap games like Tales of Vesperia to bring beauty into existence. Gaming is nothing more than escape, which it has been since the mid-80's. All I ask for is a touch of reality. Tales of Vesperia will do nothing more than keep the blind sightless. And yes, it's that obvious in the demo. The full release of the game will do nothing to sway me.Skullcandy
I will address certain statements and provide observations in no logical order.
1. You suck at witty irreverent humor. I do agree that the Tales series has always been mediocre when compared to other JRPG franchises (Persona, specifically). In gameplay and theme/style/setting/plot/etc. the Tales series has always been uninventive. I think, in general, this is a consistent criticism for the current state of JRPGs. There are a lot of factors that have contributed to this stagnation, but you're not really interested in an objective and considerate discussion, are you?
2. You're a douchebag (and this is really the pot calling the kettle black).
3. If you really hated America, you would have purchased a Playstation.
4.In fact, MOST Americans harp on about recession and the state of the U.S. economy. Look up the definition for recession, then research statistics (focusing on quarterly profits and growth). There's a really big surprise in there for you.
5. Yes, because populations can be defined by their region in our increasingly interrelated world.
6. The majority of citizens in developed nations have no more than a college degree or comparable vocational training. What, do you think all Frenchmen walk around reading Sartre and carrying on in their vastly superior intellectual banter, smoking cigarettes, and eating crepes while the American tourist digs in his ass directly before picking his nose with the same finger? Talk about blind eurocentrism. Ignorance tends to be king in the land of the Homosapien in general, while ignorance is more noticeably muted in North America and Europe than in other regions.
7. the DEITY (yeah, discussing scholarly topics requires correct grammar.. go figure) was never stolen. Christianity, historically, was a Judaic sect which was eventually adopted by Western culture through the Edict of Milan in the 4th century C.E. by Constantine I. Thus, as with other religions, the basic theological doctrine expanded beyond the Middle East. This was simply development. Obviously, Constantine did not adopt Christianity for innocent reasons. Interestingly, you probably cannot tell me WHY his reasons were not innocent. For well-informed Atheists (like myself), there is little seperation between the three dominant Monotheistic religions (four if you include the archaic Zoroastrianism/Mazdaism). You simply adopt this grandiose seperation to accomodate your reactionary (and offensive) ideas (funny how you're the predictable type, huh?) You've tried so hard in this thread, but you're obviously little more than a reactionary devil's advocate. You need to study Theology and World Religions before making statements about said topics unless you WANT to sound like an idiot. You're conclusion of WHY people subscribe to religious faith and doctrine, while cute in a "15 year old with a Crass shirt" kind of way, is exasperatingly obtuse. Psychology and Sociology play an important role in understanding religion.
8. Yes, because video games haven't presented themselves as artistic mediums with increasing regularity over the past 2 decades. You refer to them as an escape, and then ask for a touch of realism. Video games are not intended to be realistic, good job on playing devil's advocate again. Good job on being predictable AGAIN. Yes! Life is not point A to point B. Life can be demanding, stressful, suffocating, etc. For the lucky few who are provided with the resources (see: trust fund babies) to avoid the circumstances that most of us are subject to, this often isn't the case. Video games are intended to be simplistic, especially considering the age gap between members of the industry's demographic. Some games will be produced with certain age groups in mind, but most will generally appeal to the vast majority of "gamers." That's inevitable. Seriously, are you undertaking the arduous work to attain a M.A.? No, you're working full-time, you're a grown up, and you need big boy games with big boy guns and big boy realism mixed with big boy Christ-Rambo complex fantasies.
9. Dude, you have a kid? So you're NOT a 15 year old Punk kid in a Crass t-shirt reading Alexander Berkman? Seriously man, that kind of zealous criticism is best left with our adolescent personalities.
10. Though you will never be aware of this due to your dueling arrogance and obvious inferiority complex, you represent the opposite end of the spectrum. You see, the world is not split up into those whom subscribe to religion and social norms and those whom are intelligent; culture is not that simple (duh). You can subscribe to anything with naivity and ignorance, and you can defend any opinions or belief with uninformed dedication..
11. The purpose of being exceptionally intelligent is not to adopt a pompous and confrontational disposition towards other people. What do you think I mean by this?
12. It is called the "veil of ignorance." Not the "veil of stupidity." It is a concept created byt the philosopher and ethicist John Rawls. In fact, this veil of ignorance does not specifically warrant negative effects. See how scholarly concepts can be raped by laymen?
Seriously, I know you're a troll, and I know people have already chastised you. I didn't think they were complete enough. Though you aren't replying, you are reading every reply, and we know it. Remember when I said you were predictable?
Maybe instead of getting your rocks off to this reply (like you probably have from reading other replies), you will read it with decreasing self-confidence and a physically tangible sense of ego loss.
Hahaha!
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