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Lol, wait.. You're blaming a world wide problem on me? Oo.. In my experiences, ALL 360's will do it at some point. This is our third 360, and all of them have left atleast small scratches on disks. And this is only the second disk that this 360 has scratched, but even one is completely unacceptable, ESPECIALLY since these disks cost about $70 after tax...if you knew it was breaking games though why would you keep putting games in it?
Gen007
The only way discs get ruined in a 360 is if you move it while they are running. It says not to do that in big bold letters. Sorry, but it sounds like to me you are blaming the wrong people.HilbillyRokstarNope, BF:BC2 got scratched while the console was perfectly still. And almost all of our games have small circle scratches on them from some point or another when the consoles were not moving at all.. Battlefield 3 got scratched when my son bumped his 360, but even that is unacceptable, since all that it takes is a pinhead size piece of rubber for Microsoft to fix the problem! I guess that they want to inflate their game sales numbers, because that tiny piece of rubber is still nowhere to be found...
[QUOTE="Gen007"]Lol, wait.. You're blaming a world wide problem on me? Oo.. In my experiences, ALL 360's will do it at some point. This is our third 360, and all of them have left atleast small scratches on disks. And this is only the second disk that this 360 has scratched, but even one is completely unacceptable, ESPECIALLY since these disks cost about $70 after tax...if you knew it was breaking games though why would you keep putting games in it?
superclocked
im not blaming you but you said it ate one his games before so it could only be expected that it would happen again. Also it dosent happen to every 360 at some point especially not the new ones. Plenty of people have game countless hours on their 360s without having games destroyed.
The price of games is my whole point too. 360s are dirt cheap now and the games quickly end up being worth more than the system itself why would you risk 1 or more games in a system that you know could be damaging them?
Your son isn't old enough to be playing Battlefield 3 if he cried when it broke....JC346Yea, it kinda begs the question. How old is the little online killer/warmonger?
Your son isn't old enough to be playing Battlefield 3 if he cried when it broke....JC346He started playing first person shooters on the XBox 360 when he was 3 =P
[QUOTE="JC346"]Your son isn't old enough to be playing Battlefield 3 if he cried when it broke....HilbillyRokstarYea, it kinda begs the question. How old is the little online killer/warmonger? He's only 8, but he's mastered first person shooters. He usually gets first place on the scoreboard. Hell, he started off playing Halo on Legendary...
[QUOTE="JC346"]Your son isn't old enough to be playing Battlefield 3 if he cried when it broke....superclockedHe started playing first person shooters on the XBox 360 when he was 3 =POh please, that's ridiculous. :lol:
He started playing first person shooters on the XBox 360 when he was 3 =POh please, that's ridiculous. :lol:Jealous much? lol.. He started off playing Halo on Legedary btw, when he was 3 =P[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="JC346"]Your son isn't old enough to be playing Battlefield 3 if he cried when it broke....HilbillyRokstar
[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]Oh please, that's ridiculous. :lol:Jealous much? lol.. He started off playing Halo on Legedary btw =PNot really. Poor parenting is nothing to be proud/jealous of. How long before you introduce him to alcohol and tobacco products? Or have you already?[QUOTE="superclocked"]He started playing first person shooters on the XBox 360 when he was 3 =Psuperclocked
Lol, wait.. You're blaming a world wide problem on me? Oo.. In my experiences, ALL 360's will do it at some point. This is our third 360, and all of them have left atleast small scratches on disks. And this is only the second disk that this 360 has scratched, but even one is completely unacceptable, ESPECIALLY since these disks cost about $70 after tax...[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Gen007"]
if you knew it was breaking games though why would you keep putting games in it?
Gen007
im not blaming you but you said it ate one his games before so it could only be expected that it would happen again. Also it dosent happen to every 360 at some point especially not the new ones. Plenty of people have game countless hours on their 360s without having games destroyed.
The price of games is my whole point too. 360s are dirt cheap now and the games quickly end up being worth more than the system itself why would you risk 1 or more games in a system that you know could be damaging them?
They don't always destroy disks, but almost all of our games have small scratches from 3 different versions of the 360...Jealous much? lol.. He started off playing Halo on Legedary btw =PNot really. Poor parenting is nothing to be proud/jealous of. How long before you introduce him to alcohol and tobacco products? Or have you already?He's over alcohol and tobacco. He's moved onto heroin already.. Seriously though, it's funny how fast Microsoft employees and/or their lemmings come into a thread to bash the thread creator for stating a simple truth. It would only take a fraction of a cent to fix the problem...[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]Oh please, that's ridiculous. :lol:
HilbillyRokstar
Jealous much? lol.. He started off playing Halo on Legedary btw =PNot really. Poor parenting is nothing to be proud/jealous of. How long before you introduce him to alcohol and tobacco products? Or have you already? :lol: :lol: Someone has strict parents[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]Oh please, that's ridiculous. :lol:
HilbillyRokstar
And why do I look stupid again? BTW, the Lemmings are the ones trolling in this thread...bringing terms from SW in here.
either you're a troll or you've done the best job of making yourself look stupid.
HavocV3
I usually take the 360's side in System Wars, but it's a damn shame that people are defending Microsoft for not taking action against a known problem...bringing terms from SW in here.
either you're a troll or you've done the best job of making yourself look stupid.
HavocV3
[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]Not really. Poor parenting is nothing to be proud/jealous of. How long before you introduce him to alcohol and tobacco products? Or have you already? :lol: :lol: Someone has strict parentsOr a very sheltered childhood. Both equally as sad...[QUOTE="superclocked"]Jealous much? lol.. He started off playing Halo on Legedary btw =PKHAndAnime
[QUOTE="JC346"]Your son isn't old enough to be playing Battlefield 3 if he cried when it broke....superclockedHe started playing first person shooters on the XBox 360 when he was 3 =P That goes a long way to explain why I don't play on XBL. Too many crying children.
[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="JC346"]Your son isn't old enough to be playing Battlefield 3 if he cried when it broke....RandoIphHe started playing first person shooters on the XBox 360 when he was 3 =P That goes a long way to explain why I don't play on XBL. Too many crying children.Lol, yeah.. I won't let him use the Live headset for a number of reasons, and that's definitely one of them...
[QUOTE="HavocV3"]And why do I look stupid again? BTW, the Lemmings are the ones trolling in this thread...bringing terms from SW in here.
either you're a troll or you've done the best job of making yourself look stupid.
superclocked
"Nope, BF:BC2 got scratched while the console was perfectly still. And almost all of our games have small circle scratches on them from some point or another when the consoles were not moving at all.."
instead of solving the problem, we'll keep throwing the Xbox 360, *which happens to have a suspect disc drive*, more games and let it ruin them.
the people here have most likely never dealt with a 360 that ruins games. all the while it's common knowledge that you have to shake it or tip it over to force it to ruin them. Your case is more of a rarity than you'd like to believe.
you're also trying too hard to directly correlate it with the other scenario. both scenarios scratch discs, but one involves a 360 where the disc drive is faulty while the other involves a 360 that's been tipped over/shaken while the drive was running.
not that this is an excuse for them to avoid improvement of their console....but c'mon. if it's suspect...you don't keep giving it more games to ruin.
And why do I look stupid again? BTW, the Lemmings are the ones trolling in this thread...[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="HavocV3"]
bringing terms from SW in here.
either you're a troll or you've done the best job of making yourself look stupid.
HavocV3
"Nope, BF:BC2 got scratched while the console was perfectly still. And almost all of our games have small circle scratches on them from some point or another when the consoles were not moving at all.."
instead of solving the problem, we'll keep throwing the Xbox 360, *which happens to have a suspect disc drive*, more games and let it ruin them.
the people here have most likely never dealt with a 360 that ruins games and it's pretty much common knowledge that you have to shake it or tip it over to force it to ruin them. your case is more of a rarity than you'd like to believe.
you're just trying too hard to directly correlate it with the other scenario. both scenarios scratch discs, but one involves a 360 where the disc drive is faulty while the other involves a 360 that's been tipped over/shaken while the drive was running.
Consoles, as in the plural form of console. We've had 3, all of which left tiny little circular scratches on the disks that didn't affect gameplay. And I mainly just wanted to come on here and vent about the problem anyway. Regardles though, I still think that Microsoft should put the rubber piece in the drive and prevent the problem altogether. None of our other consoles have ever scratched a disk btw, no matter what we did to them...I agree. If the TC knew that the Xbox was faulty then he shouldn't have continued to use it. At the very least it should have been called in to have the drive replaced. It really isn't MS's fault the TC's kid is crying, that lies directly with him.not that this is an excuse for them to avoid improvement of their console....but c'mon. if it's suspect...you don't keep giving it more games to ruin.
HavocV3
Well did you move the xbox? I have had a few xboxs and not one ever scratched any of my disks. Same with my brothers xboxs and my friends. They don't scratch disks unless you move it.
I agree. If the TC knew that the Xbox was faulty then he shouldn't have continued to use it. At the very least it should have been called in to have the drive replaced. It really isn't MS's fault the TC's kid is crying, that lies directly with him.Microsoft should spend the fraction of a penny and fix the problem. Seriously, I'm surprised that people aren't launching class action lawsuits against them. Oh, wait.. People are![QUOTE="HavocV3"]
not that this is an excuse for them to avoid improvement of their console....but c'mon. if it's suspect...you don't keep giving it more games to ruin.
heretrix
I used to say the same thing defending the 360. But now that I've had 3x 360's, I know the truth. Yes, the 360 got bumped when it scratched BF3. But with BF:BC2, the 360 was just sitting there. Maybe it only happens when the system is standing up? I'm not sure really, but all 3x of our systems have left atleast tiny little circular scratches on disks. This is the first one to completely destroy disks though...Well did you move the xbox? I have had a few xboxs and not one ever scratched any of my disks. Same with my brothers xboxs and my friends. They don't scratch disks unless you move it.
SouL-Tak3R
[QUOTE="heretrix"]I agree. If the TC knew that the Xbox was faulty then he shouldn't have continued to use it. At the very least it should have been called in to have the drive replaced. It really isn't MS's fault the TC's kid is crying, that lies directly with him.Microsoft should spend the fraction of a penny and fix the problem. Seriously, I'm surprised that people aren't launching class action lawsuits against them. Oh, wait.. People are!That's not the point. You are preaching to the choir about the shoddy hardware, but it's no one's fault but your own that you didn't make sure you had this issue resolved before Christmas. You can't blame MS because you failed to take action on a problem you knew existed well before today. You are every bit at fault as MS is.[QUOTE="HavocV3"]
not that this is an excuse for them to avoid improvement of their console....but c'mon. if it's suspect...you don't keep giving it more games to ruin.
superclocked
Man up.
Microsoft should spend the fraction of a penny and fix the problem. Seriously, I'm surprised that people aren't launching class action lawsuits against them. Oh, wait.. People are!That's not the point. You are preaching to the choir about the shoddy hardware, but it's no one's fault but your own that you didn't make sure you had this issue resolved before Christmas. You can't blame MS because you failed to take action on a problem you knew existed well before today. You are every bit at fault as MS is.[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="heretrix"]I agree. If the TC knew that the Xbox was faulty then he shouldn't have continued to use it. At the very least it should have been called in to have the drive replaced. It really isn't MS's fault the TC's kid is crying, that lies directly with him.
heretrix
Man up.
Sigh, another person that didn't read my posts.. Like I said, maybe it's because the 360's were standing up? I'm not sure, but ALL 3x of our 360's scratched disks, even if most of the scratches aren't bad enough to ruin the disks. But whatever, people are just throwing around unsults and trolling now, so whatever...[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"][QUOTE="wwervin"]1. I've had my original Xbox 360 for years and it's never given me a single problem. It should not be "eating" games unless you're doing something to it. My guess is either moving the thing while the disc is spinning or you have it sitting vertically (which it sometimes affects the discs). 2. You can install games on your HDD, yet again solving your issue. 3. If it already "ate" a game before, why not get it looked at or get a new one? Seems like you knew about this problem and could have done something about it. 4. Like somebody else said, your kid shouldn't be playing BF if he's 8 years old and crying over a broken game. 5. No offense, but complaining about your crying kid on a gaming message board is a bit much. What did you expect us to say?superclockedBecause he's obviously looking for someone else to blame. He's not here to find a solution to problem. If he were, he already would be using the HDD as a solution, rather than allowing more game to be ruined by his child/360.Like I said, I came here to vent. Way to help out your fellow man by throwing around insults and denying that there is indeed a problem! I'll help my fellow man. The problem is you, not anyone else. After it ate 1 disc, you instead of having it replaced by your warranty, you decided to put another disc in it and having the Xbox eat yet another game. Then you decided to come on here and complain about it. If you put your hand over fire and burn yourself, would you do it again? Learn from your mistakes and make a better judgement call based on them.
[QUOTE="heretrix"]That's not the point. You are preaching to the choir about the shoddy hardware, but it's no one's fault but your own that you didn't make sure you had this issue resolved before Christmas. You can't blame MS because you failed to take action on a problem you knew existed well before today. You are every bit at fault as MS is.[QUOTE="superclocked"]Microsoft should spend the fraction of a penny and fix the problem. Seriously, I'm surprised that people aren't launching class action lawsuits against them. Oh, wait.. People are!superclocked
Man up.
Sigh, another person that didn't read my posts.. Like I said, maybe it's because the 360's were standing up? I'm not sure, but ALL 3x of our 360's scratched disks, even if most of the scratches aren't bad enough to ruin the disks. But whatever, people are just throwing around unsults and trolling now, so whatever...It was pretty much established a long time ago that standing up the console wasn't a good idea.
Listen dude, I'm not insulting you, but it's pretty clear that you don't want to take any responsibility for "ruining" your sons Christmas. That's your problem. Bottom line you knew there was an issue and you kept using the machine. having an xbox scratch your disks is not a good thing in any capacity. I've had 3 Xboxes (2 pros and an Elite which I still use) and I've never had a scratched disk. I've used them all lying them down so maybe having your your xbox standing up is the problem. Maybe it's something you should have researched.
[QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"][QUOTE="JC346"]Your son isn't old enough to be playing Battlefield 3 if he cried when it broke....superclockedYea, it kinda begs the question. How old is the little online killer/warmonger? He's only 8, but he's mastered first person shooters. He usually gets first place on the scoreboard. Hell, he started off playing Halo on Legendary...
Only 8 and playing BF 3? I can't tell you how to raise your kids, couldn't even if I had my own, but it doesn't matter how mature they are, that's way to young to play a game like BF3. Put him on COD, at least he'll be playing with kids his age.
God we have 2 people saying that they have broken Xbox's.. What are you guys doing to them? Almost everybody I know has a Xbox 360 and NONE of them have broken.. My brother still has the Pro and it hasn't broken. And why is an 8 year old playing BF3? Even if he's really good at it..
He's only 8, but he's mastered first person shooters. He usually gets first place on the scoreboard. Hell, he started off playing Halo on Legendary...[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="HilbillyRokstar"]Yea, it kinda begs the question. How old is the little online killer/warmonger? Xeogua
Only 8 and playing BF 3? I can't tell you how to raise your kids, couldn't even if I had my own, but it doesn't matter how mature they are, that's way to young to play a game like BF3. Put him on COD, at least he'll be playing with kids his age.
Don't you dare challenge his parenting skills!!!!You either!!!God we have 2 people saying that they have broken Xbox's.. What are you guys doing to them? Almost everybody I know has a Xbox 360 and NONE of them have broken.. My brother still has the Pro and it hasn't broken. And why is an 8 year old playing BF3? Even if he's really good at it..
Wolfetan
Well, it wasn't JUST venting. I'm also making people aware that the newer 360's still scratch disks, even though the console has been out for ages. Someone even made a Youtube video of how easy the problem is to fix with a small piece of rubber, but you have to void the warranty and open the disk drive to do it. My son's 360 ate two games within a months time. That's just flatout UNACCEPTABLE, especially since it's been a known problem for several years... superclockedThere are 2 ways your disk could have been scratched by the 360. 1) You pushed in the disk tray instead of using the touch-buttons - this jerks the dodgy disk drive and scratches the disk. 2) You moved the console while playing. Its not much help now, but I suggest you tell your son to install every single game before he plays it, so even if the disk does get scratched he can still play. I'm just speculating here, but I'm thinking that you push in the disk drive to close it, that or you have at some point, and you might have jerked the disk drive out of position. 8 isn't really suitable for most FPSs I think. On the bright side, BF3 Campaign is crap, so your son didn't miss much. Take the game back to the store and see if they will refund/replace it. They did for me with my first game that I bought for my 360, because I wasn't warned about the problem and I didn't even move the 360. Since then I've never experienced the problem again, because I install all my games and I never move the 360 while its on.
[QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"]I used to say the same thing defending the 360. But now that I've had 3x 360's, I know the truth. Yes, the 360 got bumped when it scratched BF3. But with BF:BC2, the 360 was just sitting there. Maybe it only happens when the system is standing up? I'm not sure really, but all 3x of our systems have left atleast tiny little circular scratches on disks. This is the first one to completely destroy disks though... Keep the 360 horizontal. Circle scratches occur when spinning disks enter the drive. I've heard that these can be repaired though - take the game to a shop to see if they can repair the disks.Well did you move the xbox? I have had a few xboxs and not one ever scratched any of my disks. Same with my brothers xboxs and my friends. They don't scratch disks unless you move it.
superclocked
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