They ban me for a month for this?

I know the code of conduct implies you may not use bad language in your motto/bio, but it doesn't say as a reference.

I've put a Duke Nukem slogan in my bio some time ago and never looked back, now some strange people are searching through my account for no apparent reason and decide to flag me because i have this slogan in my bio?

and i get banned for a month for this? If microsoft is putting these rules then why sell games in which you're able to use a reference as i did in which the code of conduct doesn't count?

and the worst part is that they won't let me contact them, don't think i'm upset by this... i can do without a monthbut i find it strange for microsoft to be a hypocrite like this.

Considering some of the things I've seen it does seem harsh. Just the same I'm please overall to have them banning someone for something.

Every night I see someone with offensive gamer tag, clan tag or one of those glitch, button names that are nasty and hateful. I'm not easily offended and cussing doesn't bother me at all, but some of them I think should be banned.

Listening to this, I don't think it seems like you should have been banned, my sympathies.

you got an XBOX LIVE moderator angry and they did an investigation on yor account, thats what really happened. It happens fronm time to time, these Mods can be harsh.

I know the code of conduct implies you may not use bad language in your motto/bio, but it doesn't say as a reference.

DutchDoc

Oh c'mon pal!

It's like saying:

"You said I can't punch you in the face, but you didn't say I can't punch you in the face if I'm wearing a yellow shirt...." :roll:

No bad language means no bad language dude...it really isn't that difficult to understand you know. In fact, it's kinda hilarious that you made a thread which advertises the fact that you didn't understand a basic rule :lol:

If you're cursing like a truck driver, and mouthing off to the point of distraction in-game, I would understand a ban. To reference a game, maybe not. It would depend on the quote. I mean, it's not like you were quoting the lyrics of some grindcore band.. a game couldn't have warranted a ban.

It was just a reference i put in my bio when i wasn't even an adult, i just never looked back.
and now after a couple of years they decided to ban me all of a sudden.

Couldn'tthey at least give me a warning of some sort to change or remove it?

To the above poster, i indeed heard that some mods are put off easilyand/orcorrupt like "ThePro" or something like that. Don't know for sure but that's what i've heard.

Still it's nonsense, i pay for LIVE meaning i'm one of the contributors keeping the service alive and now some douchebag decides to give me the full judgement instead of giving me a warning first.

i don't freaking care if there's nothing in my bio, if references are not allowed either then just give me a message or something.

[QUOTE="DutchDoc"]

I know the code of conduct implies you may not use bad language in your motto/bio, but it doesn't say as a reference.

KlepticGrooves

Oh c'mon pal!

It's like saying:

"You said I can't punch you in the face, but you didn't say I can't punch you in the face if I'm wearing a yellow shirt...." :roll:

No bad language means no bad language dude...it really isn't that difficult to understand you know. In fact, it's kinda hilarious that you made a thread which advertises the fact that you didn't understand a basic rule :lol:

hold on hold on

If Microsoft was selling media be it a video or game in which you can punch a guy in the face then banning me for using it as a reference in my bio and saying it was against the rule?

If you put up these rules and sell games in which they are broken but justified by the code of conduct but not by the buyer then the rule isn't legit.

All I can say is that I get sooo pissed off while playing COD or Halo online, I talk so much trash. I'm not proud of it but, yeah, I'm surprised I haven't been banned.

Oh c'mon pal!

It's like saying:

"You said I can't punch you in the face, but you didn't say I can't punch you in the face if I'm wearing a yellow shirt...." :roll:

No bad language means no bad language dude...it really isn't that difficult to understand you know. In fact, it's kinda hilarious that you made a thread which advertises the fact that you didn't understand a basic rule :lol:

KlepticGrooves

That's a silly way of thinking, KlepticGrooves. If you want Microsoft to trample all over your freedom of speech than that's fine, but they don't really have the right and some ridiculous "Code of Conduct" certainly does not give them the power to impose a stringent "anti-bad language" campaign. The very argument is preposterous in and of itself when you take into account how many f-bombs and n'ers and a'holes you encounter while playing any videogame on Live. Don't defend censorship (like the nazi's). Give a moderator a little bit of power and they lock threads everywhere and ban people's accounts (which they payed for) on Live. Awesome!

What was the quote? If it was something that said a bunch of bad words I guess I could understand why they banned you, but if it was just something like Sh*t that thing's ugly!" then they probably had almost no reason to ban you.

[QUOTE="KlepticGrooves"]

Oh c'mon pal!

It's like saying:

"You said I can't punch you in the face, but you didn't say I can't punch you in the face if I'm wearing a yellow shirt...." :roll:

No bad language means no bad language dude...it really isn't that difficult to understand you know. In fact, it's kinda hilarious that you made a thread which advertises the fact that you didn't understand a basic rule :lol:

Tripleseed

That's a silly way of thinking, KlepticGrooves. If you want Microsoft to trample all over your freedom of speech than that's fine, but they don't really have the right and some ridiculous "Code of Conduct" certainly does not give them the power to impose a stringent "anti-bad language" campaign. The very argument is preposterous in and of itself when you take into account how many f-bombs and n'ers and a'holes you encounter while playing any videogame on Live. Don't defend censorship (like the nazi's). Give a moderator a little bit of power and they lock threads everywhere and ban people's accounts (which they payed for) on Live. Awesome!

Sure, the rule is probably unjust - but it's in place anyway. As such, I find it strange how the OP is seemingly suprised that he was banned.

[QUOTE="KlepticGrooves"]

Oh c'mon pal!

It's like saying:

"You said I can't punch you in the face, but you didn't say I can't punch you in the face if I'm wearing a yellow shirt...." :roll:

No bad language means no bad language dude...it really isn't that difficult to understand you know. In fact, it's kinda hilarious that you made a thread which advertises the fact that you didn't understand a basic rule :lol:

Tripleseed

That's a silly way of thinking, KlepticGrooves. If you want Microsoft to trample all over your freedom of speech than that's fine, but they don't really have the right and some ridiculous "Code of Conduct" certainly does not give them the power to impose a stringent "anti-bad language" campaign. The very argument is preposterous in and of itself when you take into account how many f-bombs and n'ers and a'holes you encounter while playing any videogame on Live. Don't defend censorship (like the nazi's). Give a moderator a little bit of power and they lock threads everywhere and ban people's accounts (which they payed for) on Live. Awesome!

You willfully gave them that right when you agreed to the terms of use when you set up the account. If you don't like the rule, don't sign up.

It's not rocket science.

Speaking of which.. deciding what's offensive and what's not isn't a science at all. There are no bots the troll bios and game session for offending words. If there's a complaint, they research it on a case-by-case.

Just because you got away with breaking a rule doesn't entitle you to some right to continue breaking that rule.

you got an XBOX LIVE moderator angry and they did an investigation on yor account, thats what really happened. It happens fronm time to time, these Mods can be harsh.

DranzarTypeF

[QUOTE="Tripleseed"]

[QUOTE="KlepticGrooves"]

Oh c'mon pal!

It's like saying:

"You said I can't punch you in the face, but you didn't say I can't punch you in the face if I'm wearing a yellow shirt...." :roll:

No bad language means no bad language dude...it really isn't that difficult to understand you know. In fact, it's kinda hilarious that you made a thread which advertises the fact that you didn't understand a basic rule :lol:

VoodooHak

That's a silly way of thinking, KlepticGrooves. If you want Microsoft to trample all over your freedom of speech than that's fine, but they don't really have the right and some ridiculous "Code of Conduct" certainly does not give them the power to impose a stringent "anti-bad language" campaign. The very argument is preposterous in and of itself when you take into account how many f-bombs and n'ers and a'holes you encounter while playing any videogame on Live. Don't defend censorship (like the nazi's). Give a moderator a little bit of power and they lock threads everywhere and ban people's accounts (which they payed for) on Live. Awesome!

You willfully gave them that right when you agreed to the terms of use when you set up the account. If you don't like the rule, don't sign up.

It's not rocket science.

Speaking of which.. deciding what's offensive and what's not isn't a science at all. There are no bots the troll bios and game session for offending words. If there's a complaint, they research it on a case-by-case.

Just because you got away with breaking a rule doesn't entitle you to some right to continue breaking that rule.

Seriously you can't be 100% serious

There are mods who abuse their power but i don't see them being thrown off their throne of power. For example: "ThePro" just look it up on youtube they guy has complaints from different people who pay for their LIVE accounts.

And as i said, i used it as a reference... it's not like i put it there to piss random people off, i put it there because i had a good few laughs of it when i was young and played the darn game.

still i can't figure out why they just don't send me a warning first as this "ThePro" as well claims but doesn't.

You willfully gave them that right when you agreed to the terms of use when you set up the account. If you don't like the rule, don't sign up.

It's not rocket science.

Speaking of which.. deciding what's offensive and what's not isn't a science at all. There are no bots the troll bios and game session for offending words. If there's a complaint, they research it on a case-by-case.

Just because you got away with breaking a rule doesn't entitle you to some right to continue breaking that rule.

VoodooHak

Your argument is stale. The terms of use is often seen as something more than it is. I never "willfully" gave them the right to do anything. In reality, they try to impose their self-entitled "rights" on you without giving you any option to speak otherwise. This is not only unconstitutional, but it is unjust. It's not rocket science (jackass), it's common God damn sense! I never claimed there were bots in place, either. You clearly misinterpreted my message.

I pissed off a GTA developer before and nothing happened lol

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

You willfully gave them that right when you agreed to the terms of use when you set up the account. If you don't like the rule, don't sign up.

It's not rocket science.

Speaking of which.. deciding what's offensive and what's not isn't a science at all. There are no bots the troll bios and game session for offending words. If there's a complaint, they research it on a case-by-case.

Just because you got away with breaking a rule doesn't entitle you to some right to continue breaking that rule.

Tripleseed

Your argument is stale. The terms of use is often seen as something more than it is. I never "willfully" gave them the right to do anything. In reality, they try to impose their self-entitled "rights" on you without giving you any option to speak otherwise. This is not only unconstitutional, but it is unjust. It's not rocket science (jackass), it's common God damn sense! I never claimed there were bots in place, either. You clearly misinterpreted my message.

My argument is as stale as your argument is ignorant.

You definitely DID give them the right to moderate their service as they see fit, and take action at their discretion. You agreed to it in order to activate your account. They gave you the option and spelled it out in black and white. How hard is that to understand?

Agree to the terms, then welcome to the service.

Don't agree to the terms, then look elsewhere.

No. It's not rocket science. It requires the ability to read and tiny bit of comprehension to understand what you're getting yourself into.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="Tripleseed"]

That's a silly way of thinking, KlepticGrooves. If you want Microsoft to trample all over your freedom of speech than that's fine, but they don't really have the right and some ridiculous "Code of Conduct" certainly does not give them the power to impose a stringent "anti-bad language" campaign. The very argument is preposterous in and of itself when you take into account how many f-bombs and n'ers and a'holes you encounter while playing any videogame on Live. Don't defend censorship (like the nazi's). Give a moderator a little bit of power and they lock threads everywhere and ban people's accounts (which they payed for) on Live. Awesome!

DutchDoc

You willfully gave them that right when you agreed to the terms of use when you set up the account. If you don't like the rule, don't sign up.

It's not rocket science.

Speaking of which.. deciding what's offensive and what's not isn't a science at all. There are no bots the troll bios and game session for offending words. If there's a complaint, they research it on a case-by-case.

Just because you got away with breaking a rule doesn't entitle you to some right to continue breaking that rule.

Seriously you can't be 100% serious

There are mods who abuse their power but i don't see them being thrown off their throne of power. For example: "ThePro" just look it up on youtube they guy has complaints from different people who pay for their LIVE accounts.

And as i said, i used it as a reference... it's not like i put it there to piss random people off, i put it there because i had a good few laughs of it when i was young and played the darn game.

still i can't figure out why they just don't send me a warning first as this "ThePro" as well claims but doesn't.

I followed The Pro drama from start to finish, and know that initially released audio was severely (and unskillfully) edited in favor of the person being banned. Having heard the unedited audio, The Pro was too lenient. That kid's mom at least got a phone call about it. I hope they let her listen to the whole thing.

[QUOTE="KlepticGrooves"]

[QUOTE="DutchDoc"]

I know the code of conduct implies you may not use bad language in your motto/bio, but it doesn't say as a reference.

DutchDoc

Oh c'mon pal!

It's like saying:

"You said I can't punch you in the face, but you didn't say I can't punch you in the face if I'm wearing a yellow shirt...." :roll:

No bad language means no bad language dude...it really isn't that difficult to understand you know. In fact, it's kinda hilarious that you made a thread which advertises the fact that you didn't understand a basic rule :lol:

hold on hold on

If Microsoft was selling media be it a video or game in which you can punch a guy in the face then banning me for using it as a reference in my bio and saying it was against the rule?

If you put up these rules and sell games in which they are broken but justified by the code of conduct but not by the buyer then the rule isn't legit.

This is why games/movies have ratings like E,E10+,T,M,PG,PG-13,R is for the reason of what is contained in that game/movie, but mottos/bios don't have ratings so you have to follow rules. Also common sense(which I know is something that is coming more and more extinct as time goes by) should tell you that if something is referenced or not it doesn't matter as it is against the rules.

I pissed off a GTA developer before and nothing happened lol

N7v1K0

Cool... story... bro...

[QUOTE="DutchDoc"]

[QUOTE="KlepticGrooves"]

Oh c'mon pal!

It's like saying:

"You said I can't punch you in the face, but you didn't say I can't punch you in the face if I'm wearing a yellow shirt...." :roll:

No bad language means no bad language dude...it really isn't that difficult to understand you know. In fact, it's kinda hilarious that you made a thread which advertises the fact that you didn't understand a basic rule :lol:

ghstbstr

hold on hold on

If Microsoft was selling media be it a video or game in which you can punch a guy in the face then banning me for using it as a reference in my bio and saying it was against the rule?

If you put up these rules and sell games in which they are broken but justified by the code of conduct but not by the buyer then the rule isn't legit.

This is why games/movies have ratings like E,E10+,T,M,PG,PG-13,R is for the reason of what is contained in that game/movie, but mottos/bios don't have ratings so you have to follow rules. Also common sense(which I know is something that is coming more and more extinct as time goes by) should tell you that if something is referenced or not it doesn't matter as it is against the rules.

aw come on, those ratings are overrated... if i go to the videostore they don't have warnings for children that "this is the adult section". When i was 5 i've seen the naked ladies on the covers of the dvd boxes so many times i even didn't notice the ratings.

btw if you think microsoft is 100% right all the time then look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQgtTr8eNTo

[QUOTE="ghstbstr"]

[QUOTE="DutchDoc"]

hold on hold on

If Microsoft was selling media be it a video or game in which you can punch a guy in the face then banning me for using it as a reference in my bio and saying it was against the rule?

If you put up these rules and sell games in which they are broken but justified by the code of conduct but not by the buyer then the rule isn't legit.

DutchDoc

This is why games/movies have ratings like E,E10+,T,M,PG,PG-13,R is for the reason of what is contained in that game/movie, but mottos/bios don't have ratings so you have to follow rules. Also common sense(which I know is something that is coming more and more extinct as time goes by) should tell you that if something is referenced or not it doesn't matter as it is against the rules.

aw come on, those ratings are overrated... if i go to the videostore they don't have warnings for children that "this is the adult section". When i was 5 i've seen the naked ladies on the covers of the dvd boxes so many times i even didn't notice the ratings.

btw if you think microsoft is 100% right all the time then look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQgtTr8eNTo

Those ratings are put in place because the content is deemed unsuitable for certain audiences.

Anyway, this thread should be an open-and-shut case. You agreed to not include bad language in your bio/profile when you agreed to the terms and conditions. If you didn't agree with what the rules said, you shouldn't have signed up dude.

I'm baffled as to how you are still arguing your point....

Ok, so what was the quote?shaunchgo

That's a silly way of thinking, KlepticGrooves. If you want Microsoft to trample all over your freedom of speech than that's fine, but they don't really have the right and some ridiculous "Code of Conduct" certainly does not give them the power to impose a stringent "anti-bad language" campaign. The very argument is preposterous in and of itself when you take into account how many f-bombs and n'ers and a'holes you encounter while playing any videogame on Live. Don't defend censorship (like the nazi's). Give a moderator a little bit of power and they lock threads everywhere and ban people's accounts (which they payed for) on Live. Awesome!

Tripleseed

[QUOTE="KlepticGrooves"]

Oh c'mon pal!

It's like saying:

"You said I can't punch you in the face, but you didn't say I can't punch you in the face if I'm wearing a yellow shirt...." :roll:

No bad language means no bad language dude...it really isn't that difficult to understand you know. In fact, it's kinda hilarious that you made a thread which advertises the fact that you didn't understand a basic rule :lol:

Tripleseed

That's a silly way of thinking, KlepticGrooves. If you want Microsoft to trample all over your freedom of speech than that's fine, but they don't really have the right and some ridiculous "Code of Conduct" certainly does not give them the power to impose a stringent "anti-bad language" campaign. The very argument is preposterous in and of itself when you take into account how many f-bombs and n'ers and a'holes you encounter while playing any videogame on Live. Don't defend censorship (like the nazi's). Give a moderator a little bit of power and they lock threads everywhere and ban people's accounts (which they payed for) on Live. Awesome!

Um.... Yes, they do have the right... And yes, their silly Code of Conduct gives them that power... If you don't like it, then don't use their service...

what did it actually say?

was it just like "Fudge you!"

or was it more like "I killed a [insert ethnicity here]"

With Duke Nukem, no doubt it's offensive. Some people more than likely saw it and filed a complaint. You cruised along until you got enough to get their attention. It sucks. You can't do anything offensive even if it's a quote from a game.

honestly dude, you completely deserve it, i mean CoD has swears, and i dont put those in my motto/bio, it isnt that hard to follow the rules

Lesson learned. Life goes on.

Not only could they ban you for a month for that, they can also ban you permanantly for no reason at all.

BTW my vote's on the "I've got balls of steel!" quote.Ilikemyname420

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

You willfully gave them that right when you agreed to the terms of use when you set up the account. If you don't like the rule, don't sign up.

It's not rocket science.

Speaking of which.. deciding what's offensive and what's not isn't a science at all. There are no bots the troll bios and game session for offending words. If there's a complaint, they research it on a case-by-case.

Just because you got away with breaking a rule doesn't entitle you to some right to continue breaking that rule.

Your argument is stale. The terms of use is often seen as something more than it is. I never "willfully" gave them the right to do anything. In reality, they try to impose their self-entitled "rights" on you without giving you any option to speak otherwise. This is not only unconstitutional, but it is unjust. It's not rocket science (jackass), it's common God damn sense! I never claimed there were bots in place, either. You clearly misinterpreted my message.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

You willfully gave them that right when you agreed to the terms of use when you set up the account. If you don't like the rule, don't sign up.

It's not rocket science.

Speaking of which.. deciding what's offensive and what's not isn't a science at all. There are no bots the troll bios and game session for offending words. If there's a complaint, they research it on a case-by-case.

Just because you got away with breaking a rule doesn't entitle you to some right to continue breaking that rule.

Tripleseed

Your argument is stale. The terms of use is often seen as something more than it is. I never "willfully" gave them the right to do anything. In reality, they try to impose their self-entitled "rights" on you without giving you any option to speak otherwise. This is not only unconstitutional, but it is unjust. It's not rocket science (XXXXXX, it's common God XXXX sense! I never claimed there were bots in place, either. You clearly misinterpreted my message.

LMAO at the fact you think a privately run service imposing their rules of conduct is unconstitutional. It's a completely optional service that nobody is forcing you to use. Since you have to agree to their rules prior to using it, that makes it YOUR decision to limit your speech. Last I checked it wasn't possible to violate your own rights. It would only be unconstituional if you were forced to use their service.

A friend of mine got a one day ban for having a bad word in his profile. Only a one day ban so if you got a month than this isnt your first ban for this.

Some information thats been repeatedly asked for in this thread, and it's never been answered: what the quote was, and if you had been reported multiple times in a very short span of time.

By the information you have given, it's obvious you broke the code of conduct, but a month-long ban is outrageous for a first-time mild violation. You wouldn't give a kid an F on a report card for being 20 minutes late to class once. There's a difference between breaking a rule and saying it's wrong to be punished for it, and being punished to an extreme.

Either the whole story isn't here (which I'm guessing is more accurate) or people should be alarmed that Mods aren't being moderated themselves. What would stop Microsoft from banning for non-sensical offenses for 6 months and just pocketing the money?

Someone told me I should change my gamertag because it could get me banned. Don't know how the gamertag "OrangePopsicle1" would get me banned. I don't even have my 360 hooked up to the internet.

Lol. At least you kinda know what you got suspend for. I got suspened for like 3? days, I am not sure why. My motto was "Halo ODST and MW2? Never heard of em" Then I was suspened. I was in a party and didn't send ANYONE messages of hate mail. So I am not sure about that one. Also, why can't you use Code of Conduct as a motto? I do however live in Code of Conductland.