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#1 brandontwb
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Well for starters, you have a pay $60 a year for online, which is rediculous considering there are many advertisments and no dedicated servers. Also, the repuation is inaccurate... Most people, even the really annoying ones, have a 5 star rep...And I get filed against 4 times for leaving about 3 times in my total time of playing Halo!! It's not fair, when people who quit whenever they are losing still have 5 star rep. I also got a report for being disruptive.... which I never am!!

 

While the ads I don't really mind too much, the fact that we are paying for something that is free for Microsoft makes me angry. No dedicated servers. I hate how the person with the best connection gets all the power. I mean in some games the host can end the game whenever he/she wants to make their team win.... It makes me so angry. And when a host leaves in Halo 3 the game it can mess everything up. Also, when there are a lot of people in a custom match for Halo, everything is usually a mess (people yelling before the game and delaying the countdown for no reason, and everything runs REALLY slow for the Party leader too..

 VETO/VOTING

This is the worst in Halo 3. First of all, they don't even let you play a mode you want. You go in lone wolves, you get the extremely unfair oddball and territory thing, which is really unbalanced. Why can't we even get the ability to play what mode we want? And the game loads the map before we even get to decide if we want it or not! Why can't it be more like COD4? The time it takes for Halo 3 to start a freaking game you might as well have everyone vote on a map, like Mario Kart for Wii, which found a game faster than Halo3. Don't get me wrong, when you finally do get in a Halo 3 game that you like, it can be really fun, I just wish it was more like Halo 1 for the comptuer, when you got to play with the same people over and over with mixed teams, and you get to play the mode you want (maps don't matter too much).

 What do you hate about XBL? Get it out!

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#2 karriston
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The other people on it.
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#3 MadMac132
Member since 2008 • 217 Posts

lol, xbl is great.

but yes, it would be so much better if it was free like the playstation network, i dont see much of a reason why not.

yes, the rep system is a bit naff, apparently 20% of the players ive played ever thought i was agressive, and another 20% unsporting. im neither of those! honest

and the community is probably the biggest issue, all the kids who are full of themselves, the people who wont stop singing, the screaming, the racism, and especially little kids who are full of themselves and wont stop singing shouting and being racist.

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#4 OfficialBed
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i like it
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#5 Jaysonguy
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1. People complaining about it

2. People who actually think that 35-50 dollars a year for it is expensive

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#6 RushMetallica
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the price, the bad rep system, and the racism.
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#7 karriston
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1. People complaining about it

2. People who actually think that 35-50 dollars a year for it is expensive

Jaysonguy
Who are you to say what is and isn't expensive for other people?
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#8 rustedMECH
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1. People complaining about it

2. People who actually think that 35-50 dollars a year for it is expensive

Jaysonguy

exactly

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#9 deactivated-64b76bd048860
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I hate the people who complain about the price and the frequent racist remarks that people make on Xbox LIVE.
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#10 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

1. People complaining about it

2. People who actually think that 35-50 dollars a year for it is expensive

karriston

Who are you to say what is and isn't expensive for other people?

If you play games and that is too expensive then you shouldn't play games

The library or other free hobbies is better suited for that sort of financial status

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#11 Dawq902
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the thing i h8 about XBL is the fact that people h8 things about it. What would u do w/o XBL?
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#12 Xeros606
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xbl isnt free for microsoft. they have to buy the servers it uses, pay the people who make it work, pay the people who maintain the servers, and pay the people who make the updates. i dont mind having to pay buy imo $50 a year is a bit much considering the whole thing can be done with a small team of people.

halo has the crappy matchmaking because bungie decided to do it that way. microsoft might have had some say as the publisher, but stuff like that is usually the decision of the dev.

as far as bullet lag and p2p reliability goes, its an overblown problem imo. p2p is okay unless you have a really crappy connection, at which point it wouldnt matter if servers were dedicated. i get annoyed when people whine about miniscule bullet lag. the only games that had horrible bullet lag were gears 1 and tf2.

the only complaints i have about xbox live are that $50 is a bit too much to pay, and the community. its not just trash talk, a lot of people on xbl dont know what teamwork is, and i hate how  the multiplayer of less popular games dies within a month because everyone moves onto the next generic multiplayer shooter. i know graw is more than 2 years old, but its stupid how there is only one or two half full games going at peak hours. most pc games stay alive for years. there are still some servers active for quake.

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#13 Blackhawk692
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um, I'm about 90% sure xbl doesn't use servers
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#14 Andrn
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Mainly the people that go onto forums and make meaningless threads about the so-called "problems" that Live has.
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#15 Doomtime
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Racism, Kids with annoying voices, no dedicated servers.

They should include matchmaking and making your own rooms like in the old games. It just doesnt make any sense to just use one. 

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#16 TarnishedSoul
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People who cry about having to pay $50 a year for it. If you can't afford $50 a year you have definitely got bigger problems to worry about.
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#17 brandontwb
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You hate people who would rather buy a game than unnecessarily pay $60? And I think I have the right to complain considering that I pay in the first place!
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#18 brandontwb
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Mainly the people that go onto forums and make meaningless threads about the so-called "problems" that Live has.Andrn
That's not really about XBL. Why are you even posting here?

 

And also, I can pay $59.99 a year. But still, it is a lot of money that could be used to buy a game. I would understand $20 a year given there are no servers, but $60 is a bit high I think.

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#19 Strider_91
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There are few problems, mainly the people who are abusive when they lose or something lol or even when they win.
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#21 adams_73717
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i when people don't know how to talk on a mic like an adult. or when they have the mic so close to their mic that you can hear them breath. and that you can't understnad them about the $50.00 a month LETS MAKE X BL FREE THE LETS SEE IF MS WILL LET IT GO THE **** STOP **** ABOUT PLAYING $50 A YEAR. THATS LIKE $5.00 A MONTH. i rather pay for it instead of have a good service fall apart.
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#22 Xeros606
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um, I'm about 90% sure xbl doesn't use serversBlackhawk692


it does. where else do they store demos and dlc and the 128 mb NXE download? also, have you ever noticed that once or twice a year they will send you a message saying that xbox live will be down for "routine server maintainance"?
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#23 Icehearted
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Should be free, only the apologists and fanboys try to justify a service like that. What are you paying for?

Stability? Tell that to GeOW2 and Soul Caliber 4 players.

Bonus content? So you played that Mirrors edge demo a little earlier than the rest of us, I can totally see why that's worth the money:roll:.

Community? Nothing says "fun" like being n-bombed for an hour while I try to play a game online.

But I can mute those jerks? Yeah, and MS could ban them. Since they're not paying me to be an enforcer, maybe they should actually earn their money and do what they are being paid for, which is in part (SURPRISE) enforcing their rules.

Special offers? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

The racism is the biggest thing for me. If MS actually did something about it I'd be a lot more inclined to think they wanted to actually earn my money, rather than arbitrarily charge me for poor service.

It's all so laggy, too, which has me thinking that these guys offer the minimal for these premium prices. No need for good servers,  just something passable that a person may or may not be able to log into. They don't really care, or even have to, as long as they get your money, which apparently they do.

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#24 brandontwb
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Should be free, only the apologists and fanboys try to justify a service like that. What are you paying for?

Stability? Tell that to GeOW2 and Soul Caliber 4 players.

Bonus content? So you played that Mirrors edge demo a little earlier than the rest of us, I can totally see why that's worth the money:roll:.

Community? Nothing says "fun" like being n-bombed for an hour while I try to play a game online.

But I can mute those jerks? Yeah, and MS could ban them. Since they're not paying me to be an enforcer, maybe they should actually earn their money and do what they are being paid for, which is in part (SURPRISE) enforcing their rules.

Special offers? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

The racism is the biggest thing for me. If MS actually did something about it I'd be a lot more inclined to think they wanted to actually earn my money, rather than arbitrarily charge me for poor service.

It's all so laggy, too, which has me thinking that these guys offer the minimal for these premium prices. No need for good servers,  just something passable that a person may or may not be able to log into. They don't really care, or even have to, as long as they get your money, which apparently they do.

Icehearted
Not to mention how they charge you for every little thing like pictures for a game you like.
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#25 TarnishedSoul
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No ones forcing you to pay, you choose to. If you don't like it go buy a ps3 and deal with that garbage online service.
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#26 brandontwb
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No ones forcing you to pay, you choose to. If you don't like it go buy a ps3 and deal with that garbage online service.TarnishedSoul
I wonder if PS3`s online is really that bad... I heard it has no ads... Anyways, you`re taking this too seriously, we are just talking about the things that we dont`t like about XBL, so calm down a bit.
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#27 adams_73717
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[QUOTE="TarnishedSoul"]No ones forcing you to pay, you choose to. If you don't like it go buy a ps3 and deal with that garbage online service.brandontwb
I wonder if PS3`s online is really that bad... I heard it has no ads... Anyways, you`re taking this too seriously, we are just talking about the things that we dont`t like about XBL, so calm down a bit.

ms just has adds for games. on my friends ps3 there was a lot of ads from nike, bugle boy. and when we tryed to get in a game we timed out on every game and that was on a 15mb connection. it bothers me that ppl gripe about the price. and i understnad but its just once a year. yes there is some problems with it on some games but thats the dev's servers not ms's
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#28 Icehearted
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No ones forcing you to pay, you choose to. If you don't like it go buy a ps3 and deal with that garbage online service.TarnishedSoul
Oh but they are forcing you to pay. They offer games with built in online features, online achievements, online modes, ets. You can't use these things you have paid for when you bought the game unless you pay for the service, so you are indeed forced to pay for the service to use these features. If I could play my games online without having to pay MS, then I would not be forced, but as it stands the only way to play games online with the Xbox 360 is to pay, which is them forcing me to pay to unlock the game's full experience.
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#29 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="TarnishedSoul"]No ones forcing you to pay, you choose to. If you don't like it go buy a ps3 and deal with that garbage online service.Icehearted
Oh but they are forcing you to pay. They offer games with built in online features, online achievements, online modes, ets. You can't use these things you have paid for when you bought the game unless you pay for the service, so you are indeed forced to pay for the service to use these features. If I could play my games online without having to pay MS, then I would not be forced, but as it stands the only way to play games online with the Xbox 360 is to pay, which is them forcing me to pay to unlock the game's full experience.

Wrong

You're not forced to buy those games

It all comes down to personal responsibility.

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#30 TarnishedSoul
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[QUOTE="TarnishedSoul"]No ones forcing you to pay, you choose to. If you don't like it go buy a ps3 and deal with that garbage online service.Icehearted
Oh but they are forcing you to pay. They offer games with built in online features, online achievements, online modes, ets. You can't use these things you have paid for when you bought the game unless you pay for the service, so you are indeed forced to pay for the service to use these features. If I could play my games online without having to pay MS, then I would not be forced, but as it stands the only way to play games online with the Xbox 360 is to pay, which is them forcing me to pay to unlock the game's full experience.

But no ones forcing you to play your games online. You are going to be screwed when you get out in the real world and realize you have to pay for EVERYTHING because nothing is free. I mean yes the online service for the ps3 is free but my god it sucks hard.

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#31 PlasmaBeam44
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I really hate the people that play online. I was plaiyng Gears 2 last night and some guy on the other team was just dropping f-bombs left and right and screaming about how he was losing. It really ruined my fun.
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[QUOTE="Icehearted"][QUOTE="TarnishedSoul"]No ones forcing you to pay, you choose to. If you don't like it go buy a ps3 and deal with that garbage online service.TarnishedSoul

Oh but they are forcing you to pay. They offer games with built in online features, online achievements, online modes, ets. You can't use these things you have paid for when you bought the game unless you pay for the service, so you are indeed forced to pay for the service to use these features. If I could play my games online without having to pay MS, then I would not be forced, but as it stands the only way to play games online with the Xbox 360 is to pay, which is them forcing me to pay to unlock the game's full experience.

But no ones forcing you to play your games online. You are going to be screwed when you get out in the real world and realize you have to pay for EVERYTHING because nothing is free. I mean yes the online service for the ps3 is free but my god it sucks hard.

and the thing is Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo isn't making you buy their consoles or the games. its your choice and with Microsoft they ASK you to pay for their service just bc thats how they keep their service up and running smoothly

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#33 Icehearted
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What does personal responsibility have to do with anything? I buy a game, I know I can't play the game online, not having a choice is not the same as having a choice and not doing it. If I had a choice in online services for the Xbox 360 and chose to abstain anyway then it would be my choice, but in this case there are none. You either pay to play, or you go without, and that's not a choice, you are forced to do things their way.

In the real world, I would never pay for the privilege of using what I already own. Nothing is free? You should have a look at my blog banner before you start trying to drop a line like that on me ;).  However, since you went there, Windows Live is free, PSN is free, Guild Wars is free, Myspace is free, AIM, MSN, and ICQ are free, there are dozens of free online game services like World Winner, I can view Hulu or South Park Studios, this message board is free, there are a ton of places with free themes for Windows, the last time I checked I didn't have to be a gold anything to play a demo for my PC when it came out any sooner than anyone else, oh, and this free board actually DOES enforce it's policy on racism and harassment. Oh, are none of these a part of the real world? Just checking.

I feel a little sorry for people that feel like they have to defend this service. MS is screwing most of you over, and you'd still stick up for them and this service.

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#34 scaryteddy
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60 dollars a year expensive? Do the math, thats like 6 cents a day.

Unless your into slave labor, this isn't too hard to make. 

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#35 Icehearted
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and the thing is Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo isn't making you buy their consoles or the games. its your choice and with Microsoft they ASK you to pay for their service just bc thats how they keep their service up and running smoothlyadams_73717
Last I checked the aforementioned unrealistic free services ran pretty darned smoothly too. :D

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#36 Jaysonguy
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What does personal responsibility have to do with anything? I buy a game, I know I can't play the game online, not having a choice is not the same as having a choice and not doing it. If I had a choice in online services for the Xbox 360 and chose to abstain anyway then it would be my choice, but in this case there are none. You either pay to play, or you go without, and that's not a choice, you are forced to do things their way.

Icehearted

You just agreed with me, it's a choice

People need to make the correct choices that matches up with their financial status. That's where personal responsibility comes in 

People need to stop expecting a handout.

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#37 vp22
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1. People complaining about it

2. People who actually think that 35-50 dollars a year for it is expensive

Jaysonguy

true dat

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#38 UltimateRAGEX
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When it's freezes and acts extremely slow e.g. loading other peoples' gamercards and gamerpics.
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#39 adress--unknown
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Things i hate about ppl who complain about xbl

 1. First of all ur moms are prob paying for ur membership so why the hell r u complaining???

 2. Its actually cheaper for u americans to get membership for a year, it costs me £40 which is like $70 -75 so shut up

 3. If u cant afford the fee, hw in gods name did u buy an xbox in da 1st place nevermind hw wud u buy games??

 4. Also if ur nt willing to pay, move onto the ps3 and see hw good their internet service is, theres a reason its free coz its awful, xbl is worth the money

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#40 jgraider
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i am 100 percent avoided and have 5 star rep
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#41 Triplekill
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Things i hate about ppl who complain about xbl

 1. First of all ur moms are prob paying for ur membership so why the hell r u complaining???

 2. Its actually cheaper for u americans to get membership for a year, it costs me £40 which is like $70 -75 so shut up

 3. If u cant afford the fee, hw in gods name did u buy an xbox in da 1st place nevermind hw wud u buy games??

 4. Also if ur nt willing to pay, move onto the ps3 and see hw good their internet service is, theres a reason its free coz its awful, xbl is worth the money

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You forgott... 5. You have the Video marketplace dammit! I so want it too... (Starts crying)
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#42 adress--unknown
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what the hell?
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#43 Aaron89
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i am 100 percent avoided and have 5 star repjgraider

Wow, people must really hate you. :P

But what I hate about XBL:

  • Paying. We all know it should be free, especially since there are alternatives. But you can't really blame them, people will pay it no matter what. Plus, no one in their right mind should be justifying its price.
  • Lack of dedicated servers. At the very least, MS published games should use dedicated servers, especially since their all heavily played on XBL (Gears of War, Halo 3, etc.)
  • Advertisements. As if the revenue we give them in gold subscriptions weren't enough. 
Basically, the lack of value in my subscription.
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#44 Guntrix7
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racism

and excessive wannabe gangsters on gta4 

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#45 DopeyDavoid
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I hate it how the whole system is centred around americans:

-No video market place
-No community games
-Almost ALL games have an online system that either makes it difficult or impossible to have a lag free game unless you live in america.

An example:
Soulcalibur 4.... Host a ranked game and americans flood in forcing me to constantly back out or just give up and have a lag fest to which THE OPPONENT STARTS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT!

Ping/region filters! Please! 

 

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#46 g5velocity
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The worst thing about XBL is get that frackin Dashboard update from them.  All show and worthless!

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#47 BaconB1ts123
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Well you pay for cable tv and that is nothing BUT ads. 

As for Live the only thing that bothers me about live is some of the jerks on it.

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#48 Tjeremiah1988
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Paying. No, 50 isnt a lot but you shouldnt have to pay for little things to connect to a friend (playing online) and chat, and some of the people that you run into when your friends arent online are things I hate about XBL.
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#49 gdogghenrikson
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The other people on it.karriston
well played
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#50 DoMiNiC147
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I don't like people who don't have mics. At least they could do I not play team based games.