THPG vs. Skate. Hint: TH loses!

Neversoft really needs to stop making Tony Hawk games. Proving Grounds is an uninspired mess! It's looks even more ridiculous than Project 8 and even more unpolished. Take a look at this video of THPG. And I guess in some sort of lame attempt to still seem "edgy" and "xTremE!!1!1!!" you now have the ability to punch people for what seems like no reason. It looks like TH is losing it's grip swiftly. And not to mention that the character animation or lack thereof, is simply unexceptable. It looks like a mannequin riding the board, not a person. There is also no sense of weight to the character as seen in this trailer. They just grind with no sense of physics.

Skate on the other hand looks to be amazing and the game to beat for at least a year to come. This game looks better and better every time I see it. No stupid BS like grinding powerlines or jumping 90 ft into the air over a house and 5 swimming pools. It's just a guy and his board set against a believable city environment. Slows down the pace to make you actually feel the flow of skating and to stick the tricks with a sense of accomplishment, instead of jamming on the A button or some other button combo. It's about time a game like Skate came along.

Good bye Mr. Hawk, we had some good times but you just failed to evolve.

its all about Skate! :)MichaeltheCM

even if skate is way better which it probably will be, tony hawk will always sell more, it has such a big fan base plus it has all the pro skaters in it and all the official stuff, and some people love the fact that instead of barely being able to pull off some basic tricks, you can do all the tricks you ever dreamed of and do crazy things in tony hawkphilip6k

Exactly what I'm saying, but Skate does seem like its going to be really cool.

WOW another skate fanboy. I mean come people stop being an ass. If you dont like TH fine,but to say stop making it is just stupid and really fanboyish. Other people still perfer TH to skate and it seems all that skatehas done is spawn really annoying fanboys.finalfantasy94

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]WOW another skate fanboy. I mean come people stop being an ass. If you dont like TH fine,but to say stop making it is just stupid and really fanboyish. Other people still perfer TH to skate and it seems all that skatehas done is spawn really annoying fanboys.childe_roland

THats opinion my friend not fact. I played the demo and its an ok game I dont hate it, but im not really into it. Also TH and skate are totally two different games. TH is more arcady while skate is more sim based. So its not one is better then other is just people have different taste.

Dont buy it, its an EA game for god sake..tony_fjellborg

I see Fight Night Round 3 in your gamertag....:|

[QUOTE="MichaeltheCM"]its all about Skate! :)joey101010

Yup. I'll still have to try the demo though.

The problem is, TH:Whatever is about grinding powerlines and mad combos with 80ft of air, and that is fun. SKATE is, what I do when I am skating, except it lacks all the fun aspects of doing it. SKATE seems redundant, why buy the game when you could buy some new trucks or a new deck? And no, it doesn't compare to most other sports as it is a singular sport. I guess the appeal is that while hitting that Super-Sized burger, fries and drink you can pretend that you are kill'n it. Some SIM games are great, simming skateboarding doesn't seem so. Beyong that, the camera is horrid but maybe that is just the demo-only version. I'll rent it if I can use Big Black as my skater.Carpe_Noctum

[QUOTE="tony_fjellborg"]Dont buy it, its an EA game for god sake..BioShockOwnz

I see Fight Night Round 3 in your gamertag....:|

Lol, i was being kindasarcastic. But many EA gamesare pretty bad.. Fight night is not one of them though..

WOW another skate fanboy. I mean come people ridiculous. If you dont like TH fine,but to say stop making it is just stupid and really fanboyish. Other people still perfer TH to skate and it seems all that skate has done is spawn really annoying fanboys.finalfantasy94

I'm not a fanboy of Skate, I'm a fanboy of good games. Skate, to me, represents the next evolution in skateboarding games. The TH series, while it will always have a fanbase for good or bad, has failed to bring anything new to the table. Instead, Neversoft feels that it should just crank out the same game year after year with minor tweaks. If the TH series had gone the way of Skate and introduced an analog trick system and slower more deliberate gameplay, you bet you butt I would be in here singing its praises.

EA, in the past and even presently, has been brandished as the "Evil Empire", but for some reason they still sell millions of copies of their games. It's not so much that EA doesn't want to evolve and take the next step with their games, it's the EA knows that people will buy the same game year after year (Madden anyone??) with just enough small tweaks to not lose the original appeal of the game. That's as much of the gamers fault as it is the publishers. Skate has a solid enough foundation that I wouldn't mind playing the same thing next year with some tweaks. We've been doing that with the TH for awhile. So why should this be any different now?

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]WOW another skate fanboy. I mean come people ridiculous. If you dont like TH fine,but to say stop making it is just stupid and really fanboyish. Other people still perfer TH to skate and it seems all that skate has done is spawn really annoying fanboys.EnderSR388

I'm not a fanboy of Skate, I'm a fanboy of good games. Skate, to me, represents the next evolution in skateboarding games. The TH series, while it will always have a fanbase for good or bad, has failed to bring anything new to the table. Instead, Neversoft feels that it should just crank out the same game year after year with minor tweaks. If the TH series had gone the way of Skate and introduced an analog trick system and slower more deliberate gameplay, you bet you butt I would be in here singing its praises.

EA, in the past and even presently, has been brandished as the "Evil Empire", but for some reason they still sell millions of copies of their games. It's not so much that EA doesn't want to evolve and take the next step with their games, it's the EA knows that people will buy the same game year after year (Madden anyone??) with just enough small tweaks to not lose the original appeal of the game. That's as much of the gamers fault as it is the publishers. Skate has a solid enough foundation that I wouldn't mind playing the same thing next year with some tweaks. We've been doing that with the TH for awhile. So why should this be any different now?

Not everyone is in love with the analog system. Its basicly fight night stuck to a skatebord which I hate. I have nothing against skate,but like I said just cause you hate the TH games doesint mean they should stop making them all together. Other people enjoy them still and I admit Undergournd was retarted,but it seems TH is going back to how it was before. So you have to admit for you to say "stop making the games" because you dislike them is childesh.

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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]WOW another skate fanboy. I mean come people ridiculous. If you dont like TH fine,but to say stop making it is just stupid and really fanboyish. Other people still perfer TH to skate and it seems all that skate has done is spawn really annoying fanboys.finalfantasy94

I'm not a fanboy of Skate, I'm a fanboy of good games. Skate, to me, represents the next evolution in skateboarding games. The TH series, while it will always have a fanbase for good or bad, has failed to bring anything new to the table. Instead, Neversoft feels that it should just crank out the same game year after year with minor tweaks. If the TH series had gone the way of Skate and introduced an analog trick system and slower more deliberate gameplay, you bet you butt I would be in here singing its praises.

EA, in the past and even presently, has been brandished as the "Evil Empire", but for some reason they still sell millions of copies of their games. It's not so much that EA doesn't want to evolve and take the next step with their games, it's the EA knows that people will buy the same game year after year (Madden anyone??) with just enough small tweaks to not lose the original appeal of the game. That's as much of the gamers fault as it is the publishers. Skate has a solid enough foundation that I wouldn't mind playing the same thing next year with some tweaks. We've been doing that with the TH for awhile. So why should this be any different now?

Not everyone is in love with the analog system. Its basicly fight night stuck to a skatebord which I hate. I have nothing against skate,but like I said just cause you hate the TH games doesint mean they should stop making them all together. Other people enjoy them still and I admit Undergournd was retarted,but it seems TH is going back to how it was before. So you have to admit for you to say "stop making the games" because you dislike them is childesh.

That's the thing, they're not going back to the way they were. Hell they're not even going forward. The TH series is just wallowing in some mess undecided if the game should be realistic or cartoony. I would respect the series more if it did go back to what made it famous. But this whole "nail the trick" and the realistic look doing cartoony things just doesn't cut it. The analog control works very well in Skate, just as it did in Fight Night R3. I didn't hear very many people complain about not being able to throw punches, I mean even OXM rated it a 10 (I know that's not saying much, but....). So it's obviously a system that works and many people are comfortable with.

It takes skill and patience and I think that what some people who played the demo lacked. The tricks weren't just handed to them with a few simple button presses. So they ran on here to tell eveyone how horrible the game is. Also, about the camera: I think it's in a perfect position. This game is about "Skateboarding", which means that the board should be the main focal point not the person or the silly crap happening in the background.

I just think that the TH series should either go back to it's roots (timed runs, hidden tapes, no Bam or Steve-O) or move into the future, but this half-assed mishmash thing it's become is just sad.

Dont buy it, its an EA game for god sake..tony_fjellborg

True that!!! Its also a skateboarding game, why would you want to play a skateboarding game?

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"][QUOTE="EnderSR388"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]WOW another skate fanboy. I mean come people ridiculous. If you dont like TH fine,but to say stop making it is just stupid and really fanboyish. Other people still perfer TH to skate and it seems all that skate has done is spawn really annoying fanboys.EnderSR388

I'm not a fanboy of Skate, I'm a fanboy of good games. Skate, to me, represents the next evolution in skateboarding games. The TH series, while it will always have a fanbase for good or bad, has failed to bring anything new to the table. Instead, Neversoft feels that it should just crank out the same game year after year with minor tweaks. If the TH series had gone the way of Skate and introduced an analog trick system and slower more deliberate gameplay, you bet you butt I would be in here singing its praises.

EA, in the past and even presently, has been brandished as the "Evil Empire", but for some reason they still sell millions of copies of their games. It's not so much that EA doesn't want to evolve and take the next step with their games, it's the EA knows that people will buy the same game year after year (Madden anyone??) with just enough small tweaks to not lose the original appeal of the game. That's as much of the gamers fault as it is the publishers. Skate has a solid enough foundation that I wouldn't mind playing the same thing next year with some tweaks. We've been doing that with the TH for awhile. So why should this be any different now?

Not everyone is in love with the analog system. Its basicly fight night stuck to a skatebord which I hate. I have nothing against skate,but like I said just cause you hate the TH games doesint mean they should stop making them all together. Other people enjoy them still and I admit Undergournd was retarted,but it seems TH is going back to how it was before. So you have to admit for you to say "stop making the games" because you dislike them is childesh.

That's the thing, they're not going back to the way they were. Hell they're not even going forward. The TH series is just wallowing in some mess undecided if the game should be realistic or cartoony. I would respect the series more if it did go back to what made it famous. But this whole "nail the trick" and the realistic look doing cartoony things just doesn't cut it. The analog control works very well in Skate, just as it did in Fight Night R3. I didn't hear very many people complain about not being able to throw punches, I mean even OXM rated it a 10 (I know that's not saying much, but....). So it's obviously a system that works and many people are comfortable with.

It takes skill and patience and I think that what some people who played the demo lacked. The tricks weren't just handed to them with a few simple button presses. So they ran on here to tell eveyone how horrible the game is. Also, about the camera: I think it's in a perfect position. This game is about "Skateboarding", which means that the board should be the main focal point not the person or the silly crap happening in the background.

I just think that the TH series should either go back to it's roots (timed runs, hidden tapes, no Bam or Steve-O) or move into the future, but this half-assed mishmash thing it's become is just sad.

First of all I like the fact that time runs dont exist anymore. It makes you rush through a game you wanna sit down and have fun with. Also TH looks real because its next gen and the graphics gatta update. What do want them to look like down hill jam?! TH has always been a arcady game and thats what made it fun for me and others. Also THPG doesint have the jackass people like the underground series. Yes I do admit that Skate does take skill to pull off, butthat doesint mean I dont have the skill I just dont like the control layout. Yes alot of people are comfertable with the analog controler, but alot doesint equal everyone in the world. They add nail the trick,grab and manual to add new feature in the game you rather them take it out? Like I said just because a game plays arcady doesint mean it has to look arcady with big heads and cartoons graphics I mean look at NBA street homcourt. A arcady game with relistic graphics.