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#1 Kevin-V
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It has come to our attention that the discs provided by Microsoft for review do not represent the final retail version of Lost Odyssey.

Please see my blog for more information. I will keep everyone informed as we learn more information.

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#2 Gen007
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i figured as much i keep hearing about frame rate problems in reviews and they just arent thier in the final version of the game also load times are frequent but extremely short you rareley spend over a sec on each load screen but yet on all the reviews they complain about long load times
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#3 locoidontknow
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I have been palying the game for a while now, and the load times are fine. The review mentioned almost a minute between cutscenes loading, and thats just not there in my version.
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#4 iboo01
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I knew something was wrong with their review
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#5 360player_eq12
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so it will get raised to a 7.8? cant be that much of a difference.

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#7 PKmaster1984
Member since 2007 • 198 Posts

glad to see microsoft pays attention to gamespot.... LOL

as soon as your head honcho left , gamespot has been slowly going down.. I know I am not the only to think this way..

bye for now..

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#8 tamsj04
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wow gamespot way to be on the balll...

are you sure your guys didn't review assassins creed . that wasn't the final version..

Assassins is a great game .. amazing actually , and game spot gave it a horrible score..

get with the times. your trying to be totally unbiased .. but all your doing is being completly biased..

Halo 3 a 9.5 , who pays you guys...??

anyway I know I will probably get a one day suspension for this post , but it will be well worth it..

peace gamespot ,

PKmaster1984

I don't remember a 9 ever being a horrible score and thanks for the info Kevin :)

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#9 PKmaster1984
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[QUOTE="PKmaster1984"]

wow gamespot way to be on the balll...

are you sure your guys didn't review assassins creed . that wasn't the final version..

Assassins is a great game .. amazing actually , and game spot gave it a horrible score..

get with the times. your trying to be totally unbiased .. but all your doing is being completly biased..

Halo 3 a 9.5 , who pays you guys...??

anyway I know I will probably get a one day suspension for this post , but it will be well worth it..

peace gamespot ,

tamsj04

I don't remember a 9 ever being a horrible score and thanks for the info Kevin :)

OH yea sorry about that assassins creed thing, that was IGN who gave it a brutal score...

I love gamespot with all my heart

happy v day gamespot...

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#11 fenwickhotmail
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that makes sense i was thinking wtf? were they playing the same game. does this mean the review will be altered

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#12 deactivated-59da85d821feb
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I think the score should go up to 8 because one of the main crticisms in your review was the loading times
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#13 tamsj04
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that makes sense i was thinking wtf? were they playing the same game. does this mean the review will be altered

fenwickhotmail

It could if Kevin thinks the differences are enough to warrant a higher score

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#14 MrClean44
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Wow that makes complete sense now. Thanks for tha post.
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#15 Odin945
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Thats wicked man, thanks alot for the post, I really appreciate it
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#16 Stevie_Q
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Sweet. I think LO is deserving of at least an 8.0, hopefully this will bump it up to that
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#17 kozzy1234
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Give the game at least a 8 now, geeez :P
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#18 Ket87
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Well thats good I was thinking of picking up Lost Odyssey this weekend regardless of the review's bad points as I've been craving a good old fashion JRPG for a long, long time. Knowing the biggest complaint reviews had about it isn't true really helps. As for the review score itself I'll wait and see, I usually weigh GameSpot's scores now because every review compared to my personal opinion tends to go + or - 1 point so this game will probably be an 8.5 for me. But I'll find out tomorrow or Saturday I guess.
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#19 Keitarourashima
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Yeah I was gonna buy it anyway, but it feels good to know those weak spots aren't there anymore.
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#20 Elann2008
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I'm about 9 hours or so into the game and I have yet to see framerate issues, screen tearing, or long load times. The longest loading that I've seen was about 10-12 seconds, maximum. I'm hooked on the game. It's addictive, fun, the characters extremely likeable, great voiceovers, gorgeous cutscenes, graphics are superb, controls are excellent and easy to use, the story is very VERY well done. I dont see any problems with this game at all. I will never understand why the game was marked the way it was. In my humble opinion, the game to me is at least a 9.2 or higher. It's challenging but fair, you have to check this game out or buy it now. Lost Odyssey is one of those games where you need to ignore what reviewers said. Do yourself a favor and pick this title up today.
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I'm about 9 hours or so into the game and I have yet to see framerate issues, screen tearing, or long load times. The longest loading that I've seen was about 10-12 seconds, maximum. I'm hooked on the game. It's addictive, fun, the characters extremely likeable, great voiceovers, gorgeous cutscenes, graphics are superb, controls are excellent and easy to use, the story is very VERY well done. I dont see any problems with this game at all. I will never understand why the game was marked the way it was. In my humble opinion, the game to me is at least a 9.2 or higher. It's challenging but fair, you have to check this game out or buy it now. Lost Odyssey is one of those games where you need to ignore what reviewers said. Do yourself a favor and pick this title up today.Elann2008

you speak the truth!

anyone else really like the dreams?

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#25 legacyzero
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Yeah, 7.5 is quite an unfair score of LO considering the very things you complained about performance wise were pretty much fixed.

Do I hear an 8.5??

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#26 steveslugga
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this game looks so awesome, i dont care what GS says, loading times dont change thier opinion on the story, combat system, etc. so i wouldnt even bother to read their review even if they did revise it
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I've posted this in other threads, but I will give what I see as the facts, not interpretations.

1.) I did see one instance of frame skipping/choppiness. That was the first fight scene with the 100s of Khent Soldiers. I happened every time Kaim killed one. This is not as much a problem with the engine as it is with a specific glitch I'd say as after 7+ hours of play I did not experience anything like it again.

2.) I measured the first 5 loading screens. I counted 1,2,3,4, etc... not 1 one thousand 2 one thousand. I got 8, 7, 9, 10, 10. That's like no more than a 5 real time seconds (I admit I do not have a stop watch). Yes, one scene later took a bit longer like count to 20, but nothing like that.

While numerous, they are very short, and nothing as bad as Oblivion, or the Orange Box on the PS3.

While I could go into gameplay and such I won't.

I suggest Gamespot adopt a policy of playing only consumer available games or ask for such things before putting out irresponsible reviews such as this one (seeing as this review doesn't accurately portray the issues at hand and Gamespot is dedicated to telling the audience which games are worth purchases). The already tarnished reputation of the reviews cannot sustain anymore and I refuse to believe that this type of situation isn't known before hand that non retail copies don't have bugs.

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#28 crisvok
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the game is ok but this is the first game i bought the it wasent even scratch and frooze up 3 times now
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#29 Gen007
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I've posted this in other threads, but I will give what I see as the facts, not interpretations.

1.) I did see one instance of frame skipping/choppiness. That was the first fight scene with the 100s of Khent Soldiers. I happened every time Kaim killed one. This is not as much a problem with the engine as it is with a specific glitch I'd say as after 7+ hours of play I did not experience anything like it again.

2.) I measured the first 5 loading screens. I counted 1,2,3,4, etc... not 1 one thousand 2 one thousand. I got 8, 7, 9, 10, 10. That's like no more than a 5 real time seconds (I admit I do not have a stop watch). Yes, one scene later took a bit longer like count to 20, but nothing like that.

While numerous, they are very short, and nothing as bad as Oblivion, or the Orange Box on the PS3.

While I could go into gameplay and such I won't.

I suggest Gamespot adopt a policy of playing only consumer available games or ask for such things before putting out irresponsible reviews such as this one (seeing as this review doesn't accurately portray the issues at hand and Gamespot is dedicated to telling the audience which games are worth purchases). The already tarnished reputation of the reviews cannot sustain anymore and I refuse to believe that this type of situation isn't known before hand that non retail copies don't have bugs.

SemiMaster

yeah i agree they shouldnt review debug versions of the game even if they cliam it to be the final version because there was still development time which allowed them to change some things but then i also see it from their point if they dont get the game early how can they be expected to have out an review when the game comes out

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#30 iownu712
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The game is very fun but there are a lot of times that are really difficult (borgimoray things) and some that are just confusing and annoying if you don't know exactly how to do it(in jail in the white boa) but the game is a lot of fun. The constant cutscenes suck though and i don't see the point of the dreams, having to read a documentary on what happened before. The game is still th best new one this year.

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#31 fenwickhotmail
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has anyone done the funeral section

almost cried!

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#32 aliasfreak
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The game is very fun but there are a lot of times that are really difficult (borgimoray things) and some that are just confusing and annoying if you don't know exactly how to do it(in jail in the white boa) but the game is a lot of fun. The constant cutscenes suck though and i don't see the point of the dreams, having to read a documentary on what happened before. The game is still th best new one this year.

iownu712

Personally, I like the difficulty. I want my game to be tough, I really enjoy the challenge. I also like the cutscenes because I love hearing Jansen's comments. Finally, I like the dreams, they are touching and give you insight into Kaim. You do realize that you can just skip them if you don't like them, right? You just have to hit the B button when they pop up.

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#33 Ket87
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Yeah picked up the game today, put a few hours in and have encountered no load times exceeding 10 seconds and no framerate issues at all. On a side note this game is great, the entire experience is nostalgic of all those great RPGs of the late 90's on the Playstation. So far 7.5 does seem unjust, especially considering the biggest gripe GameSpot had with the game as with most games were technical issues which had no grounds in truth at all since the actual game lacked the problems the review discs had. I'm thinking this game is in the 8.0-8.5 range, yet another game that shows its a shame they dropped their old scoring system that averaged all qualities of the game.
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#34 clifftrapremove
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I have heard mixed things about this game, i wonder if the scores will change.
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#35 Elann2008
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The game is very fun but there are a lot of times that are really difficult (borgimoray things) and some that are just confusing and annoying if you don't know exactly how to do it(in jail in the white boa) but the game is a lot of fun. The constant cutscenes suck though and i don't see the point of the dreams, having to read a documentary on what happened before. The game is still th best new one this year.

iownu712

I'm skipping all the dreams, because they dont really have anything to do with the game's story. I'll be reading the dreams after I've completed LO. Besides, reading the dreams kinda breaks up the gameplay. I'm 30 hours into the game. Let me know if you have any questions! :)

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#36 fenwickhotmail
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[QUOTE="iownu712"]

The game is very fun but there are a lot of times that are really difficult (borgimoray things) and some that are just confusing and annoying if you don't know exactly how to do it(in jail in the white boa) but the game is a lot of fun. The constant cutscenes suck though and i don't see the point of the dreams, having to read a documentary on what happened before. The game is still th best new one this year.

Elann2008

I'm skipping all the dreams, because they dont really have anything to do with the game's story. I'll be reading the dreams after I've completed LO. Besides, reading the dreams kinda breaks up the gameplay. I'm 30 hours into the game. Let me know if you have any questions! :)

nooo the dreams are amazing. it gives you a real background to Kaim and what pain he has previously gone through. i really liked them :P

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It has come to our attention that the discs provided by Microsoft for review do not represent the final retail version of Lost Odyssey.

Please see my blog for more information. I will keep everyone informed as we learn more information.

Kevin-V
gawd :roll: is M$ really retarded or what?
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#38 xsubtownerx
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nooo the dreams are amazing. it gives you a real background to Kaim and what pain he has previously gone through. i really liked them :P

fenwickhotmail

Agreed. I really really love Kaim.

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#39 D3aDStaR
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loading times should have nothing to do with what makes this game a great rpg... and im willing to bet they spent 10 mins playing the game then threw out some lame as review.. and it was prolly someone who dosent know the true meaning of an rpg..
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#40 lucas_kelly
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loading times should have nothing to do with what makes this game a great rpg... and im willing to bet they spent 10 mins playing the game then threw out some lame as review.. and it was prolly someone who dosent know the true meaning of an rpg.. D3aDStaR

Load times have a LOT to do with the score of the game, especially this game. Longer load times completely breaks down the games pace. Don't make stupid accusations like that, anyone who has played a fair amount of RPG's and any other genre for that matter knows that loading times always affect gameplay. Anyway any update on whether the score will be changed or not?

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#41 avee69
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The game deserves 8.5. Check out my review for the reasons why. The load times are fine, I have no problems with them. Even with the load times, GS should have given this an 8.0. With the new copies for review, it should have bumped it up to 8.5. But whatever happens happens...
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#42 deeplydippy78
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Have to agree with everyone else in this forum.

No technical issues.

Great game.

8.5 easy.

Let's see if Gamespot values it's members opinion and acts responsibly with a changed review.

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#43 whaler06
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If this question was already answered im sorry, but are they going to redo their review for this game.

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#44 FearTheRain
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If they REDO Gamespot's review for Lost Odyssey it will be a complete INSULT to this site. Gamespot will lose any credibility it had left.

If they fix Lost Odyssey's score then they need to fix nearly half of the games on this site that were reviewed wrong!!

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#45 kozzy1234
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If they REDO Gamespot's review for Lost Odyssey it will be a complete INSULT to this site. Gamespot will lose any credibility it had left.

If they fix Lost Odyssey's score then they need to fix nearly half of the games on this site that were reviewed wrong!!

FearTheRain

What the hell are you talking about?

Lost Odyssey got reviewed WITH THE WRONG DISC. The disc they got was the UNFINISHED version, IF gamespot doesnt change the score to fit THE RETAIL VERSION, then they will lose my support.

You do relize teh guy who reviewed did so with an UNFINISHED COPY?

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#46 FearTheRain
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lol wrong disc...

Yea I went to Wal-Mart and talked with the guy in Electronics...

It seems that all the retailers as well as Gamespot got a copy of the BETA version of the game.

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#47 whaler06
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I would hope that they would redo the review because i do not believe this game deserves a poor 7.5, it deserves at least an 8.5. They can stick with their initual review and say it brings nothing new but that doesnt make it a bad game.
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#48 kozzy1234
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Finally picked Lost Odyssey up!!!!! Gonna go put it in the 360 right now! :D
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#49 fenwickhotmail
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Finally picked Lost Odyssey up!!!!! Gonna go put it in the 360 right now! :Dkozzy1234

Enjoy! once you get into it, its fantastic :)

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#50 Naganox777
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I've been looking forwad to this game, but the long loading times cut me off. This is great news, and maybe I'll pick up the game.