Too Human Demo was a huge mistake

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#1 nahmean187
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Releasing a demo for too human was a huge mistake. 10 years in developement and ppl are already ripping on a game just bc of the demo. also a demo doesnt even show off everything u can get in the game, which is what too human is all about. ive never seen a game get so much critisism after a demo was released.

so what do u guys think? if u hated the demo will u still try out the real game? and how many ppl went from wanting this game to def not getting it?

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#2 a55a55inx
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10 years? that's before the first xbox... anyway, I wasn't hyped for the game based on the videos I saw. When I played the demo I wasn't too impressed. The gameplay was just ok to me, but the cinematics and animations appear as if it could use a ton more polish. I know that a lot of people could care less about motions, but I'm personally going to school based on animations, so it's hard not to pick it out.
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#3 grafkhun
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hey everyone, for every "too human demo" related thread let's just say "maybe" and leave. Honestly, this thread has been done to death already, we have determined it's a flawed game yet has many redeeming qualities, it's a love it or hate it game, can we please move on.
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#4 nahmean187
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im not saying the game was bad im just saying releasing a demo was a mistake
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#5 XxSTILL_BORNxX
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Well i just tried the demo and it blew me away , the transition from gameplay to cutscenes are perfect , the music in battles give that epic feeling that i love , getting new items and skill points and going threw levels also getting new special moves are awesome:D i love it plus there is an online and create a character option so i think thats a plus to.
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#6 SaintJimmmy
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The demo wasnt too bad the controls took a bit to get used too but the thing that really made me dismiss this game game is the Only 2 player coop orginally i thought this is a good mindless game that me and some freinds could play and level up toghter and stuff (Ive beat marvel so many times)
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#7 Toriko42
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It sucks, that's all I know and the demo is supposed to represent a taste of the final product

If that's a taste I'm still trying to get rid of it
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#8 Talldude80
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maybe

edit: btw I liked the demo. so i will probably rent the game when it comes out at least. or if it gets good reviews, i'll buy it.

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#9 BioShockOwnz
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I've played the demo 7 times and I'll be picking this game up on day one! Loved it...:)
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#10 LessThanMike
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when i started the demo i will admit that i hated almost everything about it....then after about a half hour it started to grow on me and i began to love everything about it...after i played the demo about 10 times i went and pre-ordered the game...note...i wasn't going to get this game at all originally, the demo totally turned me around
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#11 krp008
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played the demo, i will be shocked if this game scores above an 8.0
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#12 Trazish
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Hey ppl....IT'S A DEMO!!!! Guess what that means? It doesn't have all the pretty details and next gen goodies that the full games does. What is up with everyone now-a-days? First it's the Youtube critics, now it's everyone is an expert game critic. Just give it a rest and put this burnt out topic in it's grave.
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#13 MikeK47
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Ok the guy above me needs to realize what a demo is. A demo is supposed to get people who have not researched the game a lot, excited about the game. To look at what the game is. It is also supposed to get people looking forward to the game even more excited. I realize that it is a demo, but while gaming has become a huge industry the people who play games are not all die hards or even very deep with impressions. Many people who play look at the surface of the game and pass judgement. It is unfortunate but the world we live in.

As for the game, I thought the demo was horrible. It felt like they just took a random part of the main story and just cut and pasted to make it a demo. I would have thought the demo would have been great if they just put me in an arena gave me a tutorial and sent waves of enemies at me. I mean I do not even know anything about the universe and let alone the controls. I could read the advanced combat in the menus but even that sucks. It does not even tell me how to regenerate health. Do you just pick up orbs? People say Mass Effect's menus were bad then what do they think of Too Human. It's about 5 steps back from Mass Effect, and I thought Mass Effect's menus were great.

I was thinking of getting Too Human... Well the whole two person co-op was a huge let down but not a deal breaker. So it was between Fable 2 and Too Human. While they may not be the same they are similar enough since the co-op is what I want, and with Fable 2's showing at E3 it looked even better. With four player co-op it was hands down Too Human but not so much now. The scales have decided the die cast. Fable 2 has won my attention and $60.

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#14 mazdero
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as brief as the demo was, I think it was pretty good. The Graphics are kind of hit and miss(don't care too much for the characters face modeling), and the animations are not very good(reminded me of Conan animations). The combat took some getting used to but wasn't bad. I only got to play as the champion in the demo so, it may be better with another class. The camera could have been better. The story is intriguing though, and the leveling up and equipment seems solid. The mixture of swords and guns was actually pretty cool. I think people expect way too much these days. You should put all that "10 year development" crap out of your heads and just grade the game on its merits. Theres a strong possibility I will pick this up.
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#15 HilbillyRokstar
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10 years? that's before the first xbox... anyway, I wasn't hyped for the game based on the videos I saw. When I played the demo I wasn't too impressed. The gameplay was just ok to me, but the cinematics and animations appear as if it could use a ton more polish. I know that a lot of people could care less about motions, but I'm personally going to school based on animations, so it's hard not to pick it out.a55a55inx
Yea it was orig scheduled as a PS1 game. FWIW, I hated the hack n slash feel, horrible camera, and poor gun control. It`s terrible and unfixable.
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#16 Darkzero6x2
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its a crap game
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#17 Trickshot771
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Too Human is awesome. There's no point in trying to convince people that it is because it seems like the cool thing to do is to jump on the "Too Human sucks" bandwagon.

Not even going to explain why it's such a great game. I've done it too many times already.

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#18 craigalan23
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Day one buy for me. The camera was never a problem and afte you get used to the combat it's great. Co-op with a friend will be so much fun can't wait for this game.
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#19 TX360
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Releasing a demo for too human was a huge mistake. 10 years in developement and ppl are already ripping on a game just bc of the demo. also a demo doesnt even show off everything u can get in the game, which is what too human is all about. ive never seen a game get so much critisism after a demo was released.

so what do u guys think? if u hated the demo will u still try out the real game? and how many ppl went from wanting this game to def not getting it?

nahmean187

yeh i agree they should of just released the game then people could fully play it.

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#20 Toriko42
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Hey ppl....IT'S A DEMO!!!! Guess what that means? It doesn't have all the pretty details and next gen goodies that the full games does. What is up with everyone now-a-days? First it's the Youtube critics, now it's everyone is an expert game critic. Just give it a rest and put this burnt out topic in it's grave. Trazish
Excuse me? Demoes are 90 percent of the time an excellent indicator of a games quality
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#21 sonic0491
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[QUOTE="Trazish"]Hey ppl....IT'S A DEMO!!!! Guess what that means? It doesn't have all the pretty details and next gen goodies that the full games does. What is up with everyone now-a-days? First it's the Youtube critics, now it's everyone is an expert game critic. Just give it a rest and put this burnt out topic in it's grave. Toriko42
Excuse me? Demoes are 90 percent of the time an excellent indicator of a games quality

yeah, take a look at the motorstorm, f1, resistance, virtua tennis, conan, battlefield, mgs beta, jericho, ALL THE DEMOS ON PSN! they are exaclty like the actual games!

dont say it a stripped version and criticise what people think! its a level ripped from the game and is representing what its going to be like....

which is EPIC FAIL!

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#22 BigD
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I played the demo and I'm still going to buy the game. Yes, I would like more combat animation and better ground textures, but I still found the game fun and I know co-op with my buddies will be great.
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#23 doubalfa
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as I told to a friend, I doidn't like the demo, why? because you need a full instruct boolet to really learn the posiblities of the game, so I can give too Human a chance if critics are good anyway, but if I haveto base my purchase on just the demo, then my answer is no, im not getting it, because a 10 year development and a change of engine just made it worse, where are the cinematic amera angles?
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#24 SexyPorkins
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I still haven't got to play the demo and I don't know if I will. But I hope that the game turns out to be something fun and Diablo-esque.
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#25 bmcookie797
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The complications of the new controls make this game at first glance seem mediocre. But if you begin playing the game trying to get your combo meter up and using some of the more advanced moves it makes the value of the game throttle up. I have played the demo multiple times with all the classes (see other threads or google for info). And after multiple run throughs it is a great game because you have now become used to the controls. Do not judge this game at first glance and also there are a ton of things that are not offered in the demo such as moves and armor. If you think about the value of this game is high cause it assures multiple run throughs whether your trying to get your character to level 50 or are trying to play with all the classes this game has great replay value.
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#26 EnderSR388
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Well, I agree with you about it being terrible, but you're wrong about the 10 years. It was a concept that SK wanted to develop for the past 10 years. It hasn't been in development that long.

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#27 BlueTimber
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Demo's are not some, incrediblly stripped down version of the actual game. That's why they are released, to show you what the game is like. Not what it's like today with a year of development time to go.
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#28 EnderSR388
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Demo's are not some, incrediblly stripped down version of the actual game. That's why they are released, to show you what the game is like. Not what it's like today with a year of development time to go.BlueTimber

Sometimes it happens though. There was a game (I can't remember the name I'll have to go back through my mags) that a game magazine reviewed and it wasn't even the final code! So basically they reviewed a demo. The mag printed a retraction and said that the game would be re-reviewed when the received the final build.This was a major magazine, I think it was EGM or GameInformer.

Damn I wish I could remember the name of the game!

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#29 fudger2
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this WAS a rent...now im better off without wasting 6 bucks on it.
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#30 SmoothBrother1
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I've played the demo 7 times and I'll be picking this game up on day one! Loved it...:)BioShockOwnz

I'm definitely with you, I played it twice and it just makes me excited to play the game, it's a definitely day 1 buy for me.

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#31 gntolnx
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I've played the demo 7 times and I'll be picking this game up on day one! Loved it...:)SmoothBrother1

I'm definitely with you, I played it twice and it just makes me excited to play the game, it's a definitely day 1 buy for me.

Agree.

Cant wait.

I think Silicon Knights puts out some good stuff..

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#32 bmcookie797
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And I know everyone is saying 10 years in development but in actuality it had a fairly regular development cycle. It was an idea being fleshed out for the PS1 but then Silicon Knights became a partner of Nintendo and began revamping the idea for gamecube. Once again they moved to partner with Microsoft and began developing the game for the 360. And also any game that was having issues with the engine would obviously take a longer time to develop. And the lawsuit with Epic and the Unreal Engine was an obvious point that development would reach a slowdown. Now that it is done from a development slowdown it had a particular regular cycle considering Silicon Knights did drop major hits during that time frame. Does everyone forget Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes were released during that time
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#33 EnderSR388
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Does everyone forget Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes were released during that timebmcookie797

Honestly, I'd rather have SK rerelease Eternal Darkness with a new 3D camera and updated polys/textures instead of Too Human.

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#34 mhitman
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I would rent it possibly buy it,

I like the story but don't really care for the controls, if they did it more like an action game i think i would've enjoyed it more

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#35 Pit_italy
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Releasing a demo for too human was a huge mistake. 10 years in developement and ppl are already ripping on a game just bc of the demo. also a demo doesnt even show off everything u can get in the game, which is what too human is all about. ive never seen a game get so much critisism after a demo was released.

so what do u guys think? if u hated the demo will u still try out the real game? and how many ppl went from wanting this game to def not getting it?

nahmean187

well dude when they came out with a game where you need to use the right stick for combat they could of expected some flaming.

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#36 armyman455
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when he said 10 years he wasnt kidding this game was originally planned for the ps2 and gamecube early on but they cancelled it for that generation and began working on it for this next gen and then here it is in all its glory in high def on the 360
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#37 nahmean187
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My problem w/ the demo is that this game is all about leveling up and collecting stuff. w/ the demo only being the first part of the game u cant 1. level up enough to see the differences in the classes 2. collect the really cool stuff and armor to make baldur unique. these are two things that are supposed to make the game shine and all the demo really shows is the combat which is watered down bc baldur is level one when u start. im not gonna say i loved the demo but i thought it was good and has potential to be a great game. it woulda worked out so much better though if sk let u use a more powered up version of baldur.
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#38 Tactis
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i am glad they gave the demo i wasn't going to buy the game until i new exactly what it was like so this is alot better