wats all the hype about mgs4s graphics?its not something revolutionary

First thing first. Stop talking in caps. All it does is make you look idiotic and juvenile.

Now, you say that Gears looks better etc. The thing is, Gears has small levels which are very linear and havent got any open spaces.

On the MGS4 demo I saw a huge level, with many many enemys roaming around (and fighting) which DONT suddenly spawn. To be honest, I actually cant be bothered to explain why the 360 couldnt handle MGS4. I know it couldnt, and anyone else with half a brain would agree with me.

First thing first. Stop talking in caps. All it does is make you look idiotic and juvenile.

Now, you say that Gears looks better etc. The thing is, Gears has small levels which are very linear and havent got any open spaces.

On the MGS4 demo I saw a huge level, with many many enemys roaming around (and fighting) which DONT suddenly spawn. To be honest, I actually cant be bothered to explain why the 360 couldnt handle MGS4. I know it couldnt, and anyone else with half a brain would agree with me.

VinnoT

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First thing first. Stop talking in caps. All it does is make you look idiotic and juvenile.

Now, you say that Gears looks better etc. The thing is, Gears has small levels which are very linear and havent got any open spaces.

On the MGS4 demo I saw a huge level, with many many enemys roaming around (and fighting) which DONT suddenly spawn. To be honest, I actually cant be bothered to explain why the 360 couldnt handle MGS4. I know it couldnt, and anyone else with half a brain would agree with me.

Triplekill

after seeing some gameplay video I would at least say its in bioshock league. Before seeing that video I would'nt have thought that it was that good but the gameplay looked so good it changed my opinion that much, if you have'nt seen, it you should go watch it and see if it opens your mind a little.

IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT 360 CANNOT HANDLE MGS4S GRAPHICS ....HUH!BIG DEAL .LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR ,WHEN MGS4 IS COMPARED WITH GAMES LIKE GEARS OF WAR OR BIOSHOCK OR MASS EFFECT IT FAILS TO IMPRESS ME.CONSIDERING HOW MUCH MORE COLOURFUL THOSE GAMES ARE ..AND IN MGS4 ALL THE SURROUNDINGS ARE GREENISH..SO WATS THE BIG DEAL...IF 360 CAN HANDLE BEAUTIFUL GAMES LIKE GEARS OF WAR AND LOST PLANET THEN MGS4 IS NOT A BIG DEAL AND TAKE THIS ALSO IN COSIDERATION THAT MGS4 DOESNT HAVE ANY PHYSICS AND THE FIRE LOOKS DISGUSTING .NOTE WAT HAPPENS TO THE AARMORED CAR WHEN IT IS HIT BY A ROCKET.....!NOTHING... SO PEOPLE STOP ALL THESE AND BE SURE THAT IT WILL COME TO THE 360 SOONER OR LATERjohnkio111

man thats a pretty bad argument, I cant see any logic in that at all. I mean every thing in halo has a purple tinge,most of the enviroments in gears are black and browny colours and believe it or not even if the 360 can handle it and no matter how many exclusives the PS3 has lost this is going to be one of the exclusives they keep because the developer seems to loyal to sony so it is'nt going to happen. Also whats up with the caps and if you think the games so crap why do you care if it comes to the 360 or not?

The Metal "cutscene" Solid games should of just been movies, end of.

Okay, there are way too many people making System-Wars-esque posts in the platform forums while typing in all caps. :|

And besides - yes, MGS4 is graphically amazing, but the 360 probably could handle it; they'd just have to change up the way they programmed it a little to put less strain on the processor and more on the graphics card.

sorry for writing in capslock..kojima will probably want his last creation to appeal to a higher no. of gamers so think about it..

and talking of consoles i will definately buy aps3 for heavenly sword , infamous,uncharted and rachet

I think that the hype about the 360 not being able to play MGS4 is just something that the fanboys of the ps3 kicked up becuase they were disapopinted with all the soso called sony loyal devs that were converting. Seriously i remember when i was hyped about the 360 and the ps3 comingout. i checked everyhting down to theterraflops that ecah console produced and i realised that a good developer would be able toprogram the game to produce the exact same image at tegh highest quality.

serioulsy, As if Mgs4 can push the limits of 3 power pc based cpu's and an excellent graphics card.

Its all down to the developers sony fanboys and how effectively they code the game.

I think that the hype about the 360 not being able to play MGS4 is just something that the fanboys of the ps3 kicked up becuase they were disapopinted with all the soso called sony loyal devs that were converting. Seriously i remember when i was hyped about the 360 and the ps3 comingout. i checked everyhting down to theterraflops that ecah console produced and i realised that a good developer would be able toprogram the game to produce the exact same image at tegh highest quality.

serioulsy, As if Mgs4 can push the limits of 3 power pc based cpu's and an excellent graphics card.

Its all down to the developers sony fanboys and how effectively they code the game.

chris_yz80

Did you just call Gears of War colourful?

MGS4 graphics' are great. I don't see why you would disagree.

IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT 360 CANNOT HANDLE MGS4S GRAPHICS ....HUH!BIG DEAL .LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR ,WHEN MGS4 IS COMPARED WITH GAMES LIKE GEARS OF WAR OR BIOSHOCK OR MASS EFFECT IT FAILS TO IMPRESS ME.CONSIDERING HOW MUCH MORE COLOURFUL THOSE GAMES ARE ..AND IN MGS4 ALL THE SURROUNDINGS ARE GREENISH..SO WATS THE BIG DEAL...IF 360 CAN HANDLE BEAUTIFUL GAMES LIKE GEARS OF WAR AND LOST PLANET THEN MGS4 IS NOT A BIG DEAL AND TAKE THIS ALSO IN COSIDERATION THAT MGS4 DOESNT HAVE ANY PHYSICS AND THE FIRE LOOKS DISGUSTING .NOTE WAT HAPPENS TO THE AARMORED CAR WHEN IT IS HIT BY A ROCKET.....!NOTHING... SO PEOPLE STOP ALL THESE AND BE SURE THAT IT WILL COME TO THE 360 SOONER OR LATERjohnkio111

yeah im upset it isnt coming to 360 also. Hopefully i can convince a friend to do a console trade for a little while so i can play it

and by the way MGS is not some hyped stealth game. It invented the stealth genre and its going to annihalate Splinter cell conviction!zaokamura

MGS is one of the worst games I have ever played, unrealistic boring and lame graphics. If its a movie theatre experience, its the Dollar Theatre.

[QUOTE="zaokamura"]and by the way MGS is not some hyped stealth game. It invented the stealth genre and its going to annihalate Splinter cell conviction!tkemory

MGS is one of the worst games I have ever played, unrealistic boring and lame graphics. If its a movie theatre experience, its the Dollar Theatre.

It's just a stealth game. You can't say it sucks because it's unrealistic. Then I could say Halo sucked. Also, if you don't like the cinimatic experience and possibly the best story line in any game series ever, then it's your loss. You really don't know what you're missing.

I thought the story line was too confusing.kdt55

If you played MGS 1, 2 & 3, you should be hooked on the story. But not all is revealed yet. Yes, might be confusing. MGS4 will lay everything on the table though.

IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT 360 CANNOT HANDLE MGS4S GRAPHICS ....HUH!BIG DEAL .LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR ,WHEN MGS4 IS COMPARED WITH GAMES LIKE GEARS OF WAR OR BIOSHOCK OR MASS EFFECT IT FAILS TO IMPRESS ME.CONSIDERING HOW MUCH MORE COLOURFUL THOSE GAMES ARE ..AND IN MGS4 ALL THE SURROUNDINGS ARE GREENISH..SO WATS THE BIG DEAL...IF 360 CAN HANDLE BEAUTIFUL GAMES LIKE GEARS OF WAR AND LOST PLANET THEN MGS4 IS NOT A BIG DEAL AND TAKE THIS ALSO IN COSIDERATION THAT MGS4 DOESNT HAVE ANY PHYSICS AND THE FIRE LOOKS DISGUSTING .NOTE WAT HAPPENS TO THE AARMORED CAR WHEN IT IS HIT BY A ROCKET.....!NOTHING... SO PEOPLE STOP ALL THESE AND BE SURE THAT IT WILL COME TO THE 360 SOONER OR LATERjohnkio111

People aint just getting hyped bout MGS's graphics it the all around gameplay have you seen the video of the live gameplay how many other games have you seen do that lately!?

IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT 360 CANNOT HANDLE MGS4S GRAPHICS ....HUH!BIG DEAL .LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR ,WHEN MGS4 IS COMPARED WITH GAMES LIKE GEARS OF WAR OR BIOSHOCK OR MASS EFFECT IT FAILS TO IMPRESS ME.CONSIDERING HOW MUCH MORE COLOURFUL THOSE GAMES ARE ..AND IN MGS4 ALL THE SURROUNDINGS ARE GREENISH..SO WATS THE BIG DEAL...IF 360 CAN HANDLE BEAUTIFUL GAMES LIKE GEARS OF WAR AND LOST PLANET THEN MGS4 IS NOT A BIG DEAL AND TAKE THIS ALSO IN COSIDERATION THAT MGS4 DOESNT HAVE ANY PHYSICS AND THE FIRE LOOKS DISGUSTING .NOTE WAT HAPPENS TO THE AARMORED CAR WHEN IT IS HIT BY A ROCKET.....!NOTHING... SO PEOPLE STOP ALL THESE AND BE SURE THAT IT WILL COME TO THE 360 SOONER OR LATERjohnkio111

I bet you're a fanboy.

..AND IN MGS4 ALL THE SURROUNDINGS ARE GREENISH..johnkio111

LOL.

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I think that the hype about the 360 not being able to play MGS4 is just something that the fanboys of the ps3 kicked up becuase they were disapopinted with all the soso called sony loyal devs that were converting. Seriously i remember when i was hyped about the 360 and the ps3 comingout. i checked everyhting down to theterraflops that ecah console produced and i realised that a good developer would be able toprogram the game to produce the exact same image at tegh highest quality.

serioulsy, As if Mgs4 can push the limits of 3 power pc based cpu's and an excellent graphics card.

Its all down to the developers sony fanboys and how effectively they code the game.

Stall0wn3d

Exactly man. Metal Gear would not look, sound or play the same way on the 360 simply because of what you just said in your post. I'm not knocking the 360 at all, but certain things would have to be compressed/sacrificed to get this game to run.

Most of you people who are saying that Metal Gear Solid has crappy graphics and gameplay would greatly change your tune if it was coming for the 360. To say the graphics are crappy is a mega sized fanboy comment. The game looks awesome, and when you factor in the size and scope of the levels it's really quite impressive. To say that it looks better or worse then Gears of War is a matter of taste, but you can't argue that Gears of War had very small linear levels, where as MGS has huge, open levels. How would Gears have looked if the game was as big as MGS? We don't know the answer to that, but I'm guessing the visual quality would have diminished some.

I really can't stand that people are knocking MGS simply because it's been confirmed as a PS3 exclusive. So many people have been juding the PS3 based off of crappy ports of 360 games and that's horribly stupid. Games like Lair, MGS, and Killzone are showing what the PS3 is capable of, and nobody can deny how incredible those games look. Need I remind you what most first year 360 games looked like, especially compared to now?

My point is, is that you should not bash MGS simply because you can only get it on the PS3. I'm willing to bet that most people would quickly change their tune if MGS was coming to the 360. Set your bias aside for one minute and give credit where credit is due. The game looks fantastic and to say it doesn't because it's on the PS3 is just a biased fanboy comment. Mind you I'm not even a big MGS fan, I never have been, and although I'm going to try MGS 4, I've still never been a fan of the series. I can give credit where credit is due, why can't you?

Lmao fanboys are mad cause mgs4 is not coming out for the 360 so they talk trash on it being aweful. Jealousy.

Lmao fanboys are mad cause mgs4 is not coming out for the 360 so they talk trash on it being aweful. Jealousy.

bi0hazard187949

OR, maybe we just think the game is awful? Actually I dont know much about MGS4, but I have played the other 3 and don't really have any respect for the series. Keep in mind, some of us have our own mind and eyes and not everyone is going to like the game.

The Xbox 360 couldn't handle itGame_Lover70

Funny I remember hearing this about games that came out for the XBox, that eventually made it to the PS2. There is a much larger discrepancy between the XBox and the PS2 in regards of hardware than between the PS3 and XBox 360. If they wanted to they could release it on the 360 without any dumbing down. They may have to require you have a HD, but considering nothing is out yet that uses all 3 cores on the 360, I find it hard to believe anyone can judge whether the system can handle it.

Why all the hate for a game that's not even out yet? And all the slander about MGS's gameplay and graphics sucking? Wow...I remember playing the first MGS and being in awe with the realism in the stealth aspects, sneaking behind a crate outside in the snow and if a guard didn't already notice your footprints in the snow, he notices your breath from around the corner. I remember the game being very story driven, but also very engaging with a high amount of replay value.

I also remember playing the first Tenchu shortly before MGS, and seeing the difference graphically and gameplay wise, Especially at the time, MGS was one of the few games that made people say "holy crap! This is awesome!"

I can't help but laugh and shake my head when people who don't like stealth games boldly say that "MGS sucks" and "MGs graphics suck" and "blah blah blah"... I myself don't like sports games. Not in the least, I never have and that's just the way I am. But the last thing I would do is run off and say that sports games suck and blah blah blah.

And I am also wondering why haters are claiming that the 360 wouldn't be able to handle MGS4. What I've seen in MGS4 looks amazing. Extremely detailedand so much happening all at once...kind of like what I saw in the RE5 trailer, which as the haters may not have realized, is coming to the 360.

If the 360 can run GTA4, Oblivion, and RE5, then why would MGS4 be beyond it's capabilities?

IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT 360 CANNOT HANDLE MGS4S GRAPHICS ....HUH!BIG DEAL .LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR ,WHEN MGS4 IS COMPARED WITH GAMES LIKE GEARS OF WAR OR BIOSHOCK OR MASS EFFECT IT FAILS TO IMPRESS ME.CONSIDERING HOW MUCH MORE COLOURFUL THOSE GAMES ARE ..AND IN MGS4 ALL THE SURROUNDINGS ARE GREENISH..SO WATS THE BIG DEAL...IF 360 CAN HANDLE BEAUTIFUL GAMES LIKE GEARS OF WAR AND LOST PLANET THEN MGS4 IS NOT A BIG DEAL AND TAKE THIS ALSO IN COSIDERATION THAT MGS4 DOESNT HAVE ANY PHYSICS AND THE FIRE LOOKS DISGUSTING .NOTE WAT HAPPENS TO THE AARMORED CAR WHEN IT IS HIT BY A ROCKET.....!NOTHING... SO PEOPLE STOP ALL THESE AND BE SURE THAT IT WILL COME TO THE 360 SOONER OR LATERjohnkio111

IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF WHEN PEOPLE TYPE IN ALL CAPS, LIKE THEY'RE SCREAMING !!! AT YOU

MGS4 graphics are going to be great, the gameplay will be great, just because it is a mgs game and the storyline will finish off one of the best storylines of any game series.

IMO we will see a port of this game on the 360 in the future, to say that the 360 can't handle mgs4 is both true and untrue in some aspects, as it is programmed now on the ps3, the 360 would have a hard time running it, in the same respect, the game can be made to work on the 360, granted it might not look as good or play as good, because seldomly ports of games work as good as they do on the original console the were intended for but that doesn't mean that they aren't and can't be created. IMO it boils down to how much money Konami wants to make off of this project, if they feel like it isn't making the $ like they wanted it to, then they can create a port for this game if they haven't already.

Granted Kojima has said that he is creating the game for the ps3 and not the 360, but that doesn't mean that konami can't have a different group of developers work on the port.

So honestly it isn't about a next-gen machine being better than the other here, it is up to Konami what they want to do with the product. For honestly both of the systems could have a game created for them, there is dispute of which one it would look better for, but both of them power-wise could handle it.

Yer MGS is a great game and no the Xbox 360 couldn't handle it nor could the disk sizeGame_Lover70

I agree MGS is a great series, but I simply don't believe MGS4 can't be done on Xbox 360. I've seen more impressive things visually then MGS4, not to mention Kojima confirmed cutscenes will be in realtime opposed to big CGI files.

Since Mass Effect fits on one single DVD9, I have no reason to believe MGS4 couldn't fit on, say, two or less DVD9's.

First thing first. Stop talking in caps. All it does is make you look idiotic and juvenile.

Now, you say that Gears looks better etc. The thing is, Gears has small levels which are very linear and havent got any open spaces.

On the MGS4 demo I saw a huge level, with many many enemys roaming around (and fighting) which DONT suddenly spawn. To be honest, I actually cant be bothered to explain why the 360 couldnt handle MGS4. I know it couldnt, and anyone else with half a brain would agree with me.

VinnoT