I watched the 10 minute Halo Wars video and I can say I am very disapointed... My big beefs with the game are:
1, The A.I. I didn't like it much at all... The groups on each side would just stand there and shoot. Thats about it. They didn't move much at all. It was boring to watch.
2, The Phyics. They, in a word, suck. The warthogs move WAY to fast and they really really like that fish talling... It was over done. And when it jumps the canyon...YEAH RIGHT! That was just stupid. And the banshees movements were a bit strange.
What I think would have been cool is if they basically made a Halo:CE RTS. As in a RTS game with Halo 1 physics, graphics and A.I. It can't be that hard to do. That would be really cool.
It will obviously be improved, it won't be done until 2008. It should turn out well, Halo was originally an RTS anyway (you can find old vids of it, their pretty funny)
Well it's Ensemble Studios developing so if anyone knows how to make a good RTS game it's them. Givet hem some more time and i'm sure they will fine tune it.
well by the looks of it so far it seems to be like a black and white 2 kinda game like you have a base/town and you have to defend it with your troops etc. following the halo series. you have people opertating in that base like the people making warthogs etc. but the warthogs did move like they did in the halo games its just i couldnt believe the cayon jump.
The Physics suck, Shoot a grunt with a machinegun and it flies back 20 feet. Warthogs are too mobile and turn way too fast for a car, and are overpowered.
The Warthogs are SUPPOSED to be that fast. Read the books. In the games they're slowed down so you can control them. Think about this. It's FIVE HUNDRED YEARS in the future. Don't you think we would have increased the pickup on a humvee in that amount of time?
The Warthogs are SUPPOSED to be that fast. Read the books. In the games they're slowed down so you can control them. Think about this. It's FIVE HUNDRED YEARS in the future. Don't you think we would have increased the pickup on a humvee in that amount of time?Mecamatt
Go watch the video again, at the part where there is a huge battle. One of the warthogs was moving around like CRAZY. It was just to fast. And don't give me "the books!" crap. The books are based on the game and in the game they are slower. Forget the books.
The Physics suck, Shoot a grunt with a machinegun and it flies back 20 feet. Warthogs are too mobile and turn way too fast for a car, and are overpowered. Plasmabat
And watch the Elites shoot the wathog near that door beside the canyon. The warthog jerks around like nuts. its all wrong. And when the marines trow garnades at the grunts they don't even go flying. Infact they didn't even die!
[QUOTE="Mecamatt"]The Warthogs are SUPPOSED to be that fast. Read the books. In the games they're slowed down so you can control them. Think about this. It's FIVE HUNDRED YEARS in the future. Don't you think we would have increased the pickup on a humvee in that amount of time?WINO_BOT
Go watch the video again, at the part where there is a huge battle. One of the warthogs was moving around like CRAZY. It was just to fast. And don't give me "the books!" crap. The books are based on the game and in the game they are slower. Forget the books.
Acaully lot of the books are not based on the games....so there
[QUOTE="Plasmabat"]The Physics suck, Shoot a grunt with a machinegun and it flies back 20 feet. Warthogs are too mobile and turn way too fast for a car, and are overpowered. WINO_BOT
And watch the Elites shoot the wathog near that door beside the canyon. The warthog jerks around like nuts. its all wrong. And when the marines trow garnades at the grunts they don't even go flying. Infact they didn't even die!
and did you not see when one of the grunts methane tank got a hole in it he was flying all over the place.
i thought it looked alright, the canyon jump was kind of stupid and i have to admit the hags and banshees moved way to weird....the mac gun used on the scarab was kind of cool and besides this was the first playable version it is to early in developement to call it broken and besides its esemble studios they will make it worth the wait
I cant belive that the TC is making a big frekin deal over a game that is over a year away from being released. Now if that game was to come out next week then ok,i would complaint too, but jeez you do realize that this is just to show you what the game is gonna be like. Its only a demonstration!!! Im mind boggled that someone would even complain this early on in its development. You should be grateful that they are showing it this early on, this is the reason we dont get gamepley movies or anything nice from game developers. Usually at this stage all you get is game art and concept stuff.
Yea the AI is gonna be dumb when showing off a game you dont wanna get killed. So develpers either turn on god mode of make the AI stupid as hell depending on the situation. They wanna show the game off so you can get an early expectation of the game, You wouldnt wanna watch it and see him getting killed would you? I mean if he did get killed you would probably complain the the AI is too hard. Just chill out watch the game come along under development and enjoy that your getting a nice glimpse at what the game could be like!
this is an early version just like Starcraft 2 is right now. Yeah they are showing gameplay, but this shows they wen't out of their way just to show the game off. Anybody remember Starcraft:Ghost? That game had tons of demos of real gameplay, but it still got canceled (probably because it sucked but still). They can show off gameplay even in early development. Hell the game was announced last E3 and even Ensemble said they hadn't even been working on the game like at all (more like messing around with the idea and testing things out) so do you really think that they would show off a almost completed game only a year and a few months later?
It is early in development but even with that it doesn't mean it will improve... Just hope really. Anywho i am buying it firstly because it is Halo and secondly i want a console RTS (i loved Starcraft on the N64 and yes i own it on PC). My only problem with BFME II for the 360 was really the framerate, but this game is being made just for the 360 so it should be made with the hardware in mind (if they don't they suck at developing).
Really i would rather see Blizzard make, but then if they did it would come out on the next Xbox console (slowest developers ever... but i will wait because they make amazing games).
I watched the 10 minute Halo Wars video and I can say I am very disapointed... My big beefs with the game are:
1, The A.I. I didn't like it much at all... The groups on each side would just stand there and shoot. Thats about it. They didn't move much at all. It was boring to watch.
2, The Phyics. They, in a word, suck. The warthogs move WAY to fast and they really really like that fish talling... It was over done. And when it jumps the canyon...YEAH RIGHT! That was just stupid. And the banshees movements were a bit strange.
What I think would have been cool is if they basically made a Halo:CE RTS. As in a RTS game with Halo 1 physics, graphics and A.I. It can't be that hard to do. That would be really cool.
Anyone agree? WINO_BOT
1. The game is almost a year from release, the A.I. you saw was a early model of the finally version.
2. I agree about the fish tailing, but when playing a RTS, you need the characters to react instantly in the direction you set them to. So this fish-tailing is all for the gameplay to be better.
3. the game is A YEAR FROM RELEASE, they show you a early version to give you a taste of the game, to make you get hype, and you totally over analizeUNCOMPLETE GAME.
[QUOTE="WINO_BOT"][QUOTE="Plasmabat"]The Physics suck, Shoot a grunt with a machinegun and it flies back 20 feet. Warthogs are too mobile and turn way too fast for a car, and are overpowered. anubis8515
And watch the Elites shoot the wathog near that door beside the canyon. The warthog jerks around like nuts. its all wrong. And when the marines trow garnades at the grunts they don't even go flying. Infact they didn't even die!
and did you not see when one of the grunts methane tank got a hole in it he was flying all over the place.
I cant belive that the TC is making a big frekin deal over a game that is over a year away from being released. Now if that game was to come out next week then ok,i would complaint too, but jeez you do realize that this is just to show you what the game is gonna be like. Its only a demonstration!!! Im mind boggled that someone would even complain this early on in its development. You should be grateful that they are showing it this early on, this is the reason we dont get gamepley movies or anything nice from game developers. Usually at this stage all you get is game art and concept stuff.
Yea the AI is gonna be dumb when showing off a game you dont wanna get killed. So develpers either turn on god mode of make the AI stupid as hell depending on the situation. They wanna show the game off so you can get an early expectation of the game, You wouldnt wanna watch it and see him getting killed would you? I mean if he did get killed you would probably complain the the AI is too hard. Just chill out watch the game come along under development and enjoy that your getting a nice glimpse at what the game could be like!
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Dude, I know it will get better. I was just saying what I would like to see.
I think your right on the A.I. part, but I think that can be improved considering they haven't realeased a release date yet. It won't be no where near as good as Starcraft or warcraft, but i think it will be a good RTS.
I was very disappointed by the demo too. The "stand and shoot" mechanics seemed very last gen compared to games like Endwar and CoH. Everybody knows that in halo, you cannot stand still or you will die. Likewise, you have to keep driving your warthog around or you will die.
I don't think the AI will get much better in the final version. If you were a developer, would you show off a game with half-completed AI? Would Gears have been demoed if the cover feature wasn't available? If the units are supposed to be moving around or taking cover, it would have been a very impressive and important feature and they would have waited until they could implement that feature before they showed the game.
The Physics suck, Shoot a grunt with a machinegun and it flies back 20 feet. Warthogs are too mobile and turn way too fast for a car, and are overpowered. Plasmabat
OMG, you rae dumb hahahahhahahahahaha. Jesus please...
I thought the game looked disappointing, but not for the reasons you mentioned. I thought the warthog movements were very well done, and I love it when vehicles move fast in RTS games instead of being ridiculously slow.
The game looked nice and seemed very entertaining, but it didn't seem to offer anything "new". For someone like me who sucks at traditional RTS, this game doesn't seem to provide anything that would make me play a strategy game if I haven't played one before, and I had expected Halo Wars to cater to the RTS-newb in some interesting way.
ooo ok then im sorry maybe i missunderstood you but it you made it seem like you tore the game apart. Yes the game will get better dont worry. Its the Halo name thats on the line.
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