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Downloadable content has transformed the video game industry in more ways than one, and the extra content released for a game after its launch can certainly provide additional lasting appeal. On the contrary, there are legions of complainers out there, berating the fact that the content exists on the actual game disc from the start, the full game with everything is going to run up to $120 from $60, etc. Here's what I have to say: people don't realize that video games are perhaps the most economically efficient forms of entertainment. That $60 that bought you your copy of that game you've logged days and days on end of play time, be it Fallout 3, Red Dead Redemption, or Skyrim, could have instead been spent on just one day at an amusement park, just a couple of dinners out, or in the case of you heavy smokers out there, just a few days' nicotine fix. Granted, some of those activities may be somewhat more fun than sitting around gaming, but you see the point. Complainers here also may not realize what goes into developing both the video game itself and downloadable content. Game developers run a business that needs to make money, much like any other industry. And like everyone else, they need to employ tactics to ensure profitability. In case you have your own TV subscription, when you call Verizon FiOS to set a channel up, don't they deluge you with offers to buy other channels so you just keep mounting that monthly bill? Also that should be realized is the amount of effort it takes to develop something like, say, the upcoming Dragonborn DLC for Skyrim. Effort that often leads to great amounts of stress at AAA-level developers as they fight to make deadlines. It's going to be $20, and yes, I'm sure there are a handful of PC mods that let you fly a dragon. But even if you are a PC gamer, that $20 can get you something professionally made, rather than make you at the mercy of an individual modder that may not possess the talent to create a dragon-flying add-on the likes of what Bethesda will do. Game designers are cogs in a machine, and their lives turn all the more heart-racing when deadlines approach. And we should complain that will cost over $100 to unlock everything on the game disc?

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#2 ristactionjakso

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What about CAPCOM raping the Street Fighter DLC?

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What about CAPCOM raping the Street Fighter DLC?
ristactionjakso

You wouldn't buy it then if you don't want it. Same goes with games themselves.

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#4 ristactionjakso

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[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]
What about CAPCOM raping the Street Fighter DLC?
NicAgent

You wouldn't buy it then if you don't want it. Same goes with games themselves.

I don't even have the game, just hate their practices.

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#5 drunkin_donuts

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I feel that the video game industry needs to be selling these DLC's. It not only gives us new adventrues to play in our games that we have already mastered, but it also helps give money to those developers who are spending countless hours creating these great experiences for us to, well... experience. IT can give the creators another way to write a new story that doesnt have to completely fit and/or make sense to the original game. Try to understand it doesnt take 100 people to make a video game, it takes thousands of people to do just one component to a videogame. And i put my bottom dollar that those people are not getting paid for the amount of stress and work they endure. Let alone the weight of having to compile thoughts collectively and making them make sense. They worked extremely hard on these titles for US, so what if they want to add a new fun dungeon and charge us $20 for it. For example I love the borderlands games and as they all launched.. I payed $20 for each. In my opinion i feel they were each worth the $20 because it gave a reason to throw that game back into my 360 and it entertained me for coutnless more hours. Ina nutshell i believe DLC is a vital part to keeping this industry growing and innovative. Otherwise we would have to buy the game for 60 dollars and just wait possible YEARS for the next installment o anything for that matter

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So you'd prefer a retreat to the days where, if you wanted more of the same style gameplay, you'd have to wait a year or more and then buy a sequel at full price? Where you have to start again from scratch, berating the fact that the new game makes you start as the lowest level character with crappy armour and weapons, having to learn moves that you knew and used so freely the year before. Whereas now, with a game like Borderlands 2, you can continue the adventure in themed DLC packs which open up whole new areas, and adventures with what works out as basically a sequel (especially if you buy all of them at once or buy an Ultimate Edition type version of the game) paying a smaller fee, allowing you to play through these new areas with your old, already levelled up, character. People moan about on disk DLC and have every right to, it's on the disk, its been deliberately locked out to charge for at a later date when it should have been included in the full game with the rest of the stuff on the disk that you already paid for only to have them charge $15 for a small unlock key. I love DLC but I won't slavishly buy ever piece that is released, I had a great time playing Dawnguard but fail to see the attraction of Heathfire for Skyrim... so I don't buy it.

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You do realize that the money from the initial sell of the game and the DLC does not infact go to the game developers. The money brought in from game sales and DLC goes straight to the corperation that own the rights to the game. IE EA. it's these parent companies that rape the benefits not the hard working developers.

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well, there are 2 sources of unwanted money drain in the game industry, and they kind of balance each other. The first is, as you say, DLC, and in particular day 1 DLC. Having day 1 DLC locked on the disk quite frankly is questionable from a legal point of view with regard to consumer rights. It just hasn't been tested in court.

The flip side of this, providing balance, is week 1 trade ins. Week 1 trade ins allow stores to make more profit than from unsold copies and at the same time, week 1 trade ins ride on the coat tails of release day advertising; for which the game stores do not conrtibute a penny.

Both of these things suck and need some sort of resolution.

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#10 sharpshooter188

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Topic creator. As much as I would royally destroy your argument. I would simply forward you this link. This man basically sums up all of my thoughts. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/6755-Breaking-the-Bones-of-Business But aside from that, the pc mod community almost always creates some pretty nice stuff. If I had a decent rig, then I too would delve into it. I would certainly trust the community modders than the suits.

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#11 sharpshooter188

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Oh and also http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/6814-Companies-Exist-To-Make-Money

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#12 The_Last_Ride

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Now i don't mind DLC's if they are well made, the only deal for me is if they are putting the effort to a DLC for day one or even week 1 when the game has been released which is something wrong. They should rather have put that in the game itself rather than a cash grab. I don't buy those unless i find the game to be really, really good. Also people will buy these things no matter what. I don't mind giving out money for a good dlc. But making crappy DLC's for a good game or just a way to get some money is wrong

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#13 jetjetjaguar

Member since 2011 • 192 Posts

Good, well reasoned topic. Glad that you mention the "bang for the buck" factor. That matters a lot to me. I still feel that books have the best value for dollars spent but, last time I checked, not everyone loves to read. A great game justifies $60, no problem. However, despite a lot of research and demo playing, I get a great game about one out of every five purchases.

I have had a poor history with DLC. When I have bought it it didn't live up the to price/promise. Not having it has never bothered me. More maps? I don't care. I stink at the current maps. Sell me a "boot camp" DLC that will train me to be better at the multiplayer! More stories? My favorite story games come to a conclusion such that any further storytelling would feel odd. Maybe for some games that could be presented this way, sell the first game as "Vol 1" at a lower price point and then lower the price of the DLC (Vol's 2, 3, 4, ....) as well? Kind of like what is done with a graphic novel series. Might work with some games. I dunno....

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#14 boredom_kills

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I have no issues whatsoever with DLC providing it isn't stuff that's blatantly been ripped from the game in the first place. Where that's been done, or I think that's what's happened, I vote with my wallet and don't buy it **eyes Assassin's Creed 2**.

However, good, well designed DLC can add a lot to an already awesome game - think Fallout 3 and Borderlands.

Basically, I'll buy it if I want it. If I don't want it or get a sense that it's been produced unfairly as above, that company gets no money from me for it. Simple. Development studios are businesses - treat them that way. If you like what they do and how, support them. If you don't, don't.

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What about CAPCOM raping the Street Fighter DLC?
ristactionjakso

Wait till next-gen....then you will see the true meaning of rape:|

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[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]
What about CAPCOM raping the Street Fighter DLC?
MarcRecon

Wait till next-gen....then you will see the true meaning of rape:|

:(

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[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]
[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]
What about CAPCOM raping the Street Fighter DLC?
Vari3ty

Wait till next-gen....then you will see the true meaning of rape:|

:(

I know that was a little harsh but you know it isn't far from the truth.:P

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