What the hell happened to the new chip?

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#1 Eye_See
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The only real reason to buy the elite 360 is for the bigger harddrive, the color, and hdmi...  I remember hearing rumors (they are called romors for a reason, i know) that there would be a new chip in the elite system.  I thought they were going to fix all the hardware problems that the 360 has with new hardware.  However, I guess they are just shipping a pricier piece of crap.  I have dealt with 3 broken 360s, as many others have as well, and I was hoping this new version would fix the problem.  Instead, they are just going to get more money for more broken systems. 
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#2 skylerpwns
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They must have decided on a cost by cost basis that the new chip wasn't worth including in the new system.
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#3 Southwind20C
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The problems have obviously been worked out. Most of the newer systems don't get the three rings. I've had mine for about 10 months, still runs like new.
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#4 Mike_K_2003
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The problems have obviously been worked out. Most of the newer systems don't get the three rings. I've had mine for about 10 months, still runs like new.Southwind20C
Yeah same here. I wouldn't be surprised if they still come out with the new chip but only if it adds too the profit line, if not then I can see it being one of those "that was just a rumour" lines from MS.
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#5 Army_Veteran
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I dont think there was really a big problem, just the first batch. I have had my 360 for a year and ony got the 3 red lights because I had the intercoller attaches, It was not getting enough power to the 360, took it off and just fine.
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#6 tkemory
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I was under the impression the newer chip would be cheaper (to help with production cost). I dont recall reading anything about it being significantly better.
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#7 tgschmidt
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I was under the impression the newer chip would be cheaper (to help with production cost). I dont recall reading anything about it being significantly better.tkemory
you're right. people like to make up stuff a lot on the boards though.
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#8 Cabal23
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Not sure where people were getting the info on a new chip, but I have searched and I can't find one shred of emprical evidence supporting that claim. Why would they do such a thing. All they would be doing is alienating their customer base who has already purchased the original. That was never the intention and never will be. That is why they make PC's and Microsoft has been speaking the mantra "The Xbox is not a PC" over and over. The next processor will be the next iteration of the Xbox, whatever that may bring 3-5 years down the road.
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[QUOTE="tkemory"]I was under the impression the newer chip would be cheaper (to help with production cost). I dont recall reading anything about it being significantly better.tgschmidt
you're right. people like to make up stuff a lot on the boards though.

Actually he is wrong. The new chips are 65nm Xeons as opposed to the current 90nm Xeons. As any computer aficionado can tell you, a 90nm chip will use more power and create more heat than it's 65nm counterparts which are lower voltage but produce the same clock cycles.

The new 65nm processors will lower production costs, increasing MS's profits, and will possibly (but highly unlikely) result in a new lower price for the console. Not only that, but the console will produce less heat as 65nm use much less power than 90nm processors. Quieter fans will be installed and the console's heat issues shouldn't be as extreme (kiss those aftermarket intercoolers good bye.)

It isn't made up, the results will be huge, and the processors ARE comming. We just have to wait until MS uses up all of the current 90nm processors they have in stock before a product refresh.

Also, here is your evidence.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6148098.html 

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=16267

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/10754/Chartered-to-Manufacture-65nm-Xbox-360-CPUs/ 

http://www.fabtech.org/content/view/1443 

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/7494.cfm 

Alot of it is old news from almost a year ago, but it still holds true. The updated hardware is comming this fall, however, and not this spring. 

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#10 Fumpa
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Not sure where people were getting the info on a new chip, but I have searched and I can't find one shred of emprical evidence supporting that claim. Why would they do such a thing. All they would be doing is alienating their customer base who has already purchased the original. That was never the intention and never will be. That is why they make PC's and Microsoft has been speaking the mantra "The Xbox is not a PC" over and over. The next processor will be the next iteration of the Xbox, whatever that may bring 3-5 years down the road.Cabal23
the new chip, if i recall correctly, is supposed to be smaller and run cooler and be cheaper to produce. i don't think that they'd be alienating anyone by producing systems with these new chips as they weren't supposed to improve the processing speed performance.

i'm pretty sure that sony did something similar with their ps2 so it's not so uncommon and it really wouldn't bother me at all if i was a present owner of a system and a new chip was released...provided it was as i described above.
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#11 Ubawalla
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The problems have obviously been worked out. Most of the newer systems don't get the three rings. I've had mine for about 10 months, still runs like new.Southwind20C
nope, had mine for three and wont read disks, no lights either. Unplayable Disk- gotta love it!
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#12 alxy_07
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I was hoping that the new smaller chips would be brought in with the elite, so then when i buy a 360 in may it would have it.  Looks now like it wont happen till later this year ; (
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#13 0ldb0y
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me too I would have replaced my 360 for a new one if it had a 65nm chip & a HD drive... this elite version sucks ass. Fix your hardware microsoft !
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#14 xspawn69
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I actually got my 360 the day it came out. Haven't had a problem with it yet
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#15 DeltaTeam
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Not sure where people were getting the info on a new chip, but I have searched and I can't find one shred of emprical evidence supporting that claim. Why would they do such a thing. All they would be doing is alienating their customer base who has already purchased the original. That was never the intention and never will be. That is why they make PC's and Microsoft has been speaking the mantra "The Xbox is not a PC" over and over. The next processor will be the next iteration of the Xbox, whatever that may bring 3-5 years down the road.Cabal23
The Xbox 360 chip right now is a 90nm chip, the new one that they ARE developing is a 65nm chip. The company signed on to the task of creating this chip claims that this new chip will runner at cooler temperatures, be cheaper to develop, and possibly increase core speeds. search Xbox 360 New CPU on google.
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#16 darkserpent213
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I was under the impression the newer chip would be cheaper (to help with production cost). I dont recall reading anything about it being significantly better.tkemory
The new chip takes up less power to run it.