Why do people hate on Treyarch?!?!?!

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#1 BloodFreezer456
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All Treyarch did was make the max level 65 instead of 55 and hey are continuing to make make more awsome zombie levels in COD WAW.Why do people think Infinity Ward is soo much better?!?!?!?

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#2 PlasmaBeam44
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Because Infinity Ward created Call of Duty and then Activision said "Hmmmm, we can milk this to death by putting out 1 game a year and have Treyarch make the ones we use to milk the franchise and Infinity Ward will make the real ones". IW made COD4 which is one of the best FPS games this generation. Then Treyarch took that game and slapped a WW2 theme on it and called it a day. The only reason W@W is good is because of that. Every other game Treyarch has made has been sub-par to garbage, including COD3.

I've played both COD4 and W@W. COD4 feels like it has more heart and soul whereas W@W feels like a cash in and rip off.

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#3 brandontwb
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Because Infinity Ward created Call of Duty and then Activision said "Hmmmm, we can milk this to death by putting out 1 game a year and have Treyarch make the ones we use to milk the franchise and Infinity Ward will make the real ones". IW made COD4 which is one of the best FPS games this generation. Then Treyarch took that game and slapped a WW2 theme on it and called it a day. The only reason W@W is good is because of that. Every other game Treyarch has made has been sub-par to garbage, including COD3.

I've played both COD4 and W@W. COD4 feels like it has more heart and soul whereas W@W feels like a cash in and rip off.

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They didn't say IW was "to make the real ones." Also, what makes you think WaW is a rip off? Never really stated. I think the reason Treyach is hated so much because of COD3 in which they were forced to make in 1 year for all consoles. That gave them a bad rep and since then everyone has been talking bad about them and people started in change their minds into thinking IW is superior. WaW was a great game. The whole series is milked by Activision but it doesn't take away from the fact that it's actually good.
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#4 Ilikemyname420
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Just going off the last game: too many crippling multiplayer glitches for months and months without patches for them(on every bloody platform to boot), the tanks in multiplayer unbalanced the gameplay and were a mindless addition, spent little time on evening out the multiplayer levels, and the last and worst is they litterally tried to copy COD4's gameplay without adding anything to it but gimmicks.......leaving us waiting for IW to jump start the series again with or without the Call of duty title added to it.

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#5 cametall
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Treyarch are one of these devs that is contracted out to make games for other developers/publishers kind of like Raven (except Raven is awesome). I never played CoD3 but I really don't know too many people that cared for it.
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#7 uncle4
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All Treyarch did was make the max level 65 instead of 55 and hey are continuing to make make more awsome zombie levels in COD WAW.Why do people think Infinity Ward is soo much better?!?!?!?

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Because aside from the zombie game they really didn't do anything new
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#8 jrabbit99
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b/c Modern Warfare was a revolutionary step for the franchise which Treyarch copied with World at War
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#9 Legolas_Katarn
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Don't most people think that WaW is one of the only games that they did well?
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#10 Pdiddy105
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Because its Treyarch. If activision went ahead and slapped infinity Ward's logo on the cover instead of Treyarch's nobody would be complaining.

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#11 eagles_band
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Its simple, IW makes better games.

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#12 moose_knuckler
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Its simple, IW makes better games.

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Basically this, but I do love CoD3 and WaW.
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#13 StealthKnife
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All Treyarch did was make the max level 65 instead of 55 and hey are continuing to make make more awsome zombie levels in COD WAW.Why do people think Infinity Ward is soo much better?!?!?!?

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cod4 is better, but zombie is fun
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#14 ieatnoobs18
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I have no problems with treyarch. I like cod 3, and i love caod waw.
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Just going off the last game: too many crippling multiplayer glitches for months and months without patches for them(on every bloody platform to boot), the tanks in multiplayer unbalanced the gameplay and were a mindless addition, spent little time on evening out the multiplayer levels, and the last and worst is they litterally tried to copy COD4's gameplay without adding anything to it but gimmicks.......leaving us waiting for IW to jump start the series again with or without the Call of duty title added to it.

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this is pretty much spot on. great post dude.
Treyarch are one of these devs that is contracted out to make games for other developers/publishers kind of like Raven (except Raven is awesome). I never played CoD3 but I really don't know too many people that cared for it.cametall
i own it but thats only to complete the series. i honestly and im being TOTALLY honest, had to force myself to beat this game. definatly the WORST in the series by far no matter the reason
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#16 mixmax5
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I don't hate them it's just that I like what IW does a lot better.

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#17 chaoscougar1
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because treyarch ctrl+c ctrl+v everything infinity ward has done?
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#18 slvrraven9
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Because its Treyarch. If activision went ahead and slapped infinity Ward's logo on the cover instead of Treyarch's nobody would be complaining.

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you my friend obviously cant tell the difference in quality....and im not simply talikng COD3 to 4.
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#19 Shrapnel99
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Because it's the cool thing to do. :roll:

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#20 Ruhdezee
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because modern warfare was an innovation for games and everyone says... "wow if modern warfare took 2 steps forward then the next game should take 6 !! " and when the game isnt godly they get all mad and blame the developers for their sky high expectations

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#21 darkmoney52
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I actually thought the WaW campaign was a lot better than CoD4's(I never understood all the praise it got) Playing as bloodthirsy Russians out for revenge was a blast. And you could say that the blood was unnessecary, but it made the shooting a bit more satisfying, and didn't feel unrealistic or exaggerated.

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#22 chaoscougar1
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because modern warfare was an innovation for games and everyone says... "wow if modern warfare took 2 steps forward then the next game should take 6 !! " and when the game isnt godly they get all mad and blame the developers for their sky high expectations

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hahaha no, CoD 4 was not an innovation, it just changed CoD to a modern setting and did it very well, it wasnt the first game to be set in current times
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b/c Modern Warfare was a revolutionary step for the franchise which Treyarch copied with World at Warjrabbit99

revolutionary step for the series? Wow, i didnt think taht was the case at all. IMO Call Of Duty 1 is still the best in the series. COD4 didnt revolutionize anything. Yes it was a very solid and popular online game, but nothing revolutionary imo.

To me COD4 felt like a copy of Call Of Duty1,2,3, along with Ghsot Recon, Counterstrike and Rainbow6. Just seemed to be a copy of all those other shooters imo. But thats probably just me who felt that way.

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[QUOTE="jrabbit99"]b/c Modern Warfare was a revolutionary step for the franchise which Treyarch copied with World at Warkozzy1234

revolutionary step for the series? Wow, i didnt think taht was the case at all. IMO Call Of Duty 1 is still the best in the series. COD4 didnt revolutionize anything. Yes it was a very solid and popular online game, but nothing revolutionary imo.

To me COD4 felt like a copy of Call Of Duty1,2,3, along with Ghsot Recon, Counterstrike and Rainbow6. Just seemed to be a copy of all those other shooters imo. But thats probably just me who felt that way.

I think it's kind of revolutionary. With weapon perks and attachments to guns.
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="jrabbit99"]b/c Modern Warfare was a revolutionary step for the franchise which Treyarch copied with World at Warbrandontwb

revolutionary step for the series? Wow, i didnt think taht was the case at all. IMO Call Of Duty 1 is still the best in the series. COD4 didnt revolutionize anything. Yes it was a very solid and popular online game, but nothing revolutionary imo.

To me COD4 felt like a copy of Call Of Duty1,2,3, along with Ghsot Recon, Counterstrike and Rainbow6. Just seemed to be a copy of all those other shooters imo. But thats probably just me who felt that way.

I think it's kind of revolutionary. With weapon perks and attachments to guns.

oh yeh, they never existed before CoD 4 :roll:
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[QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

Because Infinity Ward created Call of Duty and then Activision said "Hmmmm, we can milk this to death by putting out 1 game a year and have Treyarch make the ones we use to milk the franchise and Infinity Ward will make the real ones". IW made COD4 which is one of the best FPS games this generation. Then Treyarch took that game and slapped a WW2 theme on it and called it a day. The only reason W@W is good is because of that. Every other game Treyarch has made has been sub-par to garbage, including COD3.

I've played both COD4 and W@W. COD4 feels like it has more heart and soul whereas W@W feels like a cash in and rip off.

brandontwb

They didn't say IW was "to make the real ones." Also, what makes you think WaW is a rip off? Never really stated. I think the reason Treyach is hated so much because of COD3 in which they were forced to make in 1 year for all consoles. That gave them a bad rep and since then everyone has been talking bad about them and people started in change their minds into thinking IW is superior. WaW was a great game. The whole series is milked by Activision but it doesn't take away from the fact that it's actually good.

"Also, what makes you think WaW is a rip off?"

Is that some joke question? what haven't they ripped off? apart from zombie mode. do you even own cod4?

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b/c Modern Warfare was a revolutionary step for the franchise which Treyarch copied with World at Warjrabbit99
There was nothing revolutionary about COD4 except that it was modern warfare.It was a great game no doubt but its success was due to series and genre staples in a new light, nothing revolutionary about that.

Because its Treyarch. If activision went ahead and slapped infinity Ward's logo on the cover instead of Treyarch's nobody would be complaining.

Pdiddy105
Yeah thats pretty much it, people are fanboys and they need to hate on something. Did anyone think the only reason Treyarch made WAW so close to MW is because everyone act as if they were going to create sepuuku when they found out that IW wasn't handling the next game. Its just smart and necessary business to try and emulate what they want because people made up thier mind about how much the game was going to suck even before they saw a screenshot.
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#28 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

revolutionary step for the series? Wow, i didnt think taht was the case at all. IMO Call Of Duty 1 is still the best in the series. COD4 didnt revolutionize anything. Yes it was a very solid and popular online game, but nothing revolutionary imo.

To me COD4 felt like a copy of Call Of Duty1,2,3, along with Ghsot Recon, Counterstrike and Rainbow6. Just seemed to be a copy of all those other shooters imo. But thats probably just me who felt that way.

chaoscougar1

I think it's kind of revolutionary. With weapon perks and attachments to guns.

oh yeh, they never existed before CoD 4 :roll:

Well not nearly as refined as COD4's.

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#29 brandontwb
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[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

Because Infinity Ward created Call of Duty and then Activision said "Hmmmm, we can milk this to death by putting out 1 game a year and have Treyarch make the ones we use to milk the franchise and Infinity Ward will make the real ones". IW made COD4 which is one of the best FPS games this generation. Then Treyarch took that game and slapped a WW2 theme on it and called it a day. The only reason W@W is good is because of that. Every other game Treyarch has made has been sub-par to garbage, including COD3.

I've played both COD4 and W@W. COD4 feels like it has more heart and soul whereas W@W feels like a cash in and rip off.

821dan128

They didn't say IW was "to make the real ones." Also, what makes you think WaW is a rip off? Never really stated. I think the reason Treyach is hated so much because of COD3 in which they were forced to make in 1 year for all consoles. That gave them a bad rep and since then everyone has been talking bad about them and people started in change their minds into thinking IW is superior. WaW was a great game. The whole series is milked by Activision but it doesn't take away from the fact that it's actually good.

"Also, what makes you think WaW is a rip off?"

Is that some joke question? what haven't they ripped off? apart from zombie mode. do you even own cod4?

I was responding when he said he somehow magically "felt" that COD4 had more 'heart and soul' when these thoughts could be given from the fact that people talk trash about Treyarch and all praise on Infinity Ward. Yes I own COD4 and WaW did copy a lot of elements but it wasn't a rip off.
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#30 SpinoRaptor24
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I don't hate Treyarch, I just don't like their COD games as much as IW.

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[QUOTE="821dan128"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]They didn't say IW was "to make the real ones." Also, what makes you think WaW is a rip off? Never really stated. I think the reason Treyach is hated so much because of COD3 in which they were forced to make in 1 year for all consoles. That gave them a bad rep and since then everyone has been talking bad about them and people started in change their minds into thinking IW is superior. WaW was a great game. The whole series is milked by Activision but it doesn't take away from the fact that it's actually good.brandontwb

"Also, what makes you think WaW is a rip off?"

Is that some joke question? what haven't they ripped off? apart from zombie mode. do you even own cod4?

I was responding when he said he somehow magically "felt" that COD4 had more 'heart and soul' when these thoughts could be given from the fact that people talk trash about Treyarch and all praise on Infinity Ward. Yes I own COD4 and WaW did copy a lot of elements but it wasn't a rip off.

well seeing as IW and Treyarch were given the SAME engine to make a game in the SAME series and built the games at the SAME time, I'd assume the games would be alike? Plus WaW is way more fun.

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well seeing as IW and Treyarch were given the SAME engine to make a game in the SAME series and built the games at the SAME time, I'd assume the games would be alike?...simardbrad

I like this. Do you really think after MW came out and was a huge success that Activision would tell Treyarch to go ahead and do whatever they wanted to and try to innovate however they wanted? The publisher here, being a publicly traded company who can't take a whole lot of risks for their investors right now, probably told them to push the game as close to MW as they could. I think a lot of people don't like WaW because they either feel that WW2 is played out or they didn't feel the weapons in MP were as "uber" as they were in MW. If MW2 changes a bunch and sucks, would people still be so IW-happy?

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#33 mimic-Denmark
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[QUOTE="BloodFreezer456"]

All Treyarch did was make the max level 65 instead of 55 and hey are continuing to make make more awsome zombie levels in COD WAW.Why do people think Infinity Ward is soo much better?!?!?!?

uncle4

Because aside from the zombie game they really didn't do anything new

Infinity havent done much new since the first Call of Duty. Still the same kind of single player, but with a new theme. Multiplayer wasnt new, Battlefield had done those things before it.

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#34 XXGamerfanXX
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I think its because half the people are Infinity Ward fanboys and that's the truth. I found treyarch a good company, but i do agree that they do create some bad games, but atleast they did good with COD WaW (A copy of COD 4 with a few tweaks) and add a zombie mode to it. I just guess their all Infinity Ward fanboys, but that's just me. I found them both great company's.
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I love WaW, it's grwat IMO, CoD4 is just as fun.

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#36 slvrraven9
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i think the real reason people dont like treyarch as muhc as IW aside from the COD 3 debacle is because at the time COD4 came out we were still feeling the effectsof this crap with 9/11. now since the game features heavily in the middle east, people kinda have a face to go with the villain. also after COD3 being so subpar and then COD4 coming out and being this stellar entry in the COD franchise now kinda puts a sour taste in peoples mouths when they speak of treyarch. i cant deny that W@W is a great game hell son, the coop alone was an answer to my prayers! but treyarch never took as big a step with a COD game like IW did with COD4 coming after 3.. also i really dont like the vehicles in treyarchs multiplayer. horrible idea.....but im sure thats just my opinion
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#37 d-high29
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idk i thought WaW was a great game

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i think the real reason people dont like treyarch as muhc as IW aside from the COD 3 debacle is because at the time COD4 came out we were still feeling the effectsof this crap with 9/11. now since the game features heavily in the middle east, people kinda have a face to go with the villain. also after COD3 being so subpar and then COD4 coming out and being this stellar entry in the COD franchise now kinda puts a sour taste in peoples mouths when they speak of treyarch. i cant deny that W@W is a great game hell son, the coop alone was an answer to my prayers! but treyarch never took as big a step with a COD game like IW did with COD4 coming after 3.. also i really dont like the vehicles in treyarchs multiplayer. horrible idea.....but im sure thats just my opinionslvrraven9
I play hardcore so I don't have the vehicle problem :P But I feel where you're coming from on the 3-4-WaW issue. I just think people like to stick to what they know and when something new comes along they are immediately skeptical of it.
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]I think it's kind of revolutionary. With weapon perks and attachments to guns.brandontwb

oh yeh, they never existed before CoD 4 :roll:

Well not nearly as refined as COD4's.

Rainbow Six vegas came out ayear before call of duty and handled add ons pretty well
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#40 xgiantnomadx
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treyarchs weapons for multiplayer are way too unbalanced.

multiplayer maps have no creativity. whatsoever.

Treyarch still cant solve the modded controller controversy.

Treyarch did a horrible job on how the host is created. too many gamers who quit.

treyarch didntput in a4 player split screen zombies? (its still fun but to system link zombies is terrible)

treyarch hasnt solved the mystery on how people get to level 5555 or 7888 on zombies. either delete the scores or ban them from zombies.

all of this is why everyone is hating on Treyarch.

they threw a rip off game (off Cod 4) and basically didnt fix the things that count. no polish on what Cod 4 left off.

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#41 aero250
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They are simply not as good as Infinity ward at making games.
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#42 darthsnail
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treyarch got a tough deal with cod3, they were caught between a rock nd a hard place. nobody expected them to make a good game and they lived upto xpectations. cod3 was crap. we know.

that doesnt mean that the company is rubbish, i got plenty of enjoyment from cod5. people are just narrow minded and they refuse to accept anything can be better than cod4. theyre just narrow minded and scared to try anythin thats new, even if its just slightly so

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#43 d_mazter
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I would say its because Treyarch just painted a WWII landscape over the game engine of COD4.