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Don't know what you mean about kissing up to online racists exactly, but i either mute anyone who annoys me (which is 90% of the people) or i just turn down the sound.... problem fixed.
Still though don't know what you mean.
[QUOTE="steveo2000"]this is why im so looking forward to the 8 person party chat. I will never have to listen to anyone not on my friends list ever again.usule
Agreed! can't wait for the 8 person party chat...
will you be able to use the party chat in game though?
[QUOTE="usule"][QUOTE="steveo2000"]this is why im so looking forward to the 8 person party chat. I will never have to listen to anyone not on my friends list ever again.adders99
Agreed! can't wait for the 8 person party chat...
will you be able to use the party chat in game though?
yeah you can im sure.
[QUOTE="usule"][QUOTE="steveo2000"]this is why im so looking forward to the 8 person party chat. I will never have to listen to anyone not on my friends list ever again.adders99
Agreed! can't wait for the 8 person party chat...
will you be able to use the party chat in game though?
I dont believe so, the whole point there was only 2 person chat is so people could not cheat in clan matches. such as one player dies and informs the team where every other enemy is. For that reason I think part chat is limited to dashboard and arcade games, otherwise it would effect MLG greatly.
Thats why I only play multiplayer with friends, and if none are on I dont use my mics :lol:Matt-4542
I got tired of racist online, so I did the same thing. It lasted for about a day, that just takes the fun out of it. Face it.....if everyone on XBL had respect for each other, better yet themselves it would be outstanding. I guess thats true with the world. Shows us how crazy the world can be.
People espouse racist views online because, in short, anonymity bars others from retaliating.
Secondly, people (ranging from children to adults) emulate or validate this behaviour for a number of reasons, most of which are rather complex. For instance, a general study in race relations through Culutural Anthropology (with reference to Pyschology) will provide information on WHY the majority of these people are either of European or African descent (hahaha! so politically correct....). Our collective cultural or national history, regardless of whatever "liberal" or "P.C." ideologies or status quos have been adopted, still informs what could be called "race relations." While the integration of various ethnicities and cultures within the greater dominant culture can contribute to multi-cultural unity, compassion, or understanding, it can also have the opposite effect. Also, there are other factors that contribute to parochial perspectives on "race" such as family history, region of origin, and socio-economic status. Furthermore, while children and the unintelligent comprise the majority of this group, there are exceptions, especially in the world of online interaction. What's worse is that humans, like all other animals, are predisposed to engage in group think. A major reason why you will find more white kids saying "Ni**ger" than black or Latino kids saying "peckerwood....honky...." or "gringo" is that the majority of Xbox 360 owners are in fact white. Remember, I'm white, so I can spell out the entirety of peckerwood, honky, and gringo. Assuming that white people tend to be more racist than black people because of this is a slippery slope, a fallacy.
I hope that was an adequate answer?
People espouse racist views online because, in short, anonymity bars others from retaliating.
Secondly, people (ranging from children to adults) emulate or validate this behaviour for a number of reasons, most of which are rather complex. For instance, a general study in race relations through Culutural Anthropology (with reference to Pyschology) will provide information on WHY the majority of these people are either of European or African descent (hahaha! so politically correct....). Our collective cultural or national history, regardless of whatever "liberal" or "P.C." ideologies or status quos have been adopted, still informs what could be called "race relations." While the integration of various ethnicities and cultures within the greater dominant culture can contribute to multi-cultural unity, compassion, or understanding, it can also have the opposite effect. Also, there are other factors that contribute to parochial perspectives on "race" such as family history, region of origin, and socio-economic status. Furthermore, while children and the unintelligent comprise the majority of this group, there are exceptions, especially in the world of online interaction. What's worse is that humans, like all other animals, are predisposed to engage in group think. A major reason why you will find more white kids saying "Ni**ger" than black or Latino kids saying "peckerwood....honky...." or "gringo" is that the majority of Xbox 360 owners are in fact white. Remember, I'm white, so I can spell out the entirety of peckerwood, honky, and gringo. Assuming that white people tend to be more racist than black people because of this is a slippery slope, a fallacy.
I hope that was an adequate answer?
YourChaosIsntMe
What are your thoughts on stereotyping? By judging the race, behavior, and clothes of a person, does that make a person a racist? I mean, you would not expect a group of people dressed like gang-bangers to actually be gang-bangers? You would be expecting a certain reaction to your presence. Forcing people to eliminate their defence mechacnism would be dentramental to their well being, wouldn't it?
[QUOTE="YourChaosIsntMe"]People espouse racist views online because, in short, anonymity bars others from retaliating.
Secondly, people (ranging from children to adults) emulate or validate this behaviour for a number of reasons, most of which are rather complex. For instance, a general study in race relations through Culutural Anthropology (with reference to Pyschology) will provide information on WHY the majority of these people are either of European or African descent (hahaha! so politically correct....). Our collective cultural or national history, regardless of whatever "liberal" or "P.C." ideologies or status quos have been adopted, still informs what could be called "race relations." While the integration of various ethnicities and cultures within the greater dominant culture can contribute to multi-cultural unity, compassion, or understanding, it can also have the opposite effect. Also, there are other factors that contribute to parochial perspectives on "race" such as family history, region of origin, and socio-economic status. Furthermore, while children and the unintelligent comprise the majority of this group, there are exceptions, especially in the world of online interaction. What's worse is that humans, like all other animals, are predisposed to engage in group think. A major reason why you will find more white kids saying "Ni**ger" than black or Latino kids saying "peckerwood....honky...." or "gringo" is that the majority of Xbox 360 owners are in fact white. Remember, I'm white, so I can spell out the entirety of peckerwood, honky, and gringo. Assuming that white people tend to be more racist than black people because of this is a slippery slope, a fallacy.
I hope that was an adequate answer?
KreepLX
What are your thoughts on stereotyping? By judging the race, behavior, and clothes of a person, does that make a person a racist? I mean, you would not expect a group of people dressed like gang-bangers to actually be gang-bangers? You would be expecting a certain reaction to your presence. Forcing people to eliminate their defence mechacnism would be dentramental to their well being, wouldn't it?
By definition judging their race or by their race would make that person a racist, wouldn't it? Or do you mean judging what their race may be over Live based upon their behavior and vocabulary? I don't believe judging a person by their behavior, attire, mannerisms, or cultural identity is explicitly racist, and is quite natural for the very reason that you stated (defense mechanisms through cultural, subcultural, or countercultural identity). The individual judging is viewing the situation from his/her cultural subjectivity while he/she (or they) being judged reacts in a manner consistent with their cultural subjectivity. This, in my opinion, is one of the factors that contribute to the complexity of "race relations." We can probably assume that many individuals that contribute to racism, ethnocentrism, sexism, etc. are not specifically bigots consciously or unconsciously. As a comparable example, how many men do you think are consciously contributing to sexism and heterosexism on a daily basis? How many do so in spite? All of this serves to underline the detrimental effect that group think has on society at large. I suppose a consideration like that is the essence of why academics only go so far; sometimes the human condition craps on the virtuous possibilities. Even if it is a justifiable defense mechanism, such noticeable (and arbitrary) cultural divisions within a society are clearly detrimental. While some racists (either Marcus Garvey or Robert Byrd, take your pick) assert(ed) a belief in seperation and even expatriation (forced or voluntary) as a solution to the issues of racism and its influencing factors, that's such a parochial viewpoint that it doesn't even warrant consideration as a valid option. So how do we alleviate cultural divisions entirely? How do we address the ever-increasing minority that express racist views in our "modern" culture (whether they be from Latino, African, Asian, Native, or European Americans..or other groups in another nation/state/region, I just noticed that you spelled defense with a "c," so you're obviously from the UK/Ireland...)?
[QUOTE="adders99"][QUOTE="usule"][QUOTE="steveo2000"]this is why im so looking forward to the 8 person party chat. I will never have to listen to anyone not on my friends list ever again.Danold
Agreed! can't wait for the 8 person party chat...
will you be able to use the party chat in game though?
I dont believe so, the whole point there was only 2 person chat is so people could not cheat in clan matches. such as one player dies and informs the team where every other enemy is. For that reason I think part chat is limited to dashboard and arcade games, otherwise it would effect MLG greatly.
Ahh....I can see your point...but AIM would do the same thing or just have a conference call with your clan...If you are going to cheat in a match.....you will find a way....
[QUOTE="Danold"][QUOTE="adders99"][QUOTE="usule"][QUOTE="steveo2000"]this is why im so looking forward to the 8 person party chat. I will never have to listen to anyone not on my friends list ever again.masiisam
Agreed! can't wait for the 8 person party chat...
will you be able to use the party chat in game though?
I dont believe so, the whole point there was only 2 person chat is so people could not cheat in clan matches. such as one player dies and informs the team where every other enemy is. For that reason I think part chat is limited to dashboard and arcade games, otherwise it would effect MLG greatly.
Ahh....I can see your point...but AIM would do the same thing or just have a conference call with your clan...If you are going to cheat in a match.....you will find a way....
exactly, if you want to cheat you can cheat. And you can 2way chat with ppl on ur team in a matter of seconds, or be chatting the whole way through and only run with that guy ur chatting with. BUT allowing 8 person chat would make it much easier, the people who wouldnt go through the hassle of communicating otherwise would most likely do so with a group chat function on xbl during a game. It would increase the problem IMO
[QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="Danold"][QUOTE="adders99"][QUOTE="usule"][QUOTE="steveo2000"]this is why im so looking forward to the 8 person party chat. I will never have to listen to anyone not on my friends list ever again.Gokuja
Agreed! can't wait for the 8 person party chat...
will you be able to use the party chat in game though?
I dont believe so, the whole point there was only 2 person chat is so people could not cheat in clan matches. such as one player dies and informs the team where every other enemy is. For that reason I think part chat is limited to dashboard and arcade games, otherwise it would effect MLG greatly.
Ahh....I can see your point...but AIM would do the same thing or just have a conference call with your clan...If you are going to cheat in a match.....you will find a way....
exactly, if you want to cheat you can cheat. And you can 2way chat with ppl on ur team in a matter of seconds, or be chatting the whole way through and only run with that guy ur chatting with. BUT allowing 8 person chat would make it much easier, the people who wouldnt go through the hassle of communicating otherwise would most likely do so with a group chat function on xbl during a game. It would increase the problem IMO
Believe me I understand what you are saying...but the point is moot....The tech we are talking about is AIM and conference calling...All phones have the ability and who does not have AIM..
It comes down to a moral issue...and people that will cheat will do so....and the people that will not cheat are not going to just because of a private chat feature...
The amount of "casual" players far outweigh the players that participate in a MLG event..and the benefit of the feature exceeds the possible event that people would use it to cheat..
In any event I am sure MLG would easily implement a systems to ensure it is not used for cheating..simply by have the ref's assign players numbers and verbally check the players to ensure no one is on a "private" line...
I don't get why so many people on Xbox Live are racist. There was this one guy on there just repeating an offensive word of "black person" and every one thought he was retarded. It's really stupid, and the people who think they are cool are like 8 year olds, or 8 year olds in the body of an older person. I'm not racist and i think racist people are retarded in my opinion.killer_rabbit20
You're correct and as an African American gamer I would like to say that when a person has to bring there real life personal issues into a game then they need psychological help.
^ it was a typo. We're on the internet, after all.Trickshot771
The chances are that it wasn't a typo. You see, Typos usually include letters adjacent to the intended letter. Look at your keyboard. Do you see "s" and "c" next to each other? No? Wow! Maybe you do not know this, but the differences between American English and British English are minute and obscure. In fact, "defence" is the correct spelling, as is "defense." You're not being clever, and neither is the dolt that validated your asinine response.
Danold, the fact that you didn't read the text speaks volumes about yourself. If you had, you would have realized that I wasn't "being clever." Instead, I was relating what I said to a non-American perspective (note that my posts specifically related to race relations in the US). His reply was sophomoric, and your appreciation of his reply is, in kind, sophomoric.
You didn't like my wall of text, and I don't like your simple-minded quips. Go figure.
I don't get why so many people on Xbox Live are racist. There was this one guy on there just repeating an offensive word of "black person" and every one thought he was retarded. It's really stupid, and the people who think they are cool are like 8 year olds, or 8 year olds in the body of an older person. I'm not racist and i think racist people are retarded in my opinion.killer_rabbit20i think i was in that game with you. call of duty 4 match? :lol: i'm sure it happens a lot but thats kind of specific.
[QUOTE="Trickshot771"]^ it was a typo. We're on the internet, after all.YourChaosIsntMe
The chances are that it wasn't a typo. You see, Typos usually include letters adjacent to the intended letter. Look at your keyboard. Do you see "s" and "c" next to each other? No? Wow! Maybe you do not know this, but the differences between American English and British English are minute and obscure. In fact, "defence" is the correct spelling, as is "defense." You're not being clever, and neither is the dolt that validated your asinine response.
Danold, the fact that you didn't read the text speaks volumes about yourself. If you had, you would have realized that I wasn't "being clever." Instead, I was relating what I said to a non-American perspective (note that my posts specifically related to race relations in the US). His reply was sophomoric, and your appreciation of his reply is, in kind, sophomoric.
You didn't like my wall of text, and I don't like your simple-minded quips. Go figure.
:lol: I dont know you so theres no point in being offended by anything you said. But obviously what I had to say took a toll on you because you decided to break down your wall, and I like to think you did that just for me. Either way you're so full of yourself that nobody will take you seriously even the people who take the time to read what you have to say, because its not important or informative, just a way for you to feel good about yourself...
Using big words doesnt make you any cooler by the way, especially on a forum. Like Trickshot said before, we're on the internet afterall.
[QUOTE="YourChaosIsntMe"][QUOTE="Trickshot771"]^ it was a typo. We're on the internet, after all.Danold
The chances are that it wasn't a typo. You see, Typos usually include letters adjacent to the intended letter. Look at your keyboard. Do you see "s" and "c" next to each other? No? Wow! Maybe you do not know this, but the differences between American English and British English are minute and obscure. In fact, "defence" is the correct spelling, as is "defense." You're not being clever, and neither is the dolt that validated your asinine response.
Danold, the fact that you didn't read the text speaks volumes about yourself. If you had, you would have realized that I wasn't "being clever." Instead, I was relating what I said to a non-American perspective (note that my posts specifically related to race relations in the US). His reply was sophomoric, and your appreciation of his reply is, in kind, sophomoric.
You didn't like my wall of text, and I don't like your simple-minded quips. Go figure.
:lol: I dont know you so theres no point in being offended by anything you said. But obviously what I had to say took a toll on you because you decided to break down your wall, and I like to think you did that just for me. Either way you're so full of yourself that nobody will take you seriously even the people who take the time to read what you have to say, because its not important or informative, just a way for you to feel good about yourself...
Using big words doesnt make you any cooler by the way, especially on a forum. Like Trickshot said before, we're on the internet afterall.
I didn't know that I sounded hurt? I thought I was just being pompous?
Being irreverent and crass doesn't make you any cooler, by the way, though it does in the minds of people such as Swampfox on forums, so I guess that's working out for you. You see, using big words just means that I have an accomplished diction, and using phrases like "big words" just makes you a moron. I did seem to touch a nerve, because that was a bit rambling for you, wasn't it? Also, I have an extensive education in Psychology, so don't convince yourself that you're fooling me. Simply replying to my response implies that I offended you (my bet is on your mirror self-image and ego). No one will take you seriously until you stop using run-on sentences, well...no one with any merit will. I've actually had numerous people express appreciation for my views, and even suggest that I blog and tag many of the topics I post on. You're also very astute in your appraisal of my personality; I am pompous and arrogant. So why even state that something you said "took a toll?" Usually, people with egos as big as mine are untouchable, at least in our own minds. It's hard to hurt the feelings of a megalomaniac. You're misinterpreting wanton spite as an emotional response, which is a grand mistake on your part. On the other hand, I don't think I'm misinterpreting your allusions toward indifference. You see, you were anything but indifferent and unaffected by my response. You wouldn't have responded had it been irrelevant to you. I respond to anyone that questions my intelligence, on the other hand, and usually do so without emotion or offense. Why? Because I have a Christ complex.
No Swampfox, inept people don't have the ability to shut me up, in fact, no one does. I simply have responsibilities that bar me from returning and replying in a timely fashion. Excuse me for changing the turbo on my Jetta and getting everything organized for next semester.
P.S. I'm only annoying if what I say goes beyond the scope of your intellectual capacity. Do you expect me to express my ideas in an idiot friendly manner? Should I strive to sound like a simpleton too? I've ALWAYS wanted to be a laymen. Jesus Christ, people are so predictable.
Dude, racism is BAD. Man, considering racism in an academic capacity with greater scope than is common is so annoying. Would that have made me more personable? Black people and white people should like each other dude.
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